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Post Post #0 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:50 am

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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:52 am

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Playerlist1. Doctor Drew
2. biancospino
3. JasonWazza
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5. Skygazer
6. Merlyn
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:55 am

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I can't really think of an easy way to randomize the setup. I think I'll just go on random.org and keep rolling numbers (rerolling invalid ones) until all the factions are filled.

(let me know if you know of an easier way to do this)
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:57 am

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We get maf on a 1 and wolves on a 2.

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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:25 am

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10
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mafia
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serial killer
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111
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138
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74
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123
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95
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146
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54
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111
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129
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90
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42
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54
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90
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:25 am

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This also looks stupidly townsided.
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:30 am

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One problem that we didn't notice before. Is meant to be an informed role or a cop? If you want the informed, you need the informed modifier. I don't think we can change it now because it might tip people off, but I can probably fix the issue by adding a clause to the rules that when the name of a role contradicts what is written under it, I will ignore what is written and the role will do what its name says it does. Not a perfect solution, but it's the best I can think of.
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:33 am

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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:35 am

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hmm. is it too late to errata?
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:36 am

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In post 8, Cook wrote: hmm. is it too late to errata?
I'm worried it might be because if someone checks the thread and sees an edit from today, they might correctly assume that there was an error we only caught because we rolled the post.
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:38 am

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you could disguise it by me editing all the errata'd roles since i don't think i actually edited the thread for them
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:40 am

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i'd then post something to the NIM thread saying "in light of a game of this being run, i have updated the roles in the thread that were either not normal or unclear. this is the most recent revision of NIM, and will be used for any games that are run."

that might also count as attempting to influence the game...

hmm. maybe listmod intervention would be helpful
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:40 am

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In post 10, Cook wrote: you could disguise it by me editing all the errata'd roles since i don't think i actually edited the thread for them
Someone could still notice it isn't on the list in the discussion thread though, or you could edit that list and that would be noticeable too, just not as bad because it puts it within 4 roles.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:49 am

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In post 11, Cook wrote: i'd then post something to the NIM thread saying "in light of a game of this being run, i have updated the roles in the thread that were either not normal or unclear. this is the most recent revision of NIM, and will be used for any games that are run."

that might also count as attempting to influence the game...

hmm. maybe listmod intervention would be helpful
It might be. Idk. I don't see a way to actually edit the role to do what you want it to do without giving something away. I could also write the clause the other way and allow edits to the names of roles to match the intended function as written underneath the role.
Either way, you're right that this could count as influencing the game, so I think it may be a good idea for me to reroll the setup after the decision is made.
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:00 am

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yeah. annoying that we didn't catch that earlier, still gonna say probably let S_S know
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:12 am

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In post 14, Cook wrote: yeah. annoying that we didn't catch that earlier, still gonna say probably let S_S know
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:07 pm

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If you haven't sent the role PMs, you should reroll the setup. That seems safest.

I'd also errata that specific post and add a rule covering a mismatch between role name and role description, as Alianna suggested.
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:11 pm

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In post 16, Something_Smart wrote: If you haven't sent the role PMs, you should reroll the setup. That seems safest.

I'd also errata that specific post and add a rule covering a mismatch between role name and role description, as Alianna suggested.
I haven't sent anything out, so yes, I will reroll along with making those changes.
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:19 pm

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In post 14, Cook wrote: yeah. annoying that we didn't catch that earlier, still gonna say probably let S_S know
You just want to change the role to say Mafia Informed Cop, right?
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:24 pm

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yeah that’s good
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:27 pm

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In post 19, Cook wrote: yeah that’s good
I'll make the announcement in thread, you should be good to go and edit that post as well as the other ones that have been errata'd.
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:28 pm

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great, i’ll do that in a few minutes
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:42 pm

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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:55 pm

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Maf on 1, wolves on 2.

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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 3:15 pm

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10
town
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mafia
, 1
serial killer
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113
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