Open 880 - Mafia PT

[humaneatingmonkey]

hey so if unowen has been confirmed scum/nontown after skygazer dies (they wont eliminate aureal first, it's going to be uno), then i should probably counterclaim whatever uno's claiming if no one counterclaims so i can powerwolf until elo and bianco can be our deep wolf

[humaneatingmonkey]

because of this i feel like unowen should make the kill just in case

but a level 2 play is having bianco make the kill because he's the least likely to be targetted by an investigative among all of us.

[humaneatingmonkey]

in the case skygazer targets aureal (unlikely), or isnt a weak role

and also in the case of an investigative anticipating this and double targetting unowen

[biancospino]

heip is dead

Oh. Right. You can see I'm not the brightest

[biancospino]

because of this i feel like unowen should make the kill just in case

but a level 2 play is having bianco make the kill because he's the least likely to be targetted by an investigative among all of us.

If we think uno's going to get guiltied anyway, they should probably just go out to kill. I don't really see an advantage in making me do it tbh

[humaneatingmonkey]

UNOwen kills Flavor Leaf

UNOwen, you have my permission to change it to humaneatingmonkey kills Flavor Leaf if you're iffy.

[biancospino]

in the case skygazer targets aureal (unlikely), or isnt a weak role

and also in the case of an investigative anticipating this and double targetting unowen

Also, the buggest risk is an investigative not realizing this and targeting outside. If I'm caught killing, that would be worse than uno being doubleguiltied, especially since the second guilty doesn't even need to manifest themselves

[humaneatingmonkey]

yes i think the scenario is unlikely anyway

[biancospino]

What is uno claiming?

[humaneatingmonkey]

unowen should probably play to tie themselves up associatively with as many town as possible and if caught, take down at least one pr with them

[UNOwen]

Yeah I’m fine with killing Flavor

[UNOwen]

I don’t totally believe Skygazer’s weak claim but we’ll see

[humaneatingmonkey]

he will probably die and that will probably confirm it

i don't think he's lying, there's no incentive to claim weak investigative on both wagons as town or sk, and end up not dying overnight. unless skygazer is doing some funky clever mindtricks where he claimed weak, but might be the strongest town investiga-protective role, so he can avoid the night kill.

[UNOwen]

Idk if I was a weak investigator I wouldn’t outright claim it - Skygazer can’t have thought he was at risk of getting nk’ed

[humaneatingmonkey]

that's a good push against skygazer's claim

but if i was town, and i was playing lurky, i'd be nervous of being nightkilled

[humaneatingmonkey]

but i agree that skygazer having a different role might be the unlikely solution

it's probably that skygazer is a weak role that dies upon targeting non-town, but isn't an investigative themselves.

Town Weak Roaming Vigilante
Town Compulsive Weak Vigilante
Town Jack-of-All-Trades (Rolecop, Tracker, Weak Hider)

in this case, he needs to soft weak no matter what he needs to do

the good news is i don't think this gameplay is serial killer
or bad news it's the best serial killer strategy ever

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in any case, i think we need a deep wolf and i think I'm an elimination magnet so one of us has to be set up to be shining shimmering town after all of us dies

brainstorm ideas?

[biancospino]

Depends on whether sky dies, but if he does, uno isn't realistically castable in the deepwolf role (and may be dead to boot if sky is a vig)

[humaneatingmonkey]

bianco you're gonna have to step up buddy hahaha

[biancospino]

Yeah. I do know and there is a large chance that I'll fuck that up tbh.

If uno doesn't die, I need to cc whatever they claim

[humaneatingmonkey]

i believe we can win this

we just need to control the narrative

for every post town makes that takes away from that narrative, we have to post double to take them to the narrative that we want -- to an ELo that we can win

!!!

[humaneatingmonkey]

Yeah. I do know and there is a large chance that I'll fuck that up tbh.

If uno doesn't die, I need to cc whatever they claim

i got you buddy, just townpost and then I'll do the gamestate massaging

[biancospino]

Just imagine if the sk knives you. That would be hilarious

[humaneatingmonkey]

i'm not an sk target, fortunately!

[humaneatingmonkey]

none of us are!

[UNOwen]

lol yes, SK shouldn’t trouble us for a while

I agree that bianco is best placed to deep wolf