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[Aisa]

Sweett

[Radical Rat]

Votecount 6.3

With

4

alive, it takes

3

to hammer

votes

Firebringer (3)

HAMMER

:

NorwegianboyEE, Aisa, Titus

Aisa (1):

Firebringer

notes

• The combined mod ISO is here.

Day Five ends in (expired on 2023-08-31 09:20:00)

[Radical Rat]

Firebringer has been hammered! He was...

Mafia Miller Enabler!

Spoiler: Role PM

Mafia Miller Enabler

Welcome Firebringer! You are a

Mafia Miller Enabler!

You are aligned with the Mafia, and win when all threats to the Mafia are dead, or nothing can prevent this.
Your teammates are [REDACTED], and you may speak with them here at any point while you are alive.
Each night, one living member of the Mafia may attempt to kill another living player.
When you die, the Miller role will cease to function for all applicable players.
Please confirm your role by replying to this PM with your role name and alignment.

[Radical Rat]

All members of the Mafia have been eliminated! The game ends in a victory for the

Town!

Spoiler: Remaining roles

Spoiler: Aisa

Town Miller

Welcome Aisa! You are a

Town Miller!

You are aligned with the Town, and win when all members of the Mafia have been eliminated.
Your powers are your voice and your vote.
You will appear to be aligned with the Mafia when investigated.
Please confirm your role by replying to this PM with your role name and alignment.

Spoiler: NorwegianboyEE

Town Backup Cop

Welcome NorwegianboyEE! You are a

Town Backup Cop!

You are aligned with the Town, and win when all members of the Mafia have been eliminated.
If a Cop dies, you will gain the ability to target one living player each night and learn their alignment.
Please confirm your role by replying to this PM with your role name and alignment.

Spoiler: Titus

Vanilla Townie

Welcome Titus! You are a

Vanilla Townie!

You are aligned with the Town, and win when all members of the Mafia have been eliminated.
Your powers are your voice, and your vote.
Please confirm your role by replying to this PM with your role name and alignment.

[Radical Rat]

I'll release the PTs in 24 hours, send in redactions if you want 'em

[Hu Tao]

Yay~ Norwee we make a good team. Who did you target as cop?

[Radical Rat]

Thank you everyone for joining me for my first game modding!

Especially huge thanks to biancospino for keeping up with things and making sure the game kept running smoothly when I wasn't able to, things would have been way rougher without her.

[Radical Rat]

Regarding the setup, the "intended vision" was for scum to hide within the Millers, with the focus being on strong day play to figure out who in the massive pile of Millers was lying, since the Cop wouldn't be able to directly find scum at night. The Miller Enabler role was supposed to create a high-value scum member that the team would be reluctant to bus, and if found successfully would reward the Town by upgrading the Cop. Backup Cop existed to prevent Town getting screwed over with an early Cop kill, though Firebringer's fakeclaim is interesting because an earlier version of the setup did have a Bodyguard instead of a Backup Cop. The Informed was indeed that four Millers existed, and was added at the behest of the reviewers, who believed scum needed that information for the option to claim Miller early instead of only realizing there were enough to hide in after the Town claims.

However, none of that ended up happening, and it was the night play that ended up mattering more than anything else here. Scum shooting sheep instead of bob was a huge turning point, and then the no-kill gambit basically sealed their fate by allowing Norwee to get a free check off. It was very interesting to watch happen, and I do appreciate Firebringer sticking it out to the end.

[Alisae]

Very cool setup my guy!
Sorry I rep’d out.

Good win Norwee

[bob3141]

suprised scum didnt realise the danger of a second town pr. even if they didnt know if Hu tao or norw was the last town pr or what role that was

[sheepsaysmeep]

gg

[Alisae]

Fire never shoots Norwee lol

[Sakura Hana]

I haven't died N1 in a long time, why did i die.

[Firebringer]

I haven't died N1 in a long time, why did i die.

you were never getting mislimmed

[Firebringer]

Fire never shoots Norwee lol

True
even when its advantageous like taking hu to end game when she isn't playing or doing anything was probably smarter, but then i have to be like 'yeah i didn't guard norwee'. Or you know lie and say for a third time there was a failed BG.

Honestly after my second failed bg i should have been instant elimmed. The plan was to kill me after we killed bob but the game made a wild shift onto Nurse.

[Firebringer]

Didn't like the setup, especially the part where its heavily encouraging us to fake millers. Which I saw early on but we decided against it, it was either immediately do it or never try it and by time we actually all talked about there was like 2 miller claims already on the board and the hiding effect isn't worth it imo.

Especially if our hiding miller flips it nearly confirms all the remaining millers as town which we didn't want at all. I think the issues with this setup are if town treats all millers as town and then having a full cop and backup to check the remaining.

I think it was a bit too townsided with that power, we had negative utility on our side with only benefit was knowing the millers which was useful to us but again theres a risk in hiding in the millers we didn't want.

anyways gg to town.
I think Rat is right that this game was won on pure mechanics instead of day play, and i wish i could have played this last day without a guilty on me to see if i could pull it off, but we will never know

[Aisa]

GG, thanks mods for modding, players for playing.

The setup was interesting. In this run, it did feel like scum's fate was sealed by not claiming miller and not catching the cops in time.

[Aisa]

Norwee being Backup Cop explains some of his flip flopping, which was kinda driving me crazy

[bob3141]

i got the feeling in the dead thread norw was playing with us

[Titus]

This was busted from the get go. Can we stop forcefeeding town victories?

[bob3141]

it wasnt really but there certainly factors that made it townsided that didnt come to much into play. like fire role

with 2 inno the game was easy to solve.

[Alisae]

This was busted from the get go. Can we stop forcefeeding town victories?

welcome to the normal queue

[Alisae]

Jason should have died n1.
He made it very obvious he was informed when it came to his approach on the millers.
Instead Sakura dies N1.

Bob should have died N2.
Jason's D2 start as well as his interactions w/ Norwee at the start of the day made it very obvious he had information.
Instead Sheep dies N2.

[Titus]

Two cops, no roleblockers, no investigatiors

[Alisae]

Two cops, no roleblockers, no investigatiors

The normal queue is townsided because wolves on the website are good and towns are bad.
1 Cop could have been fine. The backup cop (this is my guess) was likely added during review.

But I mean hey towns are bad and not everyone has scumhunting skills so you gotta hand them cops.