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Post Post #10 (isolation #0) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 6:26 am

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And a thriller.
I forgot how the lyrics go.
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Post Post #11 (isolation #1) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 6:27 am

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VOTE: Sircakez
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Post Post #14 (isolation #2) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 6:28 am

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In post 8, elle (1L) wrote: alexa play four teeth by true widow
Alt spotted.
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Post Post #17 (isolation #3) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 6:29 am

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You’re both scum.
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Post Post #28 (isolation #4) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 6:34 am

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Linking me to an alt of an alt does not solve the puzzle of who you are, if you aren’t trying to hide
And forgive me, forsooth, I’m not scum nor am I trying to pull on your jammies, or give off an authoritarian vibe, but like, just tell me who you are. It’s not like I’ll be able to read you better even if I know.
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Post Post #31 (isolation #5) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 6:35 am

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In post 30, GuiltyLion wrote: what's up gamers!!

VOTE: Bell
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Post Post #36 (isolation #6) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 6:37 am

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In post 32, Ydrasse wrote: VOTE: bell
Also scum.
There’s 1 more scum or was there two scum. I’ll go ahead and guess Elle for 3 because they’re filling the air.
Anyway I’m all out of scums.
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Post Post #38 (isolation #7) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 6:38 am

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Oh wow, I just outright don’t know you.
You didn’t even need an alt!
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Post Post #40 (isolation #8) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 6:38 am

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That’s not grading on a curve.
That’s brutal.
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Post Post #43 (isolation #9) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 6:40 am

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There are just so many scums.
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Post Post #47 (isolation #10) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 6:43 am

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Q. Prism said something about making flavor for the scum or fake claims or something.
Two millers come out and claim.
Mmm, maybe chaotic energy Pooky might ask for it and try to bounce off it with two miller fake claims as a lark. But it seems weird to start there.

Did I misinterpret what Prism meant with their claim thing.
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Post Post #51 (isolation #11) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 6:45 am

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I’m the teacher for the property class.
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Post Post #55 (isolation #12) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 6:46 am

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In post 50, Meuh wrote:
In post 33, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: guiltylion scumclaimjng alrdy smh
So many spelling mistakes, you need to learn how to write (there's your crumb)
So like, a tutor or a student aide at a library?
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Post Post #59 (isolation #13) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 6:46 am

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Stop hiding you coward and do the full claim. *bangs fist on table*
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Post Post #61 (isolation #14) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 6:47 am

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In post 57, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: ok im a member of the federalist society what r u
Ew.
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Post Post #67 (isolation #15) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 6:48 am

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In post 60, Meuh wrote: I'm Prism's legal research and writing class (yes, the class itself)
You’re the curve miller.
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Post Post #68 (isolation #16) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 6:48 am

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Trump isn’t a lawyer.
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Post Post #71 (isolation #17) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 6:51 am

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In post 27, Ydrasse wrote: after wednesday?
watch out...

Mm
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Post Post #77 (isolation #18) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 6:53 am

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I’m trying to figure out if you’re side swiping a partner with a nothing comment, looking desperately for a joke, or noticing that it’s a little odd for anyone to preface that they’re going to be playing the game on their phone, because this is absolutely something we would notice and find weird.
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Post Post #80 (isolation #19) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 6:53 am

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That last part was sarcastic.
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Post Post #82 (isolation #20) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 6:54 am

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VOTE: Elle
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Post Post #88 (isolation #21) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 6:56 am

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And just after critiquing someone for their grammar. The irony, the gall.
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Post Post #95 (isolation #22) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:04 am

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I for one, love asking that question.
I love it so much, I decided not to get in the way of it.
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Post Post #96 (isolation #23) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:05 am

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Meuh Collapsed like a house of cards. Definitely not lawyer material.
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Post Post #98 (isolation #24) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:07 am

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That’s new from Pooky.
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Post Post #100 (isolation #25) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:07 am

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Mine
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Post Post #105 (isolation #26) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:09 am

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The fact that pooky didn’t get that page top must mean he’s buddying me this game.
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Post Post #110 (isolation #27) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:10 am

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I feel like you’re playing parallel to us rather than with us, Elle, like you’re trying to keep up but can’t.

*rolls for instinct*
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Post Post #111 (isolation #28) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:11 am

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109 was a bit better.
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Post Post #113 (isolation #29) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:12 am

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Where is all the shit posting then.
I demand to see some shit.
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Post Post #117 (isolation #30) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:16 am

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*Tilts head*

Yeah, I think I’m going to be watching you closely and seeing if I’m tunneling 10 minutes into the first game day.

I don’t like that you’ve switched to consolation and talking to me like I don’t or might not have an ulterior motive as scum to paint you this way. But I don’t really think it’s that great of a read anyway.
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Post Post #118 (isolation #31) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:17 am

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I believe Meuh when they say they ain’t a game thrower. But that doesn’t mean much for their alignment.
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Post Post #121 (isolation #32) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:19 am

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Ah, same. In marathons I get paralyzed a lot.
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Post Post #123 (isolation #33) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:27 am

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Bell votes Elle
Elle votes Bell

Mmm. It’s really difficult to interpret why you decided to vote me there. There are a whole lot of lines of thoughts and connections I can think of.
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Post Post #127 (isolation #34) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:31 am

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I find it probably not interpretable by my brain.
Brain, you disappoint me.

Pookie’s thing is interesting it goes into a lot about what a town might think while also showing you what he’s thinking. As scum I sometimes try to come off as thoughtful to earn credibility as someone worth keeping around for the first day, but loony’s a known quantity. Then again, habit.

Usually they try to hide how thoughtful they are until later in the game but it’s been so long since I’ve played with them and I think they’ve played the entire time I was chillin’.

So a drastic change isn’t out of character.

Uhhhh.
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Post Post #128 (isolation #35) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:35 am

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Gunna cool my heels for a bit.
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Post Post #130 (isolation #36) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:41 am

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In post 129, Meuh wrote: Okay Bell can just be town

Don’t say that. You’re gunna make the scum team feel bad if the walls are already closing in.

That said, haven’t said anything townie, at least in regards to Pooky. It’s a very par for the course post.
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Post Post #203 (isolation #37) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:55 pm

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Question Ydra, what were you trying to communicate with the Kermit the frog gif?
Be honest.
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Post Post #205 (isolation #38) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 2:00 pm

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Elle, why are you saying scums instead of scum.
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Post Post #207 (isolation #39) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 2:03 pm

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Hum. How am I supposed to respect your interest in being understood if you’re going to be difficult out of a sense of playfulness and teasing. Or power.

Wow, fuck, I hate this post. I swear to god one Machiavelli post per game, no matter how hard I try. Makes me wonder where I caught the stupid from.
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Post Post #209 (isolation #40) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 2:04 pm

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In post 206, Ydrasse wrote: it didn't interest me to engage at the moment so i decided to go with a signature Gif Reply (i should have picked a cat tbh)
if it's around later we can fence over it but meh
Huh, I thought you were basically posturing that you didn’t care, even though you might care.
And then I played the Kermit voice in my head and I laughed a little.
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Post Post #210 (isolation #41) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 2:06 pm

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In post 208, Ydrasse wrote: i aim to be inscrutable in games
I feel like that’s new, I thought like, the last two games, I remember playing with you, you did not appreciate getting voted and wagoned while answering honestly.
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Post Post #214 (isolation #42) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 2:13 pm

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I think you’re mirroring me and I get worried when people do that. But maybe I wasn’t the first person to say scums this game.

So you’re saying as scum, you’d have ignored me?
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Post Post #216 (isolation #43) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 2:17 pm

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Holding off to post this until they respond;

Post: If you say yes, I’m killing you and vilifying your corpse at your own funeral if you flip town.

Pedit: not a bad answer. Probably.
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Post Post #218 (isolation #44) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 2:33 pm

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Thinking.
I do want to explore Pooky’s claim that he has only fake claimed miller once in 19 years. But I will never ever try to sift through his meta, even though I think he’s lied about verifiable meta more than once over the years, while knowing it.
I also want to explore Sircakez point about how Pooky might have told the truth when he announced he was going to kill us all and that he was mafia.

On the other hand, pushing Pooky isn’t very fun. Or rather it’s really confusing and my brain is foaming as it is.

*gurgles*
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Post Post #219 (isolation #45) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 2:36 pm

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I believe you when you say that scums is probably a thing you say before you ever met me. You don’t seem like the type to lie about easily verifiable information, nor to deny things just out of hand as scum.

But the rest is foggy. The speculation as to why you’re being pressured feels like it’s not AI and something someone would say as either alignment but in their position.
Is it 5 to eliminate this day phase? I refuse to check. Don’t check for me, it doesn’t matter.
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Post Post #222 (isolation #46) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 2:43 pm

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Now I have to live with the consequences of knowing that forever.
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Post Post #229 (isolation #47) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 3:15 pm

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But, and hear me out.
What if you aren’t.

@Catboi, but this time, Sircakez was clever. Totally different.
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Post Post #246 (isolation #48) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 4:07 pm

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No, I am not interested in a subscription at time time.

Thank you.
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Post Post #247 (isolation #49) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 4:07 pm

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It was one sentence Bell.
One.
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Post Post #252 (isolation #50) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 4:53 pm

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Catboi used the f word, fair.
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Post Post #265 (isolation #51) » Mon Aug 28, 2023 4:03 am

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In post 260, SirCakez wrote:
In post 229, Bell wrote: But, and hear me out.
What if you aren’t.

@Catboi, but this time, Sircakez was clever. Totally different.
what does this mean?
1. First part is to Ydrasse, just teasing at the “I’m town” thing. I do it all the time, but being a hypocrite is fun.
2. While I saw Pooky’s post about lying not effecting him and thought the joke was that you *couldn’t* tell whether he was lying. Your take that Pooky was actually subverting Meuh’s idea by *not* lying to them to avoid feeling bad for doing so, was much more clever.
Maybe Pooky isn’t that funny though.
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Post Post #266 (isolation #52) » Mon Aug 28, 2023 4:05 am

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Oh, btw I woke up with a fever.
The last time I played mafia with a fever I think I had hypomania. So I will be genuinely taking a back seat and trying not to lose my mind and start announcing that I’ve solved the Puzzle Alex and the rest of you are simply not on my level to see it.
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Post Post #280 (isolation #53) » Mon Aug 28, 2023 12:57 pm

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After 3 years of bragging about avoiding covid.
I got the covid.
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Post Post #283 (isolation #54) » Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:02 pm

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Thank you, thank you, you’re too kind.
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Post Post #325 (isolation #55) » Mon Aug 28, 2023 8:19 pm

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SC’s approach to Pooky is pretty close to mine.
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Post Post #326 (isolation #56) » Mon Aug 28, 2023 8:23 pm

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Not sure what the pseudo condescension from SC is about. I’m not scum so I don’t care as much. But I’m trying to figure out if he’s bitter scum, bein’ bitter, or if he’s being too repulsive to *be* scum because, obviously, pleasing folk is a nice way to win games of mafia as mafia.
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Post Post #327 (isolation #57) » Mon Aug 28, 2023 8:25 pm

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There have been some really good conversations this game. I give this game 5 hearts of healthiness. With one covid heart for good luck.
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Post Post #338 (isolation #58) » Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:56 am

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How would GL voting you if you were town be a productive use of anyone’s time.
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Post Post #339 (isolation #59) » Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:10 pm

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I dunno SC I find your weird mix of aggressive, defensive, simultaneously uncharitable and kind of block-headed take to be eyebrow raising. You said you felt somewhat confident on this so that may explain it. But it doesn’t feel like right.
On the other hand, moral crusades are for the dogs. This is one of those character assassination things where I’m like, maybe cakez is coming off bad because they’re scum and they feel guilt and are playing out the bad guy role.

And then I’m like,

I dunno.
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Post Post #340 (isolation #60) » Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:12 pm

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I feel like I’ve killed SC before for being a blockhead and they flipped town.

This is neither an endorsement nor a defense.
I don’t care what happens to him D1.
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Post Post #341 (isolation #61) » Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:14 pm

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I dunno if I should be trying to kill Dunn this game.
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Post Post #342 (isolation #62) » Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:16 pm

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Their zinger when I called GL scum for voting me felt like an unprofessional lapse when they could have said nothing while just leaving it under their hat. They’re different here.
But.
Mm.
Different ~ scum.

I feel bad. Less covid posting Bell.
Nobody likes covid posters.
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Post Post #345 (isolation #63) » Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:20 pm

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That looks pretty weak to me. Not that I expect confidence.
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Post Post #346 (isolation #64) » Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:22 pm

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Half that post is hedging and they don’t bother to elaborate.
It’s like the opposite of a full-throated endorsement.
A collapsed airway, if you will.
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Post Post #348 (isolation #65) » Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:22 pm

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any other thoughts rn, meuh?
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Post Post #350 (isolation #66) » Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:30 pm

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Hedging is fine.
I almost never (get it?) say things in absolutes.
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Post Post #353 (isolation #67) » Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:32 pm

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I hope you aren’t scum here Meuh,
You’re really nailing that easy to get along with archetype.
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Post Post #372 (isolation #68) » Tue Aug 29, 2023 3:59 pm

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In post 367, SirCakez wrote:
In post 338, Bell wrote: How would GL voting you if you were town be a productive use of anyone’s time.
that was not the point of that, I was trying to see the motivation behind those posts because it felt weird to me
That is very roundabout.
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Post Post #373 (isolation #69) » Tue Aug 29, 2023 4:03 pm

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I interpreted this more as a machismo, face me bro type thing.
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Post Post #376 (isolation #70) » Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:03 pm

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Da’w.
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Post Post #384 (isolation #71) » Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:43 am

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Tentative V/LA feeling worse instead of better.
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Post Post #468 (isolation #72) » Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:21 pm

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UNVOTE:
*snore*
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Post Post #513 (isolation #73) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:14 am

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I'm going to jump back in even though I'm not nearly well enough.
I wanna grill everyone.
But I lack the spatulas, the burgers and the BBQ.
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Post Post #514 (isolation #74) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:23 am

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Ah, Pooky cult counter, numbers go up.
It's so fucking weird that he's probably not scum this game because of the opening miller claim, and yet I cannot shake it. I want to vig the bear.

anyway, anyway,
hmm, 2 day tracker. I don't super care.

I find catboi's take on Luke's interactions with the tvt thing surprisingly persuasive. I'm kind of wondering about how they're addressing push back though. They respond differently to pressure than I do though.

I am impressed Cakeboy did in fact piss me off by leaving Luke at E-1. I understand the difference in philosophy in mafia, but come the fuck on.
*ahem* don't worry. it has nothing to do with the game.
Probably. I kind of think Cakez would see it being a bigger problem leaving his vote there than if he didn't.

Then again, he did.

Cakez, Machismo is not a good approach to get explanations or answers for questions you have and I'm confused why you say I'm correct that there was machismo in that post, while also somehow expecting an answer to that question.
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Post Post #515 (isolation #75) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:24 am

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Yes, I am still harping on something that is old.
But I couldn't ask questions that I wanted to.

my ears are burning.
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Post Post #516 (isolation #76) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:27 am

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I feel like maybe sircakez sets off the conduct inquiry team in me.
okay going way again but I'll pop back in, I can't really ocus on reading the game rn anyway.
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Post Post #543 (isolation #77) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 5:22 pm

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In post 536, catboi wrote: {pooky, bell, meuh}
{cakez}
{Luke, GL}
{Dunn, Ydrasse}
Mmmm
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Post Post #545 (isolation #78) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 5:26 pm

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Dunn, I will move on you if you don’t suggest a better alternative in a better way.

I say as if power is something I have over anyone.
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Post Post #549 (isolation #79) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 5:40 pm

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Please don’t,
Cakez is perfectly able to be a clumsy misanthrope as either alignment. I know this because I’ve killed him when he’s been either and been confused.

I still am confused.

Pedit: your pocketing is noted igmeoy *pockets snoopy img for collection*
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Post Post #552 (isolation #80) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 5:42 pm

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Yeah, I knew you’d say that.
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Post Post #553 (isolation #81) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 5:44 pm

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That’s why I said a better way.
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Post Post #555 (isolation #82) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 5:46 pm

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Your honor nothing in that statement implies the guilt of the defense, there’s nothing to object to.
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Post Post #558 (isolation #83) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 5:47 pm

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Except of whether Sircakez is or is not a misanthrope. Which is the actual case before the court. And this mafia game is just a pretext for that.
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Post Post #560 (isolation #84) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 5:48 pm

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Outmaneuvered.
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Post Post #561 (isolation #85) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 5:49 pm

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In what way have I assassinated the character of the defense’s client?
You’re not even a judge, you’re the defense. You want to threaten someone’s career in front of the judge?

Okay.
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Post Post #562 (isolation #86) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 5:53 pm

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In post 556, Dunnstral wrote: Do you agree with my townreads on Pooky, Meuh, Catboi, and You?
The squeeze there is that both catboi and you are largely getting by in my reads due to the confidence you’re placing in your town reads.

This is my basic trajectory, but I also want to challenge that.
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Post Post #564 (isolation #87) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 5:55 pm

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I’m not in front of the jury.
I’m at home.
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Post Post #565 (isolation #88) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 5:55 pm

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I’m probably behind the jury.
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Post Post #567 (isolation #89) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 5:58 pm

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Yes I was thinking in terms of which way each individual player was facing.
More likely than not, I ain’t in front of them.
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Post Post #568 (isolation #90) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:00 pm

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In post 556, Dunnstral wrote: Do you agree with my townreads on Pooky, Meuh, Catboi, and You?
I strongly disagree that I’m town.
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Post Post #569 (isolation #91) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:06 pm

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I think in the world of politics the most convenient answer is that the scum team is in SC, ydrasse, Lukewarm.

But I’m not really here for that.
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Post Post #571 (isolation #92) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:19 pm

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It'd be nice if I knew the first thing about law. youtube videos are not helpful, or the ones I watch aren't terribly so.
Stages of trial and so on.
Been nice reading about some of the cases.
Though, I'm, not really sure how they caught the dude that lit that ship on fire. He could just deny it, unless there was some sort of alibi issue with the rest of the people on board. But it sounds slike some people died in that fire.
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Post Post #576 (isolation #93) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:31 pm

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I think you're developing reads more openly than you usually do on day one, I'd like to know why.
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Post Post #577 (isolation #94) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:36 pm

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I vaguely feel that Pooky has committed some sort of mega crime by not binging Law & order (which I only know by rep, I won't ever watch it) and instead did suits (which I also have not and will never watch) to prepare for this game.
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Post Post #578 (isolation #95) » Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:41 pm

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In post 569, Bell wrote: I think in the world of politics the most convenient answer is that the scum team is in SC, ydrasse, Lukewarm.

But I’m not really here for that.
Oh and I guess GL is in there too.
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Post Post #620 (isolation #96) » Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:15 pm

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It’s a natural consequence of their opinions, imo that catboi and Dunn are pals this game.
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Post Post #621 (isolation #97) » Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:16 pm

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In post 607, Ydrasse wrote: it's whatever you think it means
:neutral:
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Post Post #623 (isolation #98) » Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:18 pm

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I dunno, it sounded like it made sense.
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Post Post #625 (isolation #99) » Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:19 pm

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Has pooky given an opinion on Ydra
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Post Post #628 (isolation #100) » Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:21 pm

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Oh, well if Pooky thinks Ydra is scum that’s honestly good enough for me on d1.
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Post Post #630 (isolation #101) » Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:22 pm

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Weird that you’ve chosen to agree with someone’s read instead of developing your own opinion given *waves vaguely at the entire plist*
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Post Post #631 (isolation #102) » Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:22 pm

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That wasn’t sarcasm.
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Post Post #633 (isolation #103) » Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:25 pm

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Cool. You can kill her then.
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Post Post #635 (isolation #104) » Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:27 pm

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Well if you don’t want to pressure her, all you have to do is kill her instead.
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Post Post #637 (isolation #105) » Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:28 pm

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You think she’s maf tho.
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Post Post #639 (isolation #106) » Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:57 pm

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I actually think I think I might actually be thinking Pooky is town this game.

Weird feeling.
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Post Post #640 (isolation #107) » Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:57 pm

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But rolling with the progress.
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Post Post #653 (isolation #108) » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:51 pm

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You'd kill someone for aTe?
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Post Post #654 (isolation #109) » Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:52 pm

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That seems more like something I'd do than something you'd do.
Then again!
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Post Post #655 (isolation #110) » Fri Sep 01, 2023 4:01 pm

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Why is Ydra still voting me
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Post Post #660 (isolation #111) » Fri Sep 01, 2023 4:47 pm

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Hey Luke, just checking in but are you lying about your role claim?
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Post Post #682 (isolation #112) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:44 am

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In post 680, SirCakez wrote: but this is tough because I don't think catboi/GL make any sense as scum together and I also find things independently scummy from GL
How is that tough? Just kill the one you suspect more of being scum individually.
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Post Post #688 (isolation #113) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 1:03 pm

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I would like to announce I have woken from my 5 pm nap to once again ask the following question

Why is Ydra still voting me.
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Post Post #690 (isolation #114) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 1:23 pm

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Oh good GL is here.
Are you scum?
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Post Post #691 (isolation #115) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 1:28 pm

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Do you know why Ydra is still voting me?
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Post Post #692 (isolation #116) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 1:28 pm

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If you aren't scum what are you doing different here that you'd only do as town?
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Post Post #694 (isolation #117) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 1:30 pm

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Why do you think I'm town this game GL?
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Post Post #696 (isolation #118) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 1:32 pm

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That answer sucks.
Because obviously you pivot around different people and choose where your focus is as one alignment over the other.
People don't play alignments the same as either alignment.
They never have.

Choosing to be offended by Catboi,
choosing to provide an "olive branch"
these are choices you might make them differently or it might take you longer to make each choice depending on your alignment.
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Post Post #698 (isolation #119) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 1:34 pm

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Cool you're dead to me.
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Post Post #699 (isolation #120) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 1:35 pm

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VOTE: GL
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Post Post #703 (isolation #121) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 1:39 pm

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They're definitely choices by any measure of the word.
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Post Post #707 (isolation #122) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 1:45 pm

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That's because you've decided that if someone calls you harmful to the town you'll get upset.
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Post Post #709 (isolation #123) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 1:47 pm

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There are plenty of players that wouldn't get upset if they were told that. They would shrug it off, think it was a troll, examine it as a possible manipulation with a possible motivation.
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Post Post #711 (isolation #124) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 1:49 pm

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So you've decided that you'll get upset if you perceive a rejection on a social level. Based on a category of insult Catboi lobbed at you that basically said you're a liability
and you got upset even though it wasn't true. Obviously. So what was the point of getting upset?
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Post Post #716 (isolation #125) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 1:58 pm

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You decided to get upset you even have a little algorithm based on each reality that might be presented to you. It's alreday been worked out beforehand, you've probably even experienced the insult before and know which thoughts to take here.

obviously there's another option here: You don't take offense to it, because you're scum and it's hard to be actually upset at someone for them calling you anti-town, when you're being anti-town.
Well actually it's not. Especially if they don't really agree with which actions and so on an so forth blah blahblah.

I don't know why you wouln't put the 3rd option in there. I'd do it, but then again I'm an odd ball that actually looks at my perspective as scum, when I'm not scum.
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Post Post #719 (isolation #126) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 2:01 pm

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Pooky why do you think Catboi is feeding into that sort of Bell is "the shit" as if there is a player that is silo'd naturally I am the absolute archetypical example. If he's recently had a bad experience due to that attitude, shouldn't he be all over me?
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Post Post #720 (isolation #127) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 2:02 pm

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What, I'm not trying to shame you.
I'm trying to see what you're thinking. Because I'm scum hunting.
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Post Post #724 (isolation #128) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 2:07 pm

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He literally posted a snoopy image with a crown on it.
he described our conversation on Sircakez as hilarious when it was funny at best.
He left his will to me and was like "When I die Bell, Take Dunnstrall and all my shit, you got this"
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Post Post #727 (isolation #129) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 2:11 pm

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Psychological info dump break GL:
You can think of emotions as these like, warning signals the same way that you can hear movement of the leaves or a sudden movement out of the corner of your eye.
How we respond to our emotions, what we do with what they're telling us is a decision. Some therapy is based in the idea that if more space and time is created between our reactions to our emotions we can come up with better decisions/solutions and have more control over what we do with them.

Info dump over.
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Post Post #728 (isolation #130) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 2:11 pm

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In post 725, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 724, Bell wrote: He literally posted a snoopy image with a crown on it.
he described our conversation on Sircakez as hilarious when it was funny at best.
He left his will to me and was like "When I die Bell, Take Dunnstrall and all my shit, you got this"
bruh he posted a comic strip that doesn't make you king homie
My point stands.
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Post Post #729 (isolation #131) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 2:13 pm

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In post 726, Meuh wrote: :(
The daddy's aren't fighting, they're just having a conversation.
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Post Post #731 (isolation #132) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 2:21 pm

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In post 725, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 724, Bell wrote: He literally posted a snoopy image with a crown on it.
he described our conversation on Sircakez as hilarious when it was funny at best.
He left his will to me and was like "When I die Bell, Take Dunnstrall and all my shit, you got this"
bruh he posted a comic strip that doesn't make you king homie
You should be able to realize when someone is stroking your ego. You especially. Buddying is happening. Is it because they think I'm town? Or are they trying to manipulate me? Or both? I don't get it. But I feel like you should, rather than using a thought ending cliche here to dismiss the thought.
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Post Post #732 (isolation #133) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 2:23 pm

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Then again, this is exactly where you'd push back and to be fair, your perspective is fairly limited unless it's about you or certain players you're paying close attention to.
I do think you're paying attention to catboi here though.
I'm just not sure you're paying attention to me.
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Post Post #733 (isolation #134) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 2:25 pm

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I can think of at least two places where catboi has tried to buddy up to you. Did you ignore them? Are you going to deny they happened or that it wasn't intentional?
Do you not find their response to the "my cat" line at least, interesting or something opening you up to vulnerability?
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Post Post #735 (isolation #135) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 2:29 pm

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Okay so you're refusing to answer even though you can write an entire 2 paragraphs on your approach to a counter miller claim. \
Would you like to explain why?
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Post Post #737 (isolation #136) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 2:31 pm

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Okay, so why didn't you say that when people criticized your approach to Meuh and instead got all technical?
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Post Post #740 (isolation #137) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 2:37 pm

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I genuinely don't know what to say about you saying that trying to read in to that is stupid given your own penchant for buddying and the other player being Petapan who has their own history of being extremely competent scum.
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Post Post #742 (isolation #138) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 2:40 pm

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In post 739, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 737, Bell wrote: Okay, so why didn't you say that when people criticized your approach to Meuh and instead got all technical?
i have no idea what the connection between these two things are
You're being selectively ignorant. When people criticized your approach you had a defense and you ha it ready to go, you could have just said, "hey bro, I was just vibing with Meuh man don't overthink it"
instead you write 2 paragraphs of "over thought" which is just normal thinking.
But here you're refusing to seriously exam an significantly dumbing down your own perspective and relationship with someone you've been playing on and off with for years.
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Post Post #744 (isolation #139) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 2:43 pm

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You have opinions about how Petapan approaches players and how they try to win. I don't see why you're dismissing an entire category of manipulation, especially one that you're particularly good at.
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Post Post #748 (isolation #140) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 2:46 pm

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In post 743, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: If you have like an actual reason to scumread Catboi I suggest you use one sentence to express it to me so that it's concise and easily understandable by someone of my limited attention span.
I think they're stroking egos and emotionally manipulating people by selectively complimenting and insulting them. I find their response to Ydra's claim and their doom and gloom to be informed as being more confient in a backlash than a town's person might have.
I'm just guessing though. I find their emotional approach to this game somewhat clumsy to be honest. I think it was meant to shore up support maybe? I dunno.
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Post Post #749 (isolation #141) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 2:49 pm

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It feels really bad to say that the reason Catboi can't be scum this game is that he'd look cooler if accidentally stepping on a Ydra landmine and his speculation would be better.

I'm still guessing as to whether his sudden dooming and glooming is actually based on Ydra's insinuation claim or if they genuinely thought Sircakez and whoever else would have the ability to pool off an elimination of them.
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Post Post #752 (isolation #142) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 2:51 pm

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Like, would his grasp on the game state be that bad? Because multiple players have expressed confusion on it and I'm confused because I too don't get it.
I don't know which Peta has a better grasp on game states, so that's why it came off as informed because everyone else *wasn't* where they were at, indicating they knew something the rest of us (Luke, Dunn, I), don't.
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Post Post #754 (isolation #143) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 2:53 pm

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In post 747, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: i mean you've played against both of us surely you've noticed a difference right lol
Mean.
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Post Post #757 (isolation #144) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 3:01 pm

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*blink*
I wasn't really mad or trying to upset anyone.
I was just digging at Pooky, guessing at Catboi's alignment and airing out some of my suspicions, and trying to determine if GL's emotional response was real.

Apologies for creating a negative environment. It wasn't my intent.
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Post Post #759 (isolation #145) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 3:04 pm

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VOTE: Ydrasse
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Post Post #766 (isolation #146) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 3:18 pm

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Take care, Peta. I'm sorry everyone if I made the game unpleasant, I was having fun talking to people and questioning them. That's all I was trying to do. Then again, I'm not sure if, well, GL certainly felt that way. Sorry GL. I'd blame covid, but it's just pretty typical for me to question everything during a game of mafia.

1. I don't think GL is scum this game.
2. I need to process the rep out.
3. *hammocks*
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Post Post #767 (isolation #147) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 3:20 pm

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In post 765, SirCakez wrote: yeah I'll stick with GL rn
Why?
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Post Post #771 (isolation #148) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 3:38 pm

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Do you have any other thoughts right now Sircakez?
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Post Post #776 (isolation #149) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 3:56 pm

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K, jsyk, that approach is going to make me scum read you harder, esp now that I don't think it's GL.
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Post Post #778 (isolation #150) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 3:59 pm

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I don't think they're faking their madness at Catboi for calling them a tunneled noob.
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Post Post #781 (isolation #151) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:01 pm

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I also don't think they pretend to think I'm shaming them as scum. It doesn't really make sense.
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Post Post #782 (isolation #152) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:02 pm

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In post 780, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: catboi did not call them a tunneled n00b why r u such an instigator bell
I'm paraphrasing, sue me.
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Post Post #788 (isolation #153) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:06 pm

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I'm too short sighted and too motivated by my win condition. I tend to think AtE is kind of like a candle anyway. It works for a little, but it won't sustain you for long.

@Sircakez: The material difference is that you're going to have to play around me.
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Post Post #791 (isolation #154) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:08 pm

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I'm told I can be annoying.

@Prism: TY, I wouldn't have known that. Good to know for the future, though might be a mod-by-mod thing.
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Post Post #797 (isolation #155) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:17 pm

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In post 787, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: which by the way is why i did not want to scumread catboi for being a nice dude to me earlier cuz like thats just asinine and makes the game less pleasant for absolutely no reason
You don't have to scum read them tho. I'd expect paranoia or at least consideration if their action was in good faith. Keeping the mood positive and light doesn't seem (to me at least) to require this sort of selectivity.
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Post Post #799 (isolation #156) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:24 pm

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Hmm, Sure, I wouldn't, but, eh.
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Post Post #800 (isolation #157) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:24 pm

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I hope you don't have that expectation both ways because you definitely buddy people to win games.
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Post Post #803 (isolation #158) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 4:31 pm

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Sure, we all have our rules. Our own personal reasons that don't necessarily have to do with our win condition.
I have similar rules, one is that when it's game time. It's game time and everyone is playing the game. This protects me from taking things personally and allows me to ask questions people might be uncomfortable being asked or that I might be uncomfortable asking, it helps me question players like LLD without running directly for the hills. I also recognize that for some people game time, is not strictly game time and that by me treating it like it is I might piss someone off, but that's okay. I need the helmet.
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Post Post #809 (isolation #159) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 5:39 pm

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@Dunnstral: It's kind of obvious on its face isn't it? There's no reason to take offense at being called anti-town if you're scum. Except because taking offense is what town would be expected to do. The policy itself or being policy limmed is what seemed to especially bother GL, as they felt it was a rejection of who they were. They tried to examine why I was asking them the questions I was asking them and somehow reached the conclusion I was trying to make them feel ashamed (I wasn't). There's also just the case of ego, I'm not sure or rather I don't think GL would choose to come off that way. in addition if he's scum there's almost no way it's a negative reaction. Because what would it be a negative reaction to? Catboi being right?

@ Dunn: Oh no, I was conflating.
Emotions are a reaction to something.
But emotions are a sort of additional sense, like taste or smell. they're telling you something, but how you choose to respond to your emotions is in your control.
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Post Post #812 (isolation #160) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 5:51 pm

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In post 810, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: townreading people for negativity is ridiculous
I'll scum read you for your negativity then!
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Post Post #813 (isolation #161) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 6:01 pm

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What did you town read them for, then, Pooky? you implied in a post that you disagreed with, like, the idea of checking for anger because it encourages the children, but I dunno what you're thinking about GL then.
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Post Post #846 (isolation #162) » Sun Sep 03, 2023 11:50 am

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VC por favor.
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Post Post #847 (isolation #163) » Sun Sep 03, 2023 11:51 am

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Rh9 seems fine.
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Post Post #848 (isolation #164) » Sun Sep 03, 2023 11:51 am

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In post 834, SirCakez wrote:
In post 831, Meuh wrote: Cakez are you scum
is there ever a right answer to this question lmao

The correct answer is yes if you’re town, and no if you’re scum.
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Post Post #867 (isolation #165) » Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:39 am

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I think my current yeet plans are either Dunn or Ydra.
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Post Post #868 (isolation #166) » Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:40 am

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Scum team, take notes.
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Post Post #870 (isolation #167) » Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:20 am

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Scum team wants to know the lay of land.
I'm giving them tips since they're probably isolated with a Pooky, Meuh, Bell, town.
They have a narrow path to thread, you know?
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Post Post #871 (isolation #168) » Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:43 am

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You know what, I'm just going to be optimistic. why not Dunn,
you can have a good game with a productive start and some thoughts.
it doesn't have to mean you're scum.
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Post Post #873 (isolation #169) » Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:57 am

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From my perspective, there's no difference. I lack your context.
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Post Post #874 (isolation #170) » Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:58 am

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So you think Ydra is the most likely to be scum?
Why are going with "I'm not impressed" as your reasoning here? In addition why aren't you afraid of outting another PR, or do you doubt that Lukewarm is one given your narrow pool?
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Post Post #877 (isolation #171) » Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:59 pm

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But you feel comfortable enough to put Ydra who has strongly implied she’s a PR?
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Post Post #882 (isolation #172) » Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:07 pm

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1. @Dunn, so you missed her heavy hinting at being a PR?
2. @Pooky, I think in some circumstances she might. But that’s not really the thought I’m having.

I can examine people’s reasoning while being on the wagon ya’know.
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Post Post #911 (isolation #173) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 10:36 am

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Cool, let's hammer Ydra.
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Post Post #921 (isolation #174) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:00 am

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Thing is, is it was flavor. So there was literally no reason to hide it.
Hell, I outright claimed my flavor on like, page 3.
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Post Post #922 (isolation #175) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:01 am

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In post 912, SirCakez wrote: fuck this game is so hard
every time i form a scumread on someone they give me a reason to think they are town
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Post Post #925 (isolation #176) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:03 am

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I'm not buying what you're selling, sorry that I suck and cannot tell fact from fiction.
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Post Post #936 (isolation #177) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:18 am

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As a Ydra knower,
They do that a lot, even as scum. It's an idiosyncracy of theirs.
It gets noticed often and makes people hesitate too.
Doesn't mean she's scum, but she does what you're picking up on as scum too.

THEN AGAIN THAT WAS LIKE 50 YEARS AGO.
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Post Post #942 (isolation #178) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:25 am

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Hey Ydra,
I know this is silly to even mention,
but I know you know you're making appeals to fear.
Why are you letting yourself make them when you know they're not awesome and don't work.
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Post Post #946 (isolation #179) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:29 am

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We'll be fine.
We have like 3 obvtowns this game. You even said it yourself.
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Post Post #950 (isolation #180) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:32 am

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If there's one thing I'm confident in, it's in my capacity to be bad.
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Post Post #952 (isolation #181) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:34 am

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Indubitably, Ydrasse.
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Post Post #953 (isolation #182) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:53 am

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I find the Pooky isn't trying thing patently untrue.
I say this as someone who is deeply skeptical of Pooky and constantly checking to see if he's trying, when he's trying and why he's trying.

So, yeah.
We should kill Ydrasse. Unless they're town, in which case please ignore me. I know not what I do.
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Post Post #954 (isolation #183) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:54 am

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I'm having fun.
It's a shame everything smells like metal and there's an awful taste in my mouth.
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Post Post #979 (isolation #184) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 9:44 pm

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Her claim makes some sense.
it just doesn’t mean she’s town.
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Post Post #1960 (isolation #185) » Mon Sep 25, 2023 2:09 pm

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I liked this game and I liked the dead thread.

I'm happy for notes release, albeit I no longer remember what I wrote in it. Nothing truly relevant.

@GL, crocodile tears are fine and I default to emotional manipulation too when I'm scum. I have learned how to work around it a little. Like you plan to. To limited success since it's kind of a complicated minefield.
I'm not upset at how you played this game.

You should read the dead thread when You get a chance.
It was terrible.
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Post Post #1961 (isolation #186) » Mon Sep 25, 2023 2:09 pm

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Thanks for modding, Prism, and thanks for playing everyone!
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Post Post #1969 (isolation #187) » Mon Sep 25, 2023 2:17 pm

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It goes without saying that I am always grateful for FF.
But fine.

THANK YOU FF, I LOVE YOU, YOU'RE THE BEST. BUT, YOU KNOW THAT.

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