Open 881 Mod PT

[petapan]

game bread: viewtopic.php?t=91411
scum pt: viewtopic.php?t=91413
mason pt: viewtopic.php?t=91414
dead/spec: viewtopic.php?t=91415

Original Playerlist:

Datisi
Bell
Malakittens
Aristeia
sheepsaysmeep
meowmeow
Shadi1337
yekaterina
Dunnstral
Doctor Drew
superbowl9
The Bulge
Save The Dragons

[petapan]

vanilla townie
vanilla townie
vanilla townie
vanilla townie
vanilla townie
vanilla townie
vanilla townie
town mason
town mason
town mason
mafia goon
mafia goon
mafia goon

i will double randomize this game (randomizing the order of the playerlist and the roles)

[petapan]

There were 13 items in your list. Here they are in random order:

Bell
Shadi1337
Datisi
Save The Dragons
The Bulge
meowmeow
yekaterina
Doctor Drew
superbowl9
Dunnstral
Aristeia
Malakittens
sheepsaysmeep

IP:
Timestamp: 2023-08-12 15:57:21 UTC

[petapan]

There were 13 items in your list. Here they are in random order:

mafia goon
mafia goon
vanilla townie
town mason
vanilla townie
vanilla townie
town mason
vanilla townie
mafia goon
vanilla townie
vanilla townie
vanilla townie
town mason

IP:
Timestamp: 2023-08-12 15:58:24 UTC

[petapan]

datisi has been saved by the double rand

mafia goons:

Bell
Shadi1337
superbowl9

town masons:

Save The Dragons
yekaterina
sheepsaysmeep

vanilla townies

Datisi
The Bulge
meowmeow
Doctor Drew
Dunnstral
Aristeia
Malakittens

[petapan]

dunn is cracking me up this game

[petapan]

meowmeow being ausuka makes sense but i never would have guessed it in a million years

for whatever reason her tone registered completely different to me

[petapan]

meowmeow: my reads are bad
also meowmeow: first two serious votes are on mafia

[petapan]

i wouldn't say scum are playing bad, they're giving a spirited effort, but town is mostly kind of crushing it. if they have a successful vote on D1 I think it's likely to snowball quickly because they'll have several players they can townclear alongside the masons.

[petapan]

yeah town is just on fire

no one is perfect but multiple players have 2/3 scum in their sights and that mean the walls are closing in very quickly. i don't want to say it's unwinnable but scum would need a drastic shift in tactics from their current approach. atp i think sending one player deep via bussing is prrrroooobably their best but? but even then they'd run out of mis-elims. lurkers like mala or dunn are viable but you have masons who are hanging around at the lower end of the post count without getting actually suspected (they can't know this, of course, but it still complicates things significantly)

[petapan]

in this situation, were i calling the shots, i think having the rest of the team go in on on bussing shadi with shadi possibly voting superbowl as the counterwagon would work here - the superbowl wagon is already too large to get much credit for it, but with the push on shadi dying down slightly they can take credit for it and make superbowl look like a potentially scum driven push. shadi i think has no realistic chance of endgaming unfortunately.

[petapan]

realistically it’s what? superbowl9 + malakittens? or shadi1337? or the bulge?

ehhhhh

like not impossible but ehhhhhhhhhhhhh

mayyybe bell?

more likely than she thinks!

[petapan]

opportunity has passed, if they'd started the counterpush on shadi they could have reaped credit from it but town has got their on their own, so...not a lot they can do?

[petapan]

i guess theoretically scum could make an all-out press to kill datisi - i don't know if that's likely to succeed long term but it's better than letting inertia kill one of their own

e: and i check and see that is what bell is going for, so good on him for trying

[petapan]

shockingly it seems to be working here, didn't think it was likely datisi would go over but a big chunk of the town seems very apathetic

[petapan]

hm, maybe not after all

but then i'm not sure anyone is going to try to do anything

2 hours left and i'm not sure what anyone is waiting on

[petapan]

does seem like it'll work, though i wonder if this is a case of winning the battle to lose the war - still datisi wouldn't be killable if he got scum flipped today so today was the only day they could get this mis-elim. how scum plays off this will be critical. i think town will

probably

look into the counterwagons on day 2 and how they play off that will be critical

[petapan]

masons aren't really communicating much at all which isn't yekaterina's fault, it's trying the best it can but teammates aren't even using the PT at all which is pretty poor form on their part

[petapan]

superbowl i think has the right conclusion that they need to start distancing the next day. bell has a relatively good shot at endgaming if he picks up a little towncred and the scumteam is able to narrow down the masons effectively

i have to admit i'm kind of rooting for him here because it'd be really fun to see it - think he's played quite well so far

[petapan]

N1: superbowl is killing the bulge

[petapan]

realizing i probably should have prodded malakittens during night 1 given she might have just totally disappeared. too late to do anything about it though given prod now might be taken as alignment confirming etc. but i don't love potentially having an empty slot for 3 days at day start.

[petapan]

claiming mason as has been discussed in the scum pt is pretty willfully bad - in theory generates readable reactions for mason hunting but always outs you, and people can call bs on it given most of the game will have called you scum at some point

[petapan]

claiming mason as has been discussed in the scum pt is pretty willfully bad - in theory generates readable reactions for mason hunting but always outs you, and people can call bs on it given most of the game will have called you scum at some point

or potentially it enables dunn to somehow big brain gambit??

[petapan]

N2: Bell is killing dunnstral

[petapan]

actually looking very much like a scum win at this point in time unless scum do something absolutely blockheaded like killing malakittens