Weird Dreams Mafia Redux [Finished]

[Abnegation]

hi, i am scum mason.

VOTE: aureal

That definitely sounds like a role which exists and makes total sense and there is nothing strange here at all. Story checks out.

yep, definitely my real role!

[Aureal]

I'm going to have to figure out what this nightmare thing is at some point, aren't I? Sigh.

[Korina]

Fair enough. Last game it didn't matter but I think there was a change in nightmare rules which tbh I haven't looked into thoroughly just yet. Lemmie have a quick look.

HURT: DragonEater
HURT: Python
HURT: Kyogo

This vote is ignored, due to proposals needing at least 5 people to preserve my sanity in making VCs.

@Mod I actually have a question about Nightmare voting: you explain the minimum and maximum of participants, but how are the actual participants chosen? Is there a target number of votes needed and then you participate?

The minimum amount of players needed each night for the Nightmare is five, with the maximum number of participants allowed in the Nightmare being however many players are left alive. The participants are chosen via a vote a la Coalition style, where people submit a list of names, (at least five, up to however many are left alive), and players are allowed to either vote for an existing proposal, or create their own proposal. An example proposal would be:

HURT: Korina, Maruchan, Oclaxian Empire, T-Bone, Vex Vience.

Someone can then either vote those same players, and agree to the proposal, or add their own proposal to the list of proposals. If a player is confirmed in any means, they are not required to be added to future proposals, and the minimum number of players needed to be included in a proposal is reduced by one, to account for the fact out of the five needed players, there is already however many confirmed. An example involving a proposal with a confirmed player in the Nightmare (Korina):

HURT: Maruchan, Oclaxian Empire, T-Bone, Vex Vience

The above is valid, provided one player is already confirmed to run the Nightmare.

[Abnegation]

I'm going to have to figure out what this nightmare thing is at some point, aren't I? Sigh.

i wasn't in the original so i have no clue what's going on mech-wise.

[usesPython]

What's stopping us from adding every living person to the Nightmare every night other than me not wanting to type out everyones names?

Probably nothing, but if I interpret the OP correctly we can only use vig with 5 players in the nightmare. Unless actually it's 5 minimum and we get more powers with more players? In which case vig is OP.

Fair enough, handing out an Innocent Child invention which

As an unmodified passive ability: The moderator will confirm your alignment.

with the Normal Invention is better than a Vig shot though

[DragonEater70]

Fair enough. Last game it didn't matter but I think there was a change in nightmare rules which tbh I haven't looked into thoroughly just yet. Lemmie have a quick look.

HURT: DragonEater
HURT: Python
HURT: Kyogo

This vote is ignored, due to proposals needing at least 5 people to preserve my sanity in making VCs.

@Mod I actually have a question about Nightmare voting: you explain the minimum and maximum of participants, but how are the actual participants chosen? Is there a target number of votes needed and then you participate?

The minimum amount of players needed each night for the Nightmare is five, with the maximum number of participants allowed in the Nightmare being however many players are left alive. The participants are chosen via a vote a la Coalition style, where people submit a list of names, (at least five, up to however many are left alive), and players are allowed to either vote for an existing proposal, or create their own proposal. An example proposal would be:

HURT: Korina, Maruchan, Oclaxian Empire, T-Bone, Vex Vience.

Someone can then either vote those same players, and agree to the proposal, or add their own proposal to the list of proposals. If a player is confirmed in any means, they are not required to be added to future proposals, and the minimum number of players needed to be included in a proposal is reduced by one, to account for the fact out of the five needed players, there is already however many confirmed. An example involving a proposal with a confirmed player in the Nightmare (Korina):

HURT: Maruchan, Oclaxian Empire, T-Bone, Vex Vience

The above is valid, provided one player is already confirmed to run the Nightmare.

Oh okay so it's basically like how it was last game I think. Cool.

[Korina]

What's stopping us from adding every living person to the Nightmare every night other than me not wanting to type out everyones names?

Probably nothing, but if I interpret the OP correctly we can only use vig with 5 players in the nightmare. Unless actually it's 5 minimum and we get more powers with more players? In which case vig is OP.

Fuck, I thought I fixed all the typographical errors in the OP. This will be fixed to say "5 or more players" momentarily.

[Korina]

VC 1.1

WhemeStar (2):

Aureal, Titus

Save the Dragons (1):

usesPython

Aureal (1):

Abnegation

DragonEater70 (0):

biancospino (0):

Ranger (0):

Radical Rat (0):

Enchant (0):

Morning Tweet (0):

Doctor Drew (0):

Titus (0):

Flea the Magician (0):

usesPython (0):

Rauthedir (0):

Kyoko Kirigiri (0):

Merlyn (0):

camelCasedSnivy (0):

Abnegation (0):

sheepsaysmeep (0):

Not Voting (15):

DragonEater70, biancospino, Ranger, Radical Rat, Enchant, Morning Tweet, Doctor Drew, Flea the Magician, Save the Dragons, WhemeStar, Rauthedir, Kyoko Kirigiri, Merlyn, camelCasedSnivy, sheepsaysmeep

With

19

known votes, it takes

10

of them to achieve a majority.

Deadline is in:

(expired on 2023-07-15 11:00:00)

Moderator Notes:

- Flea The Magician, Enchant, and Morning Tweet have (expired on 2023-07-02 23:00:00) to confirm or be replaced.
- Titus is V/LA from July 6th, 2023 till July 7th, 2023.

Nightmare

usesPython's proposal: [usesPython, Doctor Drew, Aureal, Enchant, Merlyn] (1):

usesPython

With

19

known votes, it takes

10

of them to achieve a majority.
Nobody is confirmed to run the Nightmare.

Spoiler: Pronouns

Pronoun Key

Later

[DragonEater70]

I'm going to have to figure out what this nightmare thing is at some point, aren't I? Sigh.

i wasn't in the original so i have no clue what's going on mech-wise.

Um okay now that mod clarified I think I can give an ELI5 style explanation (since I played last game):
Every day we nominate players which we trust to run the "nightmare". The nightmare is basically a PT that has extra powers, and lasts for one night. So for example, they can choose to collectively vig someone, or to grant a one-shot invention to someone.
The Nightmare PT is only open for one night though, and then we get a new vote the following day for which players we want on it.

[DragonEater70]

What's stopping us from adding every living person to the Nightmare every night other than me not wanting to type out everyones names?

Probably nothing, but if I interpret the OP correctly we can only use vig with 5 players in the nightmare. Unless actually it's 5 minimum and we get more powers with more players? In which case vig is OP.

Fuck, I thought I fixed all the typographical errors in the OP. This will be fixed to say "5 or more players" momentarily.

ty!

[Abnegation]

I'm going to have to figure out what this nightmare thing is at some point, aren't I? Sigh.

i wasn't in the original so i have no clue what's going on mech-wise.

Um okay now that mod clarified I think I can give an ELI5 style explanation (since I played last game):
Every day we nominate players which we trust to run the "nightmare". The nightmare is basically a PT that has extra powers, and lasts for one night. So for example, they can choose to collectively vig someone, or to grant a one-shot invention to someone.
The Nightmare PT is only open for one night though, and then we get a new vote the following day for which players we want on it.

oh ok, that makes sense. thanks!

[Save The Dragons]

I'm a bit bad with mech so i'm fine with whatever. I'd like to run the nightmare personally but am not going to sweat it if i'm not in it

[DragonEater70]

I keep trying to post something about mech and keep getting ninja'd so I just gave up. Let's do something game advancing.

There's not much right now but I am getting town vibes from Aureal, and slight townleans from Python and Titus. Not so much on std and Abnegation. I'm still trying to understand Abnegation's claim though.
VOTE: Abnegation
Do you wanna explain the rationale behind the claim?

[DragonEater70]

I keep trying to post something about mech and keep getting ninja'd so I just gave up. Let's do something game advancing.

There's not much right now but I am getting town vibes from Aureal, and slight townleans from Python and Titus. Not so much on std and Abnegation,

though I haven't seen anything really scummy from them either. Unless you count that weird claim from Abnegation. Still trying to understand that.

VOTE: Abnegation
Do you wanna explain the rationale behind the claim?

EBWOP

[Save The Dragons]

my guess is it's a joke

[Abnegation]

lol you have reads? how does anyone have reads at this point?
why would you assume there is a rationale behind my claim? what reason do you have to think that?

[usesPython]

my guess is it's a joke

If you ask a scum mason if they're a scum mason they have to tell you, it's like the law

[Abnegation]

my guess is it's a joke

If you ask a scum mason if they're a scum mason they have to tell you, it's like the law

yeah exactly, i'm just a law-abiding scum mason.

[DragonEater70]

lol you have reads? how does anyone have reads at this point?
why would you assume there is a rationale behind my claim? what reason do you have to think that?

I dunno, I just saw your post and started working me old brain very hard trying to figure out if it's a real claim or a softclaim or what. But I guess the simplest explanation is it's just a random page 1 claim, I guess.
And yeah I don't have SOLID READS, but I do have vibes. And if we don't start voting people and disucssing vibes and reads we're not gonna get anywhere. I will UNVOTE: though, because I really don't have a scum read on you rn. Just null af.
But seriously we need to have some real content and more people here.

[usesPython]

VOTE: WhemeStar

[Abnegation]

lol you have reads? how does anyone have reads at this point?
why would you assume there is a rationale behind my claim? what reason do you have to think that?

I dunno, I just saw your post and started working me old brain very hard trying to figure out if it's a real claim or a softclaim or what. But I guess the simplest explanation is it's just a random page 1 claim, I guess.
And yeah I don't have SOLID READS, but I do have vibes. And if we don't start voting people and disucssing vibes and reads we're not gonna get anywhere. I will UNVOTE: though, because I really don't have a scum read on you rn. Just null af.
But seriously we need to have some real content and more people here.

it's page 2, 6 of us have checked in, might take some time.

[Doctor Drew]

I was in the middle of pushing Doctor Drew when suddenly D1 was ended fue to scum powers, and then the game was compromised D2.
So now I finally get to VOTE: Doctor Drew

This is a scum claim, I was town in the OG game.

But you will be dealt with later.

VOTE: python

Kill them before someone brings up mech talk and maths.

[DragonEater70]

my guess is it's a joke

If you ask a scum mason if they're a scum mason they have to tell you, it's like the law

yeah exactly, i'm just a law-abiding scum mason.

Okay you can be town too. I guess scum just hasn't posted yet.

HURT: DragonEater
HURT: Python
HURT: Abnegation
HURT: Aureal
HURT: Titus

pedit: I know you were town, I would've RVS voted Empathice who was scum but they are not here so I had to go for you

[DragonEater70]

In all seriousness, I'm actually looking forward to play with you and I think you have good reads (or at least good townreads) probably.

[usesPython]

I was in the middle of pushing Doctor Drew when suddenly D1 was ended fue to scum powers, and then the game was compromised D2.
So now I finally get to VOTE: Doctor Drew

This is a scum claim, I was town in the OG game.

But you will be dealt with later.

VOTE: python

Kill them before someone brings up mech talk and maths.

You're too late, we already meched on why giving Innocent Child inventions with the Normal Invention is optimal