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Normal Queue Thread (Players and Mods)

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Sun Sep 03, 2023 4:20 pm

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Normal Queue


This thread serves to facilitate signups for both players and moderators of
Normal Games
. Normal Games are played in the New York subforum and are moved here (Micros/Minis) or here (Larges) once completed. Mafia games must meet the following criteria from the Normal Game wiki page in order to be run in the Normal queue:
  1. The game is reasonably balanced and does not deviate from what one would reasonably expect in a standard Mafia game.
  2. The game is reviewed for balance by the Normal Game Review Group.
  3. If the game is a Mini, the game contains exactly one anti-town informed minority faction of at least two members and no other anti-town factions.
  4. If the game is a Large, the game contains at least one, but no more than two, anti-town informed minority factions of at least two members, and contains no more than one serial killer.
  5. The game contains at least one Vanilla Townie. The rules post contains a sample Vanilla Townie role PM.
  6. All roles and modifiers used are on the normal role whitelist (refer to the Normal Game wiki page).
  7. The game does not contain any explicitly Non-Normal mechanics (refer to the Normal Game wiki page)
  8. The game moderator announces any deviations from the standard Normal parameters regarding phase length, daytalk, action resolution, Day/Night cycle, multi-tasking, etc (refer to the Normal Game wiki page).
  9. Roles use standard names and role PMs do not contain flavor.
  10. All flavor is public and entirely original. (Flavor based on any kind of source material should be run in the Theme Queue.
  11. Flavor does not have any impact on the game - it should be possible for a player to read only the role reveals and gain all information needed to play. This information is formatted to stand out from any flavor.
Normal games are divided into the following categories:
  1. Micro: 9 or less players
  2. Mini: 10 to 13 players
  3. Large: 14 or more players
Changes to the Normal Queue and game standards are located here.

In order to keep the queue organized, please keep posts relevant to the game queue and refrain from making off-topic posts in this thread. If you have any questions or concerns, you can always contact a
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Sun Sep 03, 2023 4:21 pm

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Queue Information


Game queue:

Up to two games will be in signup at a time. Additionally, a maximum of one Large Normal can be in signups at a time. Any additional games will wait in the queue in the order of moderator signup. Once a game in signups has either been filled or removed from the queue, the next game in the queue for that game size will enter signups.

Games may be removed from the queue if any of the following occur:
  • The game has been in signups for 72 hours and the game moderator has not confirmed their game slot
  • The game moderator is banned from mafia games when the game goes into signups or while the game is in signups
  • The game moderator has abandoned an ongoing game while the game is in signups
  • Other situations on a case by case basis
If a game is removed from the queue, it can be immediately re-entered at the back of the queue as long as the game moderator is not currently banned from mafia games.

Queue updates:

Any games currently in signups will be listed in periodic queue update posts, along with the current playerlists. The most up-to-date queue will always be listed in these update posts.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Sun Sep 03, 2023 4:23 pm

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Player Information


Requirements for joining games:

By default, there are no requirements for players joining Normal Games. Game moderators may choose to specify additional requirements regarding the use of alts. You can check the game description to confirm whether you are eligible to join the game.

If you're new to mafia, we generally recommend playing an Open (specifically an Approved Open setup) or Normal game (this queue) first.

Joining games:

Only games that are currently in signups can be joined immediately. To join a game currently in signups, you need to post "/in for game name", "/in for game size", or "/in for game moderator's name" in this thread. Posting "/in" without specifying a game in some way will not be considered a valid signup.

If a game is not currently in signups, you cannot sign up for it yet, but you are encouraged to PM the moderator to "pre-in" for the game, which reserves a slot for you when it reaches signups if the game moderator has chosen to reserve slots for pre-ins.

If you change your mind after signing up for a game and before the game begins, you need to post "/out" to indicate that you no longer wish to play the game. If you have signed up for more than one game in this queue, please specify somehow which game you are removing yourself from.

Game limits:

Each player can be active in a total of only eight games of ten or more players at a time. Hydras and alt accounts count toward this limit. While it's helpful to keep track of this yourself, Listmods will have a list, and we can let you know. If a player dies in an ongoing game, that player is considered released and is free to sign up for another.

There is no limit to how many Micro games a player can be active in simultaneously (nine or fewer players). However, keep in mind that excessive flaking out or replacing out will likely result in restrictions from joining new games until a player shows they can handle playing multiple games responsibly.

Player priority:

Players can directly contact the game moderator before a game goes into signups to request a reserved slot ("pre-in"). Games are allowed to have up to half of its slots, rounded down, reserved for pre-ins. Once the game goes into signups, anyone who reserved a pre-in slot must post in the queue thread to confirm their slot within 72 hours.

All other player slots are first come, first serve.

Game moderators can reject signups from players for any reason, referred to as "Wisdom of the Mod" (WOTM). Although player blacklists will not be enforced at a listmod level, players may contact a game moderator if they have issues with other players signing up for a game. It is ultimately up to the game moderator whether they will reject signups from other players based on this information.

Hydra accounts:

A
hydra
is an account that two or more people play from but that is treated as one player slot in the game ("one body, multiple heads").

Hydras are not permitted in Normal games.

Alt accounts:

Any account other than a player's main account is considered an alternate or
alt
account.

Alts are not required by default to declare themselves or reveal the identity of their main account when signing up for a game. However, game moderators may choose to require all alts to disclose their identities to the game moderator. You may also be requested to reveal the identity of your main account later on in certain cases, i.e. if a rule infraction occurs.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Sun Sep 03, 2023 4:24 pm

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Moderator Information


Experience requirements:

To moderate a Normal game, you must meet the following requirements:
  • You must have been active on this site for at least three months and have completed at least one Mafia game as a player.
  • Additionally, if the game is a Large Normal, you must have successfully moderated one Mafia game. The best queues to gain moderating experience are Micro or Mini Normals and Approved Open setups (these game types do not require any experience to moderate games).
  • If you have not moderated any Large games before, you may not have more than 21 players in your game (may be waived by the Listmod on a case by case basis).
If joining the moderation queue could cause you to be moderating multiple games at once, you need at least as many games of moderating experience as the number of simultaneous games you might be moderating.

If you have experience moderating offsite games, you may request these games to be considered as equivalent experience. It is up to the Listmod's discretion whether they will qualify.

Backup/co-moderator requirements:

A backup or co-mod will be required for all Normal games unless it is the only game you are running across all queues
and
your game has thirteen or fewer players. If this is the only game you are running across all queues and your game has thirteen or fewer players, a backup/co-mod is strongly recommended but not required. If your game has fourteen or more players, a backup or co-mod is always required. Backup mods/co-mods must also meet the modding requirements for the game on their own such that they would be qualified to take over in the event the original game moderator cannot continue moderating the game.

First-time game moderators must always have a backup or co-mod.

Thread access: You must make a moderator private topic in the Private Topics subforum that fully describes your setup and contains the list of roles assigned to players. If you have a backup/co-mod, you must give them access to this and all PTs you make for the game, and make them a thread moderator for your main game thread. If you do not have a backup/co-mod, you must give access to your PTs to the Listmod.

Setup requirements:

Game moderators may choose to design their own setup or use a setup pre-designed by the Normal Game Review Group. If you decide to design your own setup, you must submit the setup to the Listmod when you sign up to moderate a game, and the Listmod will facilitate the setup review.

Mafia games must meet the following criteria from the Normal Game wiki page in order to be run in the Normal queue:
  1. The game is reasonably balanced and does not deviate from what one would reasonably expect in a standard Mafia game.
  2. The game is reviewed for balance by the Normal Game Review Group.
  3. If the game is a Micro or Mini, the game contains exactly one anti-town informed minority faction of at least two members and no other anti-town factions.
  4. If the game is a Large, the game contains at least one, but no more than two, anti-town informed minority factions of at least two members, and contains no more than one serial killer.
  5. The game contains at least one Vanilla Townie. The rules post contains a sample Vanilla Townie role PM.
  6. All roles and modifiers used are on the normal role whitelist (refer to the Normal Game wiki page).
  7. The game does not contain any explicitly Non-Normal mechanics (refer to the Normal Game wiki page)
  8. The game moderator announces any deviations from the standard Normal parameters regarding phase length, daytalk, action resolution, Day/Night cycle, multi-tasking, etc (refer to the Normal Game wiki page).
  9. Roles use standard names and role PMs do not contain flavor.
  10. All flavor is public and entirely original. (Flavor based on any kind of source material should be run in the Theme Queue.
  11. Flavor does not have any impact on the game - it should be possible for a player to read only the role reveals and gain all information needed to play. This information is formatted to stand out from any flavor.
First-time game moderators are encouraged, although not required, to use pre-designed setups, as they are designed by players who are familiar with the site’s meta.

Review requirements:

All Normal games are required to be reviewed by the Normal Game Review Group. Game moderators who choose to design their own setup must submit the setup to the Listmod when signing up to moderate a game, and the Listmod will facilitate the setup review. The game moderator must provide the following information when signing up to moderate a game:
  • Number of players
  • List of roles, including role PMs
Opening post, including game rules, are appreciated but not required. If you are a new moderator, or you plan to include unusual rules in your game, please do post your opening posts and rules in your review topic.

Game moderators who choose to use a pre-designed setup will receive a setup that has already been reviewed by the NRG and do not have to undergo any further setup review. You should specify what playerlist size you wish to use. You may also ask who designed the available setups, if you would prefer to run a setup designed by a specific member of the NRG. You will receive the setup when your game enters signups so that you can familiarize yourself with the setup.

Queue/game limitations:

Game moderators can run a maximum of two games with ten or more players at a time. Game moderators must wait until they are only running one game with ten or more players before they can enter a queue for ten or more players again.

There is no limit to the number of games with nine or fewer players that a game moderator can run at a time. However, game moderators cannot enter a new game into the queue until any games they have previously queued have entered signups. This is to prevent a game moderator from taking up multiple consecutive spots in the queue when there are multiple other game moderators waiting to run games as well.

Queue responsibilities:

Players can directly contact the game moderator before a game goes into signups to request a reserved slot ("pre-in"). Games are allowed to have up to half of its slots, rounded down, reserved for pre-ins.

Once a game has entered signups, the game moderator has 72 hours to confirm their game slot and list any pre-ins in the queue thread. It is the game moderator's responsibility to make sure that players with pre-in slots confirm them within 72 hours of the game entering signups.

Game moderators can reject signups from players for any reason, referred to as "Wisdom of the Mod" (WOTM). The game moderator has final discretion over their player list.

Moderation activity expectations:

Moderators should create their game thread within 72 hours of receiving their playerlist, moderator access to the subforum, and game number, and start the game within 10 days of receiving their playerlist. If they fail to do so, the game will be considered abandoned. Moderators should update their games at least as often as the prod timer for their game, and if they fail to update it after triple the prod timer for their game, the Listmod may have someone else take over moderation for the game (and there will be other penalties if this happens.) You should treat moderating a game as a commitment. Note that backup moderators and co-moderators are an excellent way to avoid these scenarios. Backup/co-mods should be prepared to run the game to completion if the game moderator is unable to do so.

Other game moderator expectations:

Game moderators must follow the Rules for Mafia Game Moderators section of the Forum Rules and Guidelines.

Game elements at moderator discretion:

The following game elements can be decided at a game moderator’s discretion, and must be announced when entering the queue as part of the queue entry form:
  1. Alt policy
    : Alts are not required by default to declare themselves or reveal the identity of their main account when signing up for a game. However, game moderators may choose to require all alts to disclose their identities to the game moderator. Game moderators can also require alts to reveal their main account later on in certain cases, i.e. if a rule infraction occurs.
  2. Player list discretion
    : Game moderators have full discretion over their player lists, including the use of WOTM or WOTC, as well as whether they wish to consider blacklists. Game moderators should exercise this discretion over player signups by privately contacting players to let them know their signup is not being accepted. If a player does not remove their signup on their own, the game moderator may then post publicly in the queue thread to remove the player’s signup.
    1. Wisdom of the Mod (WOTM): The game moderator can choose to reject players from their player list at their own discretion.
    2. Wisdom of the Crowd (WOTC)/Blacklisting: Players can privately contact the game moderator if a player signs up after them that they will not play with. The game moderator has discretion over whether to accept the player’s signup. Generally this option requires multiple players to WOTC a player before a game moderator would choose not to accept a player’s signup, although ultimately the game moderator can decide the threshold they require in order to remove a player’s signup.
  3. Requesting exceptions to site rules
    : Game moderators can request certain exceptions to the site’s mafia rules, including players being able to replace back into their slot after previously replacing out, allowing discussion of their game in other threads while it is ongoing, requesting to be able to use site users in flavor without requiring listmod review of the text, etc. Game moderators may not supersede site rules without prior Listmod approval.
Note that unlike the Open and Theme Queues, game moderators may not specify experience requirements for Normal games. In addition, hydras are not allowed in Normals.

Game moderators should also describe any other nonstandard elements to their setup or rules when entering the queue.

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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Sun Sep 03, 2023 4:25 pm

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Queue Form


Use this form to sign up to run a game.
moderator signup form
/in to mod

Number of Players:
[If you are using a pre-designed setup, you can specify the size of a pre-designed setup that you would like to use]
Custom or Pre-Designed:
[Specify whether you will be designing your own setup or using a pre-designed setup. If designing your own, submit the setup to the Listmod following the instructions in the Review requirements section above. If using a pre-designed setup, please select one of the listed from the queue post below. You you may ask who designed the available setups.]
Backup/Co-Mod:
[See backup/co-moderator requirements section above. Your backup/co-mod must qualify to run the game on their own and be prepared to take over running the game in the event you are unable to continue running it.]

Player Experience:
[Link a completed played game as required according to the Experience requirements section.]
Moderating Experience:
[Link as many moderated games as are required according to the Experience requirements section.]
Current Modding Commitments:
[Are there any other games you are currently running or have in queue?]

Alt Policy:
[Indicate whether you will require alts to disclose the identity of their main account to you]
Playerlist Policy:
[Indicate whether WOTM or WOTC will be in effect, and how you will treat blacklists]
[Reminder: Normal games cannot have restrictions on player experience requirements and cannot have hydras.]

Deadlines:
[What Day/Night deadlines will you use for your game?]
Prod Timer:
[Length of time between posts that will result in a player being prodded?]

Other:
[Is there any other information players should know about your game?]


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[b]/in to mod[/b]
[b]Number of Players:[/b] [If you are using a pre-designed setup, you can specify the size of a pre-designed setup that you would like to use]
[b]Custom or Pre-Designed:[/b] [Specify whether you will be designing your own setup or using a pre-designed setup. If designing your own, submit the setup to the Listmod following the instructions in the Review requirements section above. If using a pre-designed setup, please select one of the listed from the queue post below. You you may ask who designed the available setups.]
[b]Backup/Co-Mod:[/b] [See backup/co-moderator requirements section above. Your backup/co-mod must qualify to run the game on their own and be prepared to take over running the game in the event you are unable to continue running it.]

[b]Player Experience:[/b] [Link a completed played game as required according to the Experience requirements section.]
[b]Moderating Experience:[/b] [Link as many moderated games as are required according to the Experience requirements section.]
[b]Current Modding Commitments:[/b] [Are there any other games you are currently running or have in queue?]

[b]Alt Policy:[/b] [Indicate whether you will require alts to disclose the identity of their main account to you]
[b]Playerlist Policy:[/b] [Indicate whether WOTM or WOTC will be in effect, and how you will treat blacklists]
[Reminder: Normal games cannot have restrictions on player experience requirements and cannot have hydras.]

[b]Deadlines:[/b] [What Day/Night deadlines will you use for your game?]
[b]Prod Timer:[/b] [Length of time between posts that will result in a player being prodded?]

[b]Other:[/b] [Is there any other information players should know about your game?]
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Sun Sep 03, 2023 4:58 pm

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Queue Info


Moderator Queue

RH 17p Large (In review)
Skygazer 16p Large (In review)
T3 13p Mini (passed review)
Alianna 9p Micro (in review)

Pre-Designed Setups
  • 8p Regular micro, designed by TemporalLich
  • 9p Complex micro, designed by Datisi
  • 9p Complex micro, designed by RH9
  • 13p Regular mini, designed by TemporalLich
  • 15p Simple large, designed by Ausuka
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Sun Sep 03, 2023 5:01 pm

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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Sun Sep 03, 2023 5:01 pm

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Egoing
GTKAS: 2022, 2024

v/la every weekend

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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Sun Sep 03, 2023 5:04 pm

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ego 3
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Sun Sep 03, 2023 5:08 pm

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Confirm /in for t3
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Sun Sep 03, 2023 5:11 pm

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/in for the next mini, please.
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Sun Sep 03, 2023 5:14 pm

Post by camelCasedSnivy »

confirmed in
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Sun Sep 03, 2023 5:18 pm

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Thank god the Large filled.

Confirming for both Mini and Large.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Sun Sep 03, 2023 5:29 pm

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ego
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Sun Sep 03, 2023 6:14 pm

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/confirm large
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Sun Sep 03, 2023 6:54 pm

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Ego~
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Sun Sep 03, 2023 7:42 pm

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/confirm large
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Sun Sep 03, 2023 8:00 pm

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Ego
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Sun Sep 03, 2023 10:17 pm

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/in mini
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:50 am

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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:42 am

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Hooray for the large!
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:25 am

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/confirm in T3
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:43 am

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/confirm T3
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Mon Sep 04, 2023 4:13 am

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/confirm T3
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:50 am

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/in next mini
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