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Post Post #0 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:06 am

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This is a discussion topic for Normal Idea Mafia, so that we can organize and clean up the thread in preparation for it being run.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:19 am

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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:09 pm

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Post 47 is ambiguous, unsure if the Miller part of that role is Night-Specific or not.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2023 8:21 pm

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In post 2, TemporalLich wrote: Post 47 is ambiguous, unsure if the Miller part of that role is Night-Specific or not.
If the Miller part was night specific then it'd be
Town One-shot Loyal Fruit Vendor Night Nine Vigilante Night Nine Miller
wouldn't it?
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:02 pm

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In post 3, usesPython wrote:
In post 2, TemporalLich wrote: Post 47 is ambiguous, unsure if the Miller part of that role is Night-Specific or not.
If the Miller part was night specific then it'd be
Town One-shot Loyal Fruit Vendor Night Nine Vigilante Night Nine Miller
wouldn't it?
yeah, but the lack of ability text would make the role be either interpreted as a
Town One-shot Loyal Fruit Vendor Night Nine Vigilante Night Nine Miller
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Town Miller One-shot Loyal Fruit Vendor Night Nine Vigilante
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:11 pm

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I'd interpret it as
Town Miller One-shot Loyal Fruit Vendor Night Nine Vigilante


Miller is listed as a role on the Normal Game page and modifiers always precede the role they're referring to, since there's no modifier preceding Miller in
Town One-shot Loyal Fruit Vendor Night Nine Vigilante Miller
then the Miller role is unmodified
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Fri Jul 14, 2023 8:01 am

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yup that's how I intended it: Town Miller One-shot Loyal Fruit Vendor Night-Nine Vigilante

shoulda put Miller at the start rather than the end

Miller + One-shot loyal fruit vendor + Night-nine vigilante
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Fri Jul 14, 2023 8:08 am

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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:50 am

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I will get this into signups as soon as we feel that any potential issues have been sorted out.

, , and are problematic, as outlined in this post, so changes will need to be made to those.
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Fri Jul 14, 2023 4:15 pm

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Earl is going to be outraged
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:58 am

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me when the werewolf mega-enabler is technically a normal role but not earl :(
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2023 4:12 am

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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2023 3:33 pm

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Is anyone going to be upset with me if I actually edit posts to errata the problematic roles?
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2023 3:37 pm

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In post 12, Cook wrote: Is anyone going to be upset with me if I actually edit posts to errata the problematic roles?
Personally, I wouldn't be.
I don't know if this addresses the concern, but if you wanted, you could leave a note saying what the post originally was.
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2023 3:44 pm

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Town Earl -> Town Night 50 Visitor
Werewolf JOAT (with shots of a Finder for every unmodified Normal role) -> Werewolf JOAT (with shots of a Finder for every role in this thread (i will go through and actually make this list))
Town Combined Multitasking Night-one Role Cop Night-two Vanilla Cop One-shot Complex Vigilante Indecisive Night-two Night-three Doctor -> Town Multitasking N1 Role Cop N2 Combined Complex Checker Vigilante N2 N3 Doctor
TMN1RCN2CVC1SCVN2N3IDWelcome! You are a
Town Multitasking N1 Role Cop N2 Combined Complex Checker Vigilante N2 N3 Indecisive Doctor.


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On Night One and Night One only, you may send me the name of a player prefixed by
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. Assuming no interference with your action, you will learn your target's role (but not alignment).
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. Assuming no interference with your action, you will learn if you successfully targeted your target, and attempt to kill them. Your ability only will succeed if it is not interfered with and if it targets someone who has a power role (non-Vanilla).
On Night Two and Night Three, you may also send me the name of a player prefixed by
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2023 3:59 pm

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I would have preferred
Town Night 50 Friendly Neighbor
for
Town Earl
if you wanted the "Normal for Town only" variant of Named Townie.

then again, night 50 visitor is good at approximating the standard version of Named Townie (a role with no effect).
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Sun Jul 16, 2023 4:17 pm

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The game is now in queue, but likely won't go into signups for a bit. I'm accepting pre-ins though.
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Tue Jul 25, 2023 8:10 am

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The game is now in signups in the Open Queue!
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Thu Sep 14, 2023 1:55 pm

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I think I like this form of NIM better than the OG edition, which was just a completely random setup with normal roles and modifiers
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:57 am

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Any chance for more role slots opening in the future?
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 9:09 am

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if you do then rerun setup with one confirmed VT since thats required in every normal game
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:07 am

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In post 20, camelCasedSnivy wrote: if you do then rerun setup with one confirmed VT since thats required in every normal game
This is a good idea. Maybe even multiple confirmed VTs, given how townsided it was last game.
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:18 am

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i'm for this
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:47 am

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In post 21, Alianna wrote:
In post 20, camelCasedSnivy wrote: if you do then rerun setup with one confirmed VT since thats required in every normal game
This is a good idea. Maybe even multiple confirmed VTs, given how townsided it was last game.
I feel like last game was pretty winnable for non-Town (though definitely an uphill battle), with a little better rng and a worse town it would have been a lot closer than it ended up being
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Fri Sep 22, 2023 5:34 am

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I agree with python

But I mainly want somewhere to post my

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