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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:20 am

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In post 191, usesPython wrote: I think if Ircher was recruited he either got new abilities or he was originally Traitor
If Ircher was originally Traitor, that means the scumteam only started with two members, since a Traitor would know the scumteam's identities and thus be disqualified from cult recruitment.

I find this difficult to believe in a 19 player game, but it is POSSIBLE, and would mirror the Masonry's setup.
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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:28 am

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For tomorrow's Nightmare, barring any shenanigans, I think giving Python a Friendly Neighbor would be prudent.

Can be used on Ranger, who can reveal as IC, verifying tonight's result and both of your current alignments.

Contingent on both of you surviving anyway.
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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:45 am

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Actually want to make a small amendment.

VOTE: Inquiry: Has Rautherdir ever been able to do any of the following:
  • Play chess with Ranger at night
  • Forcibly place Doctor Drew in the Nightmare day 1
  • Taking an action night 1 that causes the moderator to post
    In post 2388, Korina wrote:
    Last night, I had a dream that Radical Rat had a role that gave them access to a PT!
    at the start of day 2


Just in case something was a one-shot, causing a false negative since Rautherdir wouldn't currently be able to do those things.
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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 2:54 am

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VOTE: UP proposal
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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 3:02 am

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VOTE: Radical Rat's proposal
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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 3:11 am

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In post 202, Radical Rat wrote: Actually want to make a small amendment.

VOTE: Inquiry: Has Rautherdir ever been able to do any of the following:
  • Play chess with Ranger at night
  • Forcibly place Doctor Drew in the Nightmare day 1
  • Taking an action night 1 that causes the moderator to post
    In post 2388, Korina wrote:
    Last night, I had a dream that Radical Rat had a role that gave them access to a PT!
    at the start of day 2


Just in case something was a one-shot, causing a false negative since Rautherdir wouldn't currently be able to do those things.
They're logically identical statements, if any of those actions were from them but 1-shot then they're able to do it on that day/night otherwise it wouldn't have gone through
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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 3:11 am

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whatever though

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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 3:22 am

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In post 200, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 191, usesPython wrote: I think if Ircher was recruited he either got new abilities or he was originally Traitor
If Ircher was originally Traitor, that means the scumteam only started with two members, since a Traitor would know the scumteam's identities and thus be disqualified from cult recruitment.

I find this difficult to believe in a 19 player game, but it is POSSIBLE, and would mirror the Masonry's setup.
Could have sworn someone asked about Traitor recruitment and got a response that it's legal but I can't find it now

@mod can Mafia Traitor get Cult'd while they know the identity of a living Mafia member?
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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 4:11 am

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In post 205, usesPython wrote:
In post 202, Radical Rat wrote: Actually want to make a small amendment.

VOTE: Inquiry: Has Rautherdir ever been able to do any of the following:
  • Play chess with Ranger at night
  • Forcibly place Doctor Drew in the Nightmare day 1
  • Taking an action night 1 that causes the moderator to post
    In post 2388, Korina wrote:
    Last night, I had a dream that Radical Rat had a role that gave them access to a PT!
    at the start of day 2


Just in case something was a one-shot, causing a false negative since Rautherdir wouldn't currently be able to do those things.
They're logically identical statements, if any of those actions were from them but 1-shot then they're able to do it on that day/night otherwise it wouldn't have gone through
If the question is "Is X able to do Y" then it requires they currently have the ability to do so. "Has X ever been able to do Y" covers expired abilities.
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 4:12 am

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In post 51, Korina wrote:
In post 48, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 47, Radical Rat wrote: Would a non-recruited Traitor count as living partner?
@Mod
No, all scum must be aware of the identity of at least another living member to be rendered immune from cult.
Being aware of at least another living member is a condition fulfilled by Traitor as long as the main group is alive.
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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 4:15 am

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Oh it was asked in nightmare and not the main thread
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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 4:16 am

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In post 208, Radical Rat wrote: If the question is "Is X able to do Y" then it requires they currently have the ability to do so. "Has X ever been able to do Y" covers expired abilities.
If someone used a 1-shot Publishing TA n1 then by definition they're able to use a 1-shot Publishing TA n1 because by n1 they haven't used it then
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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 4:22 am

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Korina has already established being a stickler for specific phrasing (See Kirigiri getting responses saying how "an invention" could be blocked, despite it being very clear she meant Nightmare Invention, which we know can't be blocked), so I'd rather not leave any ambiguity
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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:21 am

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inb4 we no-invention because people aren't here
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:26 am

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In post 10, Ranger wrote:
In post 2, usesPython wrote:The Publishing Traffic Analyst
I prefer this of those.
In post 15, sheepsaysmeep wrote: there was cult in n1 right
In post 57, Abnegation wrote:
In post 42, Radical Rat wrote: Also, KKFC should NOT target Abnegation. We might have lied about her being one shot.
yeah, we did a fair bit of lying lol.
In post 114, DragonEater70 wrote: Sorry for not checking in earlier, I was enjoying my Saturday till now.
In post 24, usesPython wrote: i.e. Rauth Mafia/Ircher Cult or Rauth Cult/Ircher Mafia
I agree with this.
Quoting everyone for the notifications. Please vote for me
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:32 am

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If it comes down to it, I can move my vote back, though I'd only consider it a true clear for the Chess aspect. If all three of us move, Ranger's vote left behind would be enough to hammer.
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:35 am

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In post 215, Radical Rat wrote: If it comes down to it, I can move my vote back, though I'd only consider it a true clear for the Chess aspect. If all three of us move, Ranger's vote left behind would be enough to hammer.
In post 204, KatyKimFanClub wrote: VOTE: Radical Rat's proposal
KKFC you here for this if necessary?
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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:43 am

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In post 191, usesPython wrote: I think if Ircher was recruited he either got new abilities or he was originally Traitor
Ircher was OG cult if Traitors can't be converted because of the n1 rolecop redirect
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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:54 am

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VOTE: radical rat's inquiry
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i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.

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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 8:17 am

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Yeah, I'm around.
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 8:24 am

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RRs inquiry got hammered so nvm
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Post Post #221 (ISO) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 11:09 am

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Twilight hit so we're claiming Flea's invention:
In post 3209, Flea The Magician wrote: Suppose Id better contribute a bit.

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Post Post #222 (ISO) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 11:12 am

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o7
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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 11:13 am

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Also we Day Motivated Ranger if that ever comes up
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Post Post #224 (ISO) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 11:22 am

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In post 221, usesPython wrote: Twilight hit so we're claiming Flea's invention:
In post 3209, Flea The Magician wrote: Suppose Id better contribute a bit.

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