Open 880 - Normal Idea Mafia - Postgame

[Infinity 324]

i hope that's right >_>

[usesPython]

i hope that's right >_>

it was not

Roleblock Infinity on the off chance DE did a thing

[Doctor Drew]

i hope that's right >_>

it was not

Roleblock Infinity on the off chance DE did a thing

I respect not giving up until the mod confirms it.

[usesPython]

i hope that's right >_>

it was not

Roleblock Infinity on the off chance DE did a thing

I respect not giving up until the mod confirms it.

I mean 19 times out of 20 you're sk here but in that case we can't do anything about it at this point, might as well hedge against sk!infinity

[Doctor Drew]

i hope that's right >_>

it was not

Roleblock Infinity on the off chance DE did a thing

I respect not giving up until the mod confirms it.

I mean 19 times out of 20 you're sk here but in that case we can't do anything about it at this point, might as well hedge against sk!infinity

So you are saying you aren't SK??

[usesPython]

i hope that's right >_>

it was not

Roleblock Infinity on the off chance DE did a thing

I respect not giving up until the mod confirms it.

I mean 19 times out of 20 you're sk here but in that case we can't do anything about it at this point, might as well hedge against sk!infinity

So you are saying you aren't SK??

We're town

[Doctor Drew]

i hope that's right >_>

it was not

Roleblock Infinity on the off chance DE did a thing

I respect not giving up until the mod confirms it.

I mean 19 times out of 20 you're sk here but in that case we can't do anything about it at this point, might as well hedge against sk!infinity

So you are saying you aren't SK??

We're town

I hope this is lol trolling

[Alianna]

5.FINAL

Votecount 5.FINAL

usesPython (EXECUTED): Flavor Leaf, Doctor Drew, Infinity 324
Doctor Drew (1): usesPython

With 4 players alive, it took 3 votes to secure an execution.

[Alianna]

usesPython has been executed. They were a

Multitasking 3-Shot Activated Bulletproof Serial Killer

.

Spoiler: Role PM

usesPython

Welcome, usesPython, to Open 880!

You are a

Multitasking 3-Shot Activated Bulletproof Serial Killer

.

Personal Abilities:

Multitasking - You may use more than one active ability in the same night.
3-Shot Activated Bulletproof - Three times in the game, at night, you may activate your bulletproof ability. You will gain immunity to all kills on nights when you are bulletproof. Your shot will be expended even if no one attempts to kill you.

Factional Abilities:

Factional Kill - Each night, you may target another player. Assuming no interference with your action, the target will die.

Win Condition:

You win if you are the last player alive, or if nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Please confirm by replying with the name of your role.

All non-town players are now dead, meaning the game ends in a town victory. The surviving players are Doctor Drew (

Town Even-Night Gunsmith

), Flavor Leaf (

Town Odd-Night Roleblocker

), and Infinity 324 (

Town 2-Shot Doctor

).

Spoiler: Role PMs

Doctor Drew

Welcome, Doctor Drew, to Open 880!

You are a

Town Even-Night Gunsmith

.

Personal Abilities:

Even-Night Gunsmith - Each even-numbered night, you may target another player. Assuming no interference with your action, you will learn whether your target has a gun.

Spoiler: List of roles with guns

You will receive a positive result on:
- all mafia that are not traitors or doctors
- all werewolves that are not traitors or doctors
- cops and any role with "cop" in the name
- neapolitans
- detectives
- vigilantes
- vengefuls
- other gunsmiths
- backups of roles with guns
- JOATs with any of the listed powers

Factional Abilities:

You have no factional abilities.

Win Condition:

You win if all players not aligned with the town are dead and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Please confirm by replying with the name of your role.

Flavor Leaf

Welcome, Flavor Leaf, to Open 880!

You are a

Town Odd-Night Roleblocker

.

Personal Abilities:

Odd-Night Roleblocker - Each odd-numbered night, you may target another player. Assuming no interference with your action, your target's active abilities will be blocked that night.

Factional Abilities:

You have no factional abilities.

Win Condition:

You win if all players not aligned with the town are dead and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Please confirm by replying with the name of your role.

Infinity 324

Welcome, Infinity 324, to Open 880!

You are a

Town 2-Shot Doctor

.

Personal Abilities:

2-Shot Doctor - Twice in the game, at night, you may target another player. Assuming no interference with your action, your target will be protected from one kill that night.

Factional Abilities:

You have no factional abilities.

Win Condition:

You win if all players not aligned with the town are dead and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Please confirm by replying with the name of your role.

Congratulations to the town of Doctor Drew, Flavor Leaf, DragonEater70, Skygazer, camelCasedSnivy, Yimmy, heipizhu4, Save The Dragons, Infinity 324, and Aureal for winning Open 880!

[Alianna]

Role Assignments

Doctor Drew -

Town Even-Night Gunsmith

biancospino -

Mafia Universal Backup

Flavor Leaf (formerly Morning Tweet) -

Town Odd-Night Roleblocker

DragonEater70 (formerly Invisibility) -

Town Combined Vigilante Loyal Bodyguard

Skygazer -

Town Shield

humaneatingmonkey (formerly Merlyn) -

Mafia Goon

usesPython -

Multitasking 3-Shot Activated Bulletproof Serial Killer

camelCasedSnivy -

Town Loyal Checker

Yimmy (formerly BlueSnakelet, Not_Mafia) -

Town Combined Roleblocker Friendly Neighbour

heipizhu4 -

Town Security Guard

UNOwen -

Mafia Universal Backup

Save The Dragons -

Town Backup Cop

Infinity 324 -

Town 2-Shot Doctor

Aureal -

Town 1-Shot Bulletproof Lazy Multitasking Checker Shield

Night 1 Actions

Skygazer uses shield ability on UNOwen.
camelCasedSnivy uses loyal checker ability on UNOwen.
Infinity 324 uses doctor ability on usesPython.
BlueSnakelet uses combined roleblocker friendly neighbour ability on Aureal.
Invisibility takes no action.
Flavor Leaf uses roleblocker ability on camelCasedSnivy.
Aureal uses checker ability on humaneatingmonkey.
Aureal uses shield ability on Invisibility.

UNOwen uses factional kill on Flavor Leaf.

usesPython activates bulletproof ability.
usesPython uses factional kill on Skygazer.

Night 1 Resolution

Skygazer dies.

camelCasedSnivy receives the message: "Your check on UNOwen failed."
Aureal receives the message: "Your check on humaneatingmonkey failed."
Aureal receives the message: "You learn that BlueSnakelet is aligned with the

town

."

Night 2 Actions

Doctor Drew uses gunsmith ability on Save The Dragons.
Invisibility uses combined vigilante loyal bodyguard ability on camelCasedSnivy.
camelCasedSnivy uses loyal checker ability on Invisibility.
BlueSnakelet uses combined roleblocker friendly neighbour ability on Flavor Leaf.
Infinity 324 takes no action.
Aureal uses checker ability on Save The Dragons.
Aureal uses shield ability on Invisibility.

humaneatingmonkey uses factional kill on usesPython.

usesPython activates bulletproof ability.
usesPython uses factional kill on humaneatingmonkey.

Night 2 Resolution

humaneatingmonkey dies.
Aureal dies.

Doctor Drew receives the message: "Your target, Save The Dragons, has a gun."
Flavor Leaf receives the message: “You learn that BlueSnakelet is aligned with the

town

."
camelCasedSnivy receives the message: "Your check on Invisibility succeeded."
Aureal receives the message: “Your check on Save The Dragons succeeded."

Night 3 Actions

Flavor Leaf uses roleblocker ability on biancospino.
DragonEater70 uses combined vigilante loyal bodyguard ability on biancospino.
camelCasedSnivy uses loyal checker ability on Flavor Leaf.
BlueSnakelet used combined roleblocker friendly neighbour action on usesPython.
Infinity 324 uses doctor ability on camelCasedSnivy.
biancospino uses factional kill on Doctor Drew.

usesPython uses factional kill on camelCasedSnivy.

Night 3 Resolution

biancospino dies.

camelCasedSnivy receives the message: “Your check on Flavor Leaf succeeded.”
usesPython receives the message: “You learn that BlueSnakelet is aligned with the

town

.”

Night 4 Actions

Doctor Drew uses gunsmith ability on DragonEater70.
DragonEater70 uses combined vigilante loyal bodyguard action on Infinity 324.
Yimmy uses combined roleblocker friendly neighbour action on Doctor Drew.

usesPython activates bulletproof ability.
usesPython uses factional kill on Yimmy.

Night 4 Resolution

DragonEater70 dies.
Yimmy dies.

Doctor Drew receives the message: "Your investigation on DragonEater70 failed and returned no result."
Doctor Drew receives the message: "You learn that Yimmy is aligned with the

town

."

[Alianna]

Private Topics

Mafia PT
Spectator PT
Mod PT

If you had a notes PT this game, it is up to you what you would like to do with it and you have all the necessary permissions to do it yourself. If you would like to release it, you can do so by clicking the edit button on the OP, scrolling down, setting the topic privacy to Public, and hitting Submit.

[Alianna]

This thread is now open for postgame discussion.

[camelCasedSnivy]

cCS and I are actually doing a pretty decent job at sounding really fabricated lol. That's the kind of convo I'd maybe read as +s/s

thanks for modding alianna wild game

[biancospino]

gg, thanks Alianna!

[usesPython]

gg. I'll get our Notes PT public in a bit, enjoy this until then

[Alianna]

Thanks everyone for playing! Thanks also to Cook and S_S for helping me not botch the game lol.

[usesPython]

Our Notes PT

[Cook]

yeah some of the action resolution was a little rough in spots tbh

but NAR saves the day! that's what i liked about this, since it's all technically normal it all can technically be resolved normally

[Cook]

i'd like to also formally apologize to the mafia for giving them a

vanilla scumteam

in a role madness game

that was a tough setup to come back from

[BlueSnakelet]

My Notes PT.

[Doctor Drew]

Drew considering the sk!infinity world cause we're too town is funny as hell

Python, as I said you almost had me convinced we were being bamboozled by Infinity lol!

Very well played, but Flavor was so locked in to the gut read on me I don't know what you could have done to actually win.

[Alianna]

yeah some of the action resolution was a little rough in spots tbh

Yeah, it's pretty clear if you read the mod PT that I was way in over my head with the mech stuff. The next game I mod will be mountainous lol. I'm going to cringe at myself for advertising, but you guys can join it here if you want to!

but NAR saves the day! that's what i liked about this, since it's all technically normal it all can technically be resolved normally

I actually wonder if things might have gone more smoothly if I'd considered other action resolution systems that might be better-geared for complex setups like this. NAR leaves quite a bit of room for mod discretion in conflicts like the one I was asked about on D4 and I'm not sure I like that. It did make the most sense to use though, since this is

Normal

Idea Mafia.

[Alianna]

i'd like to also formally apologize to the mafia for giving them a

vanilla scumteam

in a role madness game

that was a tough setup to come back from

I second the apology, RNG was definitely not on scum's side this game.

[biancospino]

yeah some of the action resolution was a little rough in spots tbh

Yeah, it's pretty clear if you read the mod PT that I was way in over my head with the mech stuff. The next game I mod will be mountainous lol. I'm going to cringe at myself for advertising, but you guys can join it here if you want to!

but NAR saves the day! that's what i liked about this, since it's all technically normal it all can technically be resolved normally

I actually wonder if things might have gone more smoothly if I'd considered other action resolution systems that might be better-geared for complex setups like this. NAR leaves quite a bit of room for mod discretion in conflicts like the one I was asked about on D4 and I'm not sure I like that. It did make the most sense to use though, since this is

Normal

Idea Mafia.

By a quick glance, it appears that Reasonable Action resolution would indeed resolve the kind of conflicts that happened here.

Thou personally I don't like it too much, it gives some unnatural action resolution imho. For instance if A,B are both combined Vigilante Roleblocker, and they target each other;

• RAR has both of them be blocked;
  
• NAR has one be blocked and die, chosen by some arbitrary tiebreak.

Now the RAR answer needs no tiebreaks, but to me it's a wrong answer, since it means that both are effectively paradoxically roleblocked by a blocked (!) RB action.
Personally I think those sorts of conflicts should be resolves at random, but that's not normal sadly

[biancospino]

i'd like to also formally apologize to the mafia for giving them a

vanilla scumteam

in a role madness game

that was a tough setup to come back from

I second the apology, RNG was definitely not on scum's side this game.

Eh, we inned to play a RNG game we can't be upset when the NRG rolls a crit failure