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Post Post #2800 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 6:40 am

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In post 2756, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2740, Cook wrote:
In post 2735, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2731, Cook wrote: ...there's no chance there's two mafia left right
2 wolves maybe, but not 2 mafia
y'think wolves would be popular enough for that?
Perhaps, but I mainly think 2 mafia (which means 5 total to start) would never pass
btw for everyone stating the obvious but

Read iten flip
There is wolf pt

Means theres a wolf at least
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Post Post #2801 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 6:42 am

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i forgot about that lmao
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Post Post #2802 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 6:43 am

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In post 2760, Cook wrote:
In post 2758, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2755, Cook wrote:
In post 2752, Elements wrote:
In post 2751, Cook wrote:
In post 2747, Elements wrote: does it mean we could potentially force the kill on you?
then no, you didn't see it

okay, let's assume there's
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(eiralox) or someone with an extra kill, doesn't really matter how they got there

we vote out ZZZX, and then gamma kidnaps me. eiralox shoots gamma, killing both me and her at the same time.

by tomorrow morning, we have:

eiralox (
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) and you (
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)

aliens win
yea, that is what I saw

I'm thinking Gamma will target between me and eira
that way you are the only safe kill
seems solid

gamma what do you think of elements' plan
In post 2735, Gamma Emerald wrote: nothing, i'm just pinging it
???
target between elements and eiralox, but don’t tell us which

forces the kill onto me
I,ve never read this page even

Yall know how pgo works right

If gamma is town kidnap that means 2 town deaths, elements scum kills u scum wins
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Post Post #2803 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 6:44 am

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In post 2801, Cook wrote: i forgot about that lmao
Yeah its cool took me too long to realize d3 btw so common thought it seems
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Post Post #2804 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 6:47 am

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Or read that page but just missed that above bit

I think me talking with gamma next few days is important maybe
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Post Post #2805 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 6:50 am

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In post 2802, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2760, Cook wrote:
In post 2758, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2755, Cook wrote:
In post 2752, Elements wrote:
In post 2751, Cook wrote:
In post 2747, Elements wrote: does it mean we could potentially force the kill on you?
then no, you didn't see it

okay, let's assume there's
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we vote out ZZZX, and then gamma kidnaps me. eiralox shoots gamma, killing both me and her at the same time.

by tomorrow morning, we have:

eiralox (
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) and you (
Town
)

aliens win
yea, that is what I saw

I'm thinking Gamma will target between me and eira
that way you are the only safe kill
seems solid

gamma what do you think of elements' plan
In post 2735, Gamma Emerald wrote: nothing, i'm just pinging it
???
target between elements and eiralox, but don’t tell us which

forces the kill onto me
I,ve never read this page even

Yall know how pgo works right

If gamma is town kidnap that means 2 town deaths, elements scum kills u scum wins
the thought was wifom i think

let's back it up though. ignore the kidnapper. to win, we need to kill scum today

as long as we can find one scum we can realistically find the other one, 33% chance or so
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Post Post #2806 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 6:52 am

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Or only gamma dies visiting me action resolution noob
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Post Post #2807 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 6:53 am

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In post 2803, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2801, Cook wrote: i forgot about that lmao
Yeah its cool took me too long to realize d3 btw so common thought it seems
who proc'd the pt-positive check on itinerants
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Post Post #2808 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 6:53 am

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In post 2806, Eiralox wrote: Or only gamma dies visiting me action resolution noob
what do you mean?
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Post Post #2809 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:00 am

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In post 2805, Cook wrote:


the thought was wifom i think

let's back it up though. ignore the kidnapper. to win, we need to kill scum today

as long as we can find one scum we can realistically find the other one, 33% chance or so
agreed but not really into mafia rn so becoming more of a town burden here but the last thing this game needs is another replace so im sticking with it

Im voting zzzx so the first 33 is hundreds for me. And unless theres some whacy role left i should still have my shot so on if i have to choose between gamma and elements and choose wrong theres a chance?

Dont wanna choose wrong. Fears rn are sr-ing elements cos theyre seemingly sus of me
And sr-ing gamma because i convince myself shes pocketing me

I could have taken either one of those paths already but i guess at least this day isnt dead does make it abit easier for me to have data to sort elements on maybe. Cos elements voted wolves and scum with me and gamma really felt town.

So eh tbh im so lazy and bored kinda hoped u could solve them :lol:
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Post Post #2810 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:02 am

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In post 2808, Cook wrote:
In post 2806, Eiralox wrote: Or only gamma dies visiting me action resolution noob
what do you mean?
Im an action resolution noob. If gamma visits and i kill her do i still die or does the kidnap fail.

Not important just realized i dont know
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Post Post #2811 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:05 am

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In post 2807, Cook wrote:
In post 2803, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2801, Cook wrote: i forgot about that lmao
Yeah its cool took me too long to realize d3 btw so common thought it seems
who proc'd the pt-positive check on itinerants
Yeah i believed iten in scum pt lel
After that thought hey maybe lone wolf
Then read flip and knew
And unorthocop having to find only 1 wolf highly unlikely
I can see the last scum maybe having a role lik itenerants vip
Maybe not, maybe 2 much scum power then?

Zzzxx has a point on bulletproof maybe
But can imag8ne there being just a goon
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Post Post #2812 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:12 am

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In post 2798, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2793, ZZZX wrote:
In post 2785, Eiralox wrote: ...
they not town, d1 votes make this obvious
...

How so?
In post 2793, ZZZX wrote: ... If you think I am wrong, or my explanation is inadequate, or if you can be happy to provide a better explanation than "You are wolf" and "Day 1 shows it clearly" without details, I am happy to get into a conversation, until then, that's all I have to say regarding this.
just not into arguing anymore

between elements gamma and you i'm voting you that's it

sorry u had to type all that

but fmpov you're already sorted, aligned with itenerants. don't need to argue that for myself. and don't really care how others act anymore tbh i'm over this basically just want the game to end atp

Not anymore? We didn't even have a talk, or any discussion about it. So you admit that your read on me is just bogus? Fair enough.

Last I checked, you aren't confirmed town nor even close to that, if Cook, who is the closest to that, said it, I can somehow make sense of it, but you are basically saying you have it sorted and you aren't trying to win by convincing others into your point, or by verifying that information?

Sorry, I don't buy that.
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Post Post #2813 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:13 am

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In post 2799, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2795, Cook wrote:
either way, NM totally would have picked those roles, that's something NM would definitely do
yeah i still think N_M got a vannila'd role at least

elements was town in the single scum game i played here
and i did drama bus the hell out of bbt there
and i did expect that you were voting me based on 'eira didnt hammer bingle' or such but it seems i was wrong
but me expecting it to come from u means i shouldnt take elements sussing me on it as scum indic

my only problem rn is im suspecting another scum
if there is has to be gamma and elements
and i ended d3 having heavy town feels on both
so
i can easily fall to bias trap and convince myself that someone's scum if they ain't
been pretty on point this game but know my luck doesn't always last
still scum cant really kill me so.... meh

maybe i should just vote zzzx and worry about this bs d5
There are definitely roles in grandest idea that can probably kill through the PGO, just so you know.
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Post Post #2814 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:13 am

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In post 2800, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2756, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2740, Cook wrote:
In post 2735, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2731, Cook wrote: ...there's no chance there's two mafia left right
2 wolves maybe, but not 2 mafia
y'think wolves would be popular enough for that?
Perhaps, but I mainly think 2 mafia (which means 5 total to start) would never pass
btw for everyone stating the obvious but

Read iten flip
There is wolf pt

Means theres a wolf at least
That's a good point
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Post Post #2815 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:15 am

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In post 2802, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2760, Cook wrote:
In post 2758, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2755, Cook wrote:
In post 2752, Elements wrote:
In post 2751, Cook wrote:
In post 2747, Elements wrote: does it mean we could potentially force the kill on you?
then no, you didn't see it

okay, let's assume there's
3
Town
(me you gamma),
1
Mafia
(ZZZX for this exercise), and an
Alien
(eiralox) or someone with an extra kill, doesn't really matter how they got there

we vote out ZZZX, and then gamma kidnaps me. eiralox shoots gamma, killing both me and her at the same time.

by tomorrow morning, we have:

eiralox (
Alien
) and you (
Town
)

aliens win
yea, that is what I saw

I'm thinking Gamma will target between me and eira
that way you are the only safe kill
seems solid

gamma what do you think of elements' plan
In post 2735, Gamma Emerald wrote: nothing, i'm just pinging it
???
target between elements and eiralox, but don’t tell us which

forces the kill onto me
I,ve never read this page even

Yall know how pgo works right

If gamma is town kidnap that means 2 town deaths, elements scum kills u scum wins
Kidnap can also not be used, or be used on scum, why are we assuming the worst only?

If we hit scum today, kidnap can be used for a 50-50 on scum, or simply be not used since the chance of bulletproof means it might not be worth it with the way things are.
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Post Post #2816 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:15 am

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In post 2810, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2808, Cook wrote:
In post 2806, Eiralox wrote: Or only gamma dies visiting me action resolution noob
what do you mean?
Im an action resolution noob. If gamma visits and i kill her do i still die or does the kidnap fail.

Not important just realized i dont know
kills generally don't stop other actions. in some action resolutions, role/alignment changes are about the only thing that can be stopped by a kill without a modifier.
In post 2811, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2807, Cook wrote:
In post 2803, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2801, Cook wrote: i forgot about that lmao
Yeah its cool took me too long to realize d3 btw so common thought it seems
who proc'd the pt-positive check on itinerants
Yeah i believed iten in scum pt lel
After that thought hey maybe lone wolf
Then read flip and knew
And unorthocop having to find only 1 wolf highly unlikely
I can see the last scum maybe having a role lik itenerants vip
Maybe not, maybe 2 much scum power then?

Zzzxx has a point on bulletproof maybe
But can imag8ne there being just a goon
i think solo scum still get a PT fwiw but the double kill confirms there's another one imo

unorthocop isn't really a helpful role to find wolves though. see, Alternate Mafia is an actual faction. it's flavored like another family of the mafia. it gets found by unorthocop, like how cop finds mafia
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Post Post #2817 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:15 am

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In post 2815, ZZZX wrote: Kidnap can also not be used, or be used on scum, why are we assuming the worst only?

If we hit scum today, kidnap can be used for a 50-50 on scum, or simply be not used since the chance of bulletproof means it might not be worth it with the way things are.
ya true, we need to find two scum today if we're doing that though
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Post Post #2818 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:16 am

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and whats more be willing to stake the game on it

hope for the best, prepare for the worst, yknow
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Post Post #2819 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:16 am

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In post 2809, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2805, Cook wrote:


the thought was wifom i think

let's back it up though. ignore the kidnapper. to win, we need to kill scum today

as long as we can find one scum we can realistically find the other one, 33% chance or so
agreed but not really into mafia rn so becoming more of a town burden here but the last thing this game needs is another replace so im sticking with it

Im voting zzzx so the first 33 is hundreds for me. And unless theres some whacy role left i should still have my shot so on if i have to choose between gamma and elements and choose wrong theres a chance?

Dont wanna choose wrong. Fears rn are sr-ing elements cos theyre seemingly sus of me
And sr-ing gamma because i convince myself shes pocketing me

I could have taken either one of those paths already but i guess at least this day isnt dead does make it abit easier for me to have data to sort elements on maybe. Cos elements voted wolves and scum with me and gamma really felt town.

So eh tbh im so lazy and bored kinda hoped u could solve them :lol:
You know, I haven't read you enough to make a decision, but both scum in my last game had this EXACT same "ZZZX is definitely scum", without any real reason. Seems to be a common reoccurrence lately. And when I asked them it resulted in the same "Well its obvioous" answer.

I don't like it... or maybe I do, a little ;)
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Post Post #2820 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:17 am

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In post 2817, Cook wrote:
In post 2815, ZZZX wrote: Kidnap can also not be used, or be used on scum, why are we assuming the worst only?

If we hit scum today, kidnap can be used for a 50-50 on scum, or simply be not used since the chance of bulletproof means it might not be worth it with the way things are.
ya true, we need to find two scum today if we're doing that though
True. I'd rather do it classic mafia style, focus on elim'ing scum, and reduce the chance of funky night actions losing the game.
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Post Post #2821 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:18 am

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In post 2812, ZZZX wrote:
In post 2798, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2793, ZZZX wrote:
In post 2785, Eiralox wrote: ...
they not town, d1 votes make this obvious
...

How so?
In post 2793, ZZZX wrote: ... If you think I am wrong, or my explanation is inadequate, or if you can be happy to provide a better explanation than "You are wolf" and "Day 1 shows it clearly" without details, I am happy to get into a conversation, until then, that's all I have to say regarding this.
just not into arguing anymore

between elements gamma and you i'm voting you that's it

sorry u had to type all that

but fmpov you're already sorted, aligned with itenerants. don't need to argue that for myself. and don't really care how others act anymore tbh i'm over this basically just want the game to end atp

Not anymore? We didn't even have a talk, or any discussion about it. So you admit that your read on me is just bogus? Fair enough.

Last I checked, you aren't confirmed town nor even close to that, if Cook, who is the closest to that, said it, I can somehow make sense of it, but you are basically saying you have it sorted and you aren't trying to win by convincing others into your point, or by verifying that information?

Sorry, I don't buy that.
Im voting you today. Beyond that try and convince others not to vote you i guess. Or vote me and hope for the best.

Imo ur best play is voting elements and trying to get cook to do so as well. Gamma seems interested.

For your own sake lol cos im not really replying to more of this so save ur time :good:
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Post Post #2822 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:32 am

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In post 2821, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2812, ZZZX wrote:
In post 2798, Eiralox wrote:
In post 2793, ZZZX wrote:
In post 2785, Eiralox wrote: ...
they not town, d1 votes make this obvious
...

How so?
In post 2793, ZZZX wrote: ... If you think I am wrong, or my explanation is inadequate, or if you can be happy to provide a better explanation than "You are wolf" and "Day 1 shows it clearly" without details, I am happy to get into a conversation, until then, that's all I have to say regarding this.
just not into arguing anymore

between elements gamma and you i'm voting you that's it

sorry u had to type all that

but fmpov you're already sorted, aligned with itenerants. don't need to argue that for myself. and don't really care how others act anymore tbh i'm over this basically just want the game to end atp

Not anymore? We didn't even have a talk, or any discussion about it. So you admit that your read on me is just bogus? Fair enough.

Last I checked, you aren't confirmed town nor even close to that, if Cook, who is the closest to that, said it, I can somehow make sense of it, but you are basically saying you have it sorted and you aren't trying to win by convincing others into your point, or by verifying that information?

Sorry, I don't buy that.
Im voting you today. Beyond that try and convince others not to vote you i guess. Or vote me and hope for the best.

Imo ur best play is voting elements and trying to get cook to do so as well. Gamma seems interested.

For your own sake lol cos im not really replying to more of this so save ur time :good:
I have one goal, and one goal only, catching scum. And your posts clearly indicate that we are not sharing the same goal. And you are refusing to engage in a conversation.

You know, I will bite

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Post Post #2823 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 8:38 am

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In post 2804, Eiralox wrote: Or read that page but just missed that above bit

I think me talking with gamma next few days is important maybe
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Post Post #2824 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2023 8:41 am

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I tuned out ZZZX after like 2 posts but he is my pick for who to vote out here
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