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Post Post #3750 (ISO) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:07 am

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In post 3741, Ranger wrote:
In post 3729, Ranger wrote:(I might've lied about one or two things.)
In about 8 hours, I can compile the full list.

The scum conceding got in the way of me having fun. :(

Everything I claimed except being Unique was a lie.

There was no IC, doctor, or chess game. I made it all up.

I did have a day action though!
It did feel like a lie tbh but I knew you weren't scum so I had no choice but to accept it.
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Post Post #3751 (ISO) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:08 am

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GG everyone!
Sorry for cutting your enjoyment short but I knew with certainty I was the last scum, and there were too many clears for me and Abnegation to succeed.
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Post Post #3752 (ISO) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:09 am

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In post 3741, Ranger wrote:
In post 3729, Ranger wrote:(I might've lied about one or two things.)
In about 8 hours, I can compile the full list.

The scum conceding got in the way of me having fun. :(

Everything I claimed except being Unique was a lie.

There was no IC, doctor, or chess game. I made it all up.

I did have a day action though!
Also why did you lie?
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Post Post #3753 (ISO) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:09 am

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No redactions btw.
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Post Post #3754 (ISO) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:10 am

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In post 3741, Ranger wrote:
In post 3729, Ranger wrote:(I might've lied about one or two things.)
In about 8 hours, I can compile the full list.

The scum conceding got in the way of me having fun. :(

Everything I claimed except being Unique was a lie.

There was no IC, doctor, or chess game. I made it all up.

I did have a day action though!
Chess was a bit too complicated/involved of a mechanic for a role. I was starting to suspect you and usesPython of being cult today pfft.
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Post Post #3755 (ISO) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:10 am

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Also I was right that Irchers role was a scum one!
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Post Post #3756 (ISO) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:15 am

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This game was quite fun even if I got a few things rather wrong. I did legitimately start to think there wasn't a cult yesterday.
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Post Post #3757 (ISO) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:18 am

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In post 3751, DragonEater70 wrote: GG everyone!
Sorry for cutting your enjoyment short but I knew with certainty I was the last scum, and there were too many clears for me and Abnegation to succeed.
Ranger not being able to use IC might have shaken things up quite a bit and opened up the poe to just over half of town, but it still would have been a struggle and likely would have required getting a lim on me or making sure there wasn't a lim on Ranger depending on what Ranger's day action was.
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Post Post #3758 (ISO) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:19 am

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In post 3744, usesPython wrote: I find it pretty funny that DE conceded due to POE when half of the "conftown" were lying
Yeah it is pretty funny :lol:
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Post Post #3759 (ISO) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:22 am

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i was also shocked day 1 when rat already deducted i was third party which is why i had to recruit em
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Post Post #3760 (ISO) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:23 am

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In post 3714, usesPython wrote:
In post 3012, Abnegation wrote:
In post 3010, usesPython wrote:
In post 3003, usesPython wrote: I should probably look into this but was Abne TRing Titus/Kirigiri during d1?
Jesus Christ Abnegation reads hella Traitor with her d1 posting
what would be really funny is if the mafia or the masons could recruit the wrong traitor by mistake, but that would break the game lol.
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Yeah I saw that and it made it click right away that she was a double traitor. I couldn't pin down the exact mechanics because Rat apparently thought it would be funny to go along with her and spend the week gaslighting me, their own damn teammate, even it's obviously a terrible idea to let some random person fakeclaim mason.

So I spent the entire damn week screaming both internally and to the apathetic dead thread, trying to work out exactly how Abnegation and Rat had been recruited to a scum team. Trying to figure just how bastardly the setup had to be for the mod to lie and say scum wouldn't be in a masonry when obviously they were, which maybe meant they were culted by DE70 but wouldn't explain why I got killed.

My best guess as far as game balance went was that Abnegation didn't know she was double traitor at first until a mason died, at which point if recruited by both Mafia and mason she corrupted the remaining mason and they both joined the Mafia. And it was just a huge coincidence that she was doing all that traitor signaling to Mafia that you saw and that I died despite there being no reason for me to be targeted.

So my best guess for what was actually going on was that she was Mafia aligned the whole time, and the mod was being quite bastard with the setup and denying it. A bastard game being bastard made more sense than Rat apparently deciding to potentially game throw by allowing a fake mason claim for the lulz.

I was on vacation last week

THIS REALLY MESSED ME UP
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Post Post #3761 (ISO) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:25 am

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ALSO

One thing I am proud of:

Before the whole messed up massclaim thing happened, I apparently reached high tier townread on Ranger's readlist after I was the bottom tier for several pages of D1. I think this was an achievement in itself because I was terrified of being the D1 lim due to a gutfeel.
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Post Post #3762 (ISO) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:25 am

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In post 3759, camelCasedSnivy wrote: i was also shocked day 1 when rat already deducted i was third party which is why i had to recruit em
I'm guessing this failed?
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Post Post #3763 (ISO) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:26 am

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In post 3762, Rautherdir wrote:
In post 3759, camelCasedSnivy wrote: i was also shocked day 1 when rat already deducted i was third party which is why i had to recruit em
I'm guessing this failed?
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Post Post #3764 (ISO) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:26 am

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Post Post #3765 (ISO) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:26 am

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i didnt recruit night 1
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Post Post #3766 (ISO) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:27 am

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In post 3760, Aureal wrote:
In post 3714, usesPython wrote:
In post 3012, Abnegation wrote:
In post 3010, usesPython wrote:
In post 3003, usesPython wrote: I should probably look into this but was Abne TRing Titus/Kirigiri during d1?
Jesus Christ Abnegation reads hella Traitor with her d1 posting
what would be really funny is if the mafia or the masons could recruit the wrong traitor by mistake, but that would break the game lol.
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Yeah I saw that and it made it click right away that she was a double traitor. I couldn't pin down the exact mechanics because Rat apparently thought it would be funny to go along with her and spend the week gaslighting me, their own damn teammate, even it's obviously a terrible idea to let some random person fakeclaim mason.

So I spent the entire damn week screaming both internally and to the apathetic dead thread, trying to work out exactly how Abnegation and Rat had been recruited to a scum team. Trying to figure just how bastardly the setup had to be for the mod to lie and say scum wouldn't be in a masonry when obviously they were, which maybe meant they were culted by DE70 but wouldn't explain why I got killed.

My best guess as far as game balance went was that Abnegation didn't know she was double traitor at first until a mason died, at which point if recruited by both Mafia and mason she corrupted the remaining mason and they both joined the Mafia. And it was just a huge coincidence that she was doing all that traitor signaling to Mafia that you saw and that I died despite there being no reason for me to be targeted.

So my best guess for what was actually going on was that she was Mafia aligned the whole time, and the mod was being quite bastard with the setup and denying it. A bastard game being bastard made more sense than Rat apparently deciding to potentially game throw by allowing a fake mason claim for the lulz.

I was on vacation last week

THIS REALLY MESSED ME UP
Well it WAS fun to fakeclaim mason, let me tell you that.
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Post Post #3767 (ISO) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:28 am

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there were 2.5 scumteams this game
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Post Post #3768 (ISO) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:30 am

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In post 3763, camelCasedSnivy wrote:
In post 3762, Rautherdir wrote:
In post 3759, camelCasedSnivy wrote: i was also shocked day 1 when rat already deducted i was third party which is why i had to recruit em
I'm guessing this failed?
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Ahhh I see. I thought that was happening night one. Night two, yeah, I knew Rat got hit by bus driver at this point since uh. That whole shenanigan at the end of yesterday happened.
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Post Post #3769 (ISO) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:33 am

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gg, no redactions in any nightmare pts.
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Post Post #3770 (ISO) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:34 am

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In post 3763, camelCasedSnivy wrote:
In post 3762, Rautherdir wrote:
In post 3759, camelCasedSnivy wrote: i was also shocked day 1 when rat already deducted i was third party which is why i had to recruit em
I'm guessing this failed?
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Post Post #3771 (ISO) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:34 am

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i tried to recruit abnegation night 3 which wouldve been really funny having access to 3 PTs
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Post Post #3772 (ISO) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:37 am

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Oh, yeah, no redactions from the one nightmare PT I was in.
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Post Post #3773 (ISO) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:37 am

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no redactions in white space either though it was fun to talk to literally nobody
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Post Post #3774 (ISO) » Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:40 am

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In post 3746, camelCasedSnivy wrote: wait i thought i couldnt receruit groupscum ircher never told me they were mafia
A Traitor isn’t considered a living partner for recruitment reasons. The only person unrecruitable when DE/Ircher was alive was DE, because he knows Ircher is mafia too. Ircher doesn’t know DE’s identity, and therefore can be culted with zero repercussions.
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