Micro 1090: Fruit Mafia - Vegetable Chat

[DragonEater70]

if instead you're asking me "do you independently think ari and ausuka are scum", the answer is uhhhh uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

i've been getting scumpings from dragons again for his acting towards me in yeetlo, i guess. like he's inching towards voting me but is ??? about it. but i was townreading him on like d2 for something so it feels wack to just throw that away.

but something about his posting today, like take this post

Like I'm more leaning Datisi/Ari because Ausuka's recent posting has been townier and Datisi's has been less towny, but I am definitely not SURE about it.

Ugh, I'll look at Datisi's ISO tonight and then we'll see what happens.

like this post feels so weird to me. it's just. idk. he has been thinking it's me/ari ever since 1120, at least (i'm not looking back more i cfb) and he especially says ausuka is townie. but ausuka just made that big post about the team being dragon/me, and dragon definitely did see it because he acknowledged it, but the fact that there isn't any... urgency? thought? to talk to ausuka about it? like he posts 1168 but i don't feel... emotion from it? like i don't get the vibe he's trying to convince her that he's town?

it's like i get the vibe he's content with the vote that's going to happen and he's fine just letting it happen

he doesn't seem afraid of ausuka, who if she's town like he think she is will be a massive problem because she's more sure that he's scum than she is me and ari so kinda naturally she'd vote him right? but it's almost like he KNOWS she won't vote him???

like idk am i going insane if this is ausuka/dragon lol lmao kill me but

the post itself is strange enough and gives me bad enough vibes that idk if i can just say dragon is town

This is why I need to read stuff more carefully

Basically Datisi's solve was Dragon/Ausuka, now he knows it isn't true so I feel like his entire scumread on me would collapse, meaning he's open to persuasion. If I play well then he can be convinced.

Now I just need to decide how to play well but tbh I don't have time atm so I will do that laterz.

[DragonEater70]

I feel like this was a game of so many missed opportunities to immediately win it's not even funny

What is funny though is killing the cop invest twice.

[DragonEater70]

KK I will go into that game thread and do a whole bunch of ISO work and conclude that one of Datisi/Ausuka is scum and we'll see what happens.

[DragonEater70]

just one last post before I get back to work:

GOSH, do you know that being alone in the scumchat really really sucks? Like I wanna share my thoughts and strategize but there's no one to answer me. I wish Ari could at least come back before I hammered her so we could have some plan on how to go about this D4.

[DragonEater70]

I'm tempted to lurk it out and just hope that either Datisi or Ausuka gives up and votes the other because apparently "sheeping skitter" / "dragon's EoD was townie" (which is funny cause it was literally the most fake thing I've done all game, compared to my sincere Day 1 EoD which was somehow scummy)

But I also wrote this huge fucking post and I want to post it.

[DragonEater70]

Okay so i actually got around to reading Day 3, in search of Ari's fabled associative's.

To be completely honest, Day 3 sucks. I really hoped the discussion there would be more fruitful to analyze but it's like the most dull, boring Elo I've ever seen.

Anyway:

Also i don't think elements (dragon) and dats are partnered

So i think i'm left with like you/dats ans you/ausuka

Oh, amazing. So the conclusion is that Ari is partnered with one of the Datisi and Ausuka. That really helps me narrow it down

(sorry skitter if I'm being mean, it's just I really hoped to see some compelling arguments for your ari/ausuka solve when going back and I'm just annoyed that I have to figure it out myself)

I think i'm like

Dragon
Dats
Ausuka
Ari

And want to vote one of the latter two

If it's dats he's having a Not Great scumgame for him which tbf happens

why don't you vote out Ausuka and investigate me then

I am not sure why I decided to quote this post by Ari specifically, it's probably the worst example of this, but anyhow Ari on Day 3 feels to me like she's in anti-spew mode and this post for instance might look at first glance as a desperate scum meneavuer (I know how to spell lol) trying to misyeet town, but I think it'd make more sense for scum!Ari to do it as a way to distance since she already knew that she would be the lim.

Dats if skitter decides to vote me will you please hammer me

I kinda think this spews Datisi town and tbh the more I've been thinking about it the more I'm happy with this solve.
Like I may be stupid or smth and I'm too tired right now for my brain to fully make sense (I literally called Ausuka "Ari" while typing this post), but I do think that the same thing that happened with me (where 2 scum and one town wanted me yeeted) was basically what happened to Datisi at some point and in order to now spew Datisi town she had to change her read to scumread her partner (

Ari

Ausuka).

Also the town vibes from Datisi's Day 2 are too strong and while I still think his Day 3 was scummy, I can't deny that his explanation of the town motivation for these scummy actions makes sense to me.

i guess it's hypocritical of me to shit on dragons for not caring about ausuka possibly voting him when it was looking likely i was getting voted today for a while and i never actually like, cared about it that much

Thanks for acknowledging this because uhhh I don't even remember what happened but yeah I didn't really care about it

Also RE leaning you/ari and then saying it again, the thing was I initially (around 1120 as you mentioned) said it was you and ari simply after reading Ausuka ISO and finding some townie things in it, which did sway me from absolute scumreading her, but I didn't actually get to reading and evaluating you individually so it was more like PoE sort of thing, then the other post (1170) was after actually reading your Day 3 posts in depth which like did sound scummy to me, but I guess if i compare it to your entire ISO and to the fact that both me and Skitter agree that Ari/Ausuka makes sense as a solve (and I know I said Ausuka was townie but again, it was more townie than before which made me doubt myself, I in now way saw her as omega townie or something)

Yeah

I think ari/ausuka make sense

It explains the miller thing which is super unlikely
Why ari didnt push her over it
I never tr either of them

And honestly like you're saying it explains why marci is dead
I'm assuming they thoyght i'd vote you
Dragons as limbait is interesting tho b/c i've been townreading him all game idj

And this is also probably true cause like

Ari/Ausuka kinda explains everything. It definitely explains how we wound up with these 2 mislims (cause I felt they did a good job kinda sneaking under the radar Day 1 and 2), it explains why they had strong mutual TR all game that turned into a mutual push in Elo (distancing), and though I am not 100% sure it fully explains why skitter was left alive in f5, I honestly can't think of a better explanation than "they wanted skitter to vote Datisi", so I guess that's the reason? Like it kinda sounds ridiculous, but as someone said (I think it was skitter? maybe Ausuka), it's not like a different scumteam would suddenly make you go "ohhh I totally see why they killed marci".

Shrug not really sure what to say here if skitter thinks I have done literally nothing towny the entire game

I think Ari's pivot to like actually scumreading me when skitter goes in that direction is scum probably. Whatever I can't even say I'm sure who the scumteam is here. I think it could realistically be any of the three teams. I guess I could vote Ari? Not really sure what else I can say

Idk Ausuka, can you like point out townie things you did do this game other than talking about your marci dream?

[DragonEater70]

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Okay so i actually got around to reading Day 3, in search of Ari's fabled associative's.

To be completely honest, Day 3 sucks. I really hoped the discussion there would be more fruitful to analyze but it's like the most dull, boring Elo I've ever seen. 

Anyway:

[quote=skitter30 post_id=13909214 time=1694519815 user_id=29653]
Also i don't think elements (dragon) and dats are partnered

So i think i'm left with like you/dats ans you/ausuka
[/quote]

Oh, amazing. So the conclusion is that Ari is partnered with one of the Datisi and Ausuka. That really helps me narrow it down :? 

[strike](sorry skitter if I'm being mean, it's just I really hoped to see some compelling arguments for your ari/ausuka solve when going back and I'm just annoyed that I have to figure it out myself)[/strike]

[quote=Aristeia post_id=13909227 time=1694521122 user_id=35974]
[quote=skitter30 post_id=13909225 post_num=1245 time=1694520741 user_id=29653]
I think i'm like

Dragon
Dats
Ausuka
Ari 

And want to vote one of the latter two

If it's dats he's having a Not Great scumgame for him which tbf happens
[/quote]

why don't you vote out Ausuka and investigate me then
[/quote]

I am not sure why I decided to quote this post by Ari specifically, it's probably the worst example of this, but anyhow Ari on Day 3 feels to me like she's in anti-spew mode and this post for instance might look at first glance as a desperate scum meneavuer (I know how to spell lol) trying to misyeet town, but I think it'd make more sense for scum!Ari to do it as a way to distance since she already knew that she would be the lim.

[quote=Aristeia post_id=13909247 time=1694521711 user_id=35974]
Dats if skitter decides to vote me will you please hammer me
[/quote]
I kinda think this spews Datisi town and tbh the more I've been thinking about it the more I'm happy with this solve. 
Like I may be stupid or smth and I'm too tired right now for my brain to fully make sense (I literally called Ausuka "Ari" while typing this post), but I do think that the same thing that happened with me (where 2 scum and one town wanted me yeeted) was basically what happened to Datisi at some point and in order to now spew Datisi town she had to change her read to scumread her partner ([strike]Ari[/strike] Ausuka).

Also the town vibes from Datisi's Day 2 are too strong and while I still think his Day 3 was scummy, I can't deny that his explanation of the town motivation for these scummy actions makes sense to me.

[quote=Datisi post_id=13909250 time=1694522307 user_id=32624]
i guess it's hypocritical of me to shit on dragons for not caring about ausuka possibly voting him when it was looking likely i was getting voted today for a while and i never actually like, cared about it that much
[/quote]

Thanks for acknowledging this because uhhh I don't even remember what happened but yeah I didn't really care about it

Also RE leaning you/ari and then saying it again, the thing was I initially (around 1120 as you mentioned) said it was you and ari simply after reading Ausuka ISO and finding some townie things in it, which did sway me from absolute scumreading her, but I didn't actually get to reading and evaluating you individually so it was more like PoE sort of thing, then the other post (1170) was after actually reading your Day 3 posts in depth which like did sound scummy to me, but I guess if i compare it to your entire ISO and to the fact that both me and Skitter agree that Ari/Ausuka makes sense as a solve (and I know I said Ausuka was townie but again, it was more townie than before which made me doubt myself, I in now way saw her as omega townie or something)  

[quote=skitter30 post_id=13909251 time=1694522550 user_id=29653]
Yeah

I think ari/ausuka make sense 

It explains the miller thing which is super unlikely
Why ari didnt push her over it 
I never tr either of them

And honestly like you're saying it explains why marci is dead 
I'm assuming they thoyght i'd vote you
Dragons as limbait is interesting tho b/c i've been townreading him all game idj
[/quote]

And this is also probably true cause like

Ari/Ausuka kinda explains everything. It definitely explains how we wound up with these 2 mislims (cause I felt they did a good job kinda sneaking under the radar Day 1 and 2), it explains why they had strong mutual TR all game that turned into a mutual push in Elo (distancing), and though I am not 100% sure it fully explains why skitter was left alive in f5, I honestly can't think of a better explanation than "they wanted skitter to vote Datisi", so I guess that's the reason? Like it kinda sounds ridiculous, but as someone said (I think it was skitter? maybe Ausuka), it's not like a different scumteam would suddenly make you go "ohhh I totally see why they killed marci".  

[quote=Ausuka post_id=13909283 time=1694525192 user_id=30241]
Shrug not really sure what to say here if skitter thinks I have done literally nothing towny the entire game

I think Ari's pivot to like actually scumreading me when skitter goes in that direction is scum probably. Whatever I can't even say I'm sure who the scumteam is here. I think it could realistically be any of the three teams. I guess I could vote Ari? Not really sure what else I can say
[/quote]

Idk Ausuka, can you like point out townie things you did do this game other than talking about your marci dream?

[DragonEater70]

Okay I'm just going to read over this post and if I don't have any super incriminating stuff in it I'll probably submit it

Worst thing that happens, Ausuka decides to vote me and we lose. And yeah maybe I'll feel a bit disappointed since winning here would've been epic, but at least I won't feel stressed anymore about having to win.

So even the worse case isn't so bad.

[DragonEater70]

@mod, I kinda feel like more or less everything I posted after Ari's death feels very rambly (oh shit I forgot I actually had a notes PT for this game lol), so can I just ask for all of it to be deleted in the postgame?

[DragonEater70]

Also

I just realized that my scum case on Ausuka Day 3 was really good and her saying that it was bullshit shouldn't have scared me off.

Like I read that scum case and I'm thinking to myself "she's so scummmyyy"

Imagine a world where instead of backing off I kept pushing her and then me skitter and ari could've yeeted her and lived happily ever after. Or at least me and Ari would live happily ever after.

[DragonEater70]

@mod, I kinda feel like more or less everything I posted after Ari's death feels very rambly (oh shit I forgot I actually had a notes PT for this game lol), so can I just ask for all of it to be deleted in the postgame?

Actually nvm about that