Mini Normal 2311 | FIN

[JacksonVirgo]

If I could just ask y’all to make your final arguments for me in the next day, that would help me a lot.

I mean I've made my arguments, if you want more we should discuss. I don't really have time to keep making large chonky messages

[JacksonVirgo]

I will say, Jackson did say that they had to go help their mom in an area without signal/wi-fi around this point, so I’m unsure about this being able to be reasonably associated with anything but legitimate V/LA—at least, I think assuming it’s V/LA before anything malicious is probably best—so we can’t really take the lack of posts here as proof of anything, I think.

Also I did have access to internet, I just didn't care for this game over looking after her and my other priorities so I put this on the down-low and just skimmed whenever I had a spare moment but same difference overall

[JacksonVirgo]

Jackson was rather weird about my theory, which could be due to frustration or something along those lines, but I also have to consider how it could also an active attempt to discourage a real solve. Interestingly, multiple people (including me) noted the possibility of a double-Neighbor scumteam D2 after the massclaim, so it must be at least something notable.

Also back to this, of course I'd discourage talk about a double wolf scum-team. I honestly felt it was a really dumb train of thought, mostly biased because I am Town but I don't want to discuss stuff that I know to be false outright. It doesn't benefit me. It doesn't help me solve, in fact given the state of the game I felt it dangerous for people to discuss it as I don't want to die in Limlo and the bringing it up repeatedly was actually really scary for me and kinda felt like it took my entire game and threw it out the window to discuss this possible mech-path that is so far-fetched to me.

[JacksonVirgo]

Double wolf, ugh. Double neighbour.

[AnimatedWiz]

I think in that case, I just have to be honest and vote here.

Jackson, I feel like you keep antagonizing me, even when I’m confirmed as a Villager. You don’t just disagree with my theories—you say I’m in dreamland and that there’s no possibility of me being right. You say you’re just one of the greatest scum players out there, but also that you had very little options this game as a Villager, and I can’t really sort you out. If you really want me to believe you, I can’t say it’s working.

My gut says it’s you… and I really hope it’s right.

VOTE: Jackson Virgo.

[Alianna]

I'm going to lock this now because I'm evil and I like torturing the players with suspense.
bianco should be online to post the flip around...I don't actually know when, have even more suspense.

[biancospino]

See, I

was

sleeping, but apparently I randomly waken up now so you get lucky this time and I'll cut Alianna's torture short

[biancospino]

Votecount

FINAL

With 3 alive, it took 2 to hammer.

Votes

JacksonVirgo (2 =

EXECUTED

):

ZZZX (892), AnimatedWiz (929)

ZZZX (1):

JacksonVirgo (906)

~~ A win condition has been achieved ~~

[biancospino]

JacksonVirgo was executed!

They were a

Spoiler: suspence

Spoiler: more suspence

Spoiler: even more suspence

Spoiler: drum roll

Werewolf Neighbor disloyal combined Mailman Rolestopper.

Spoiler: role PM

Welcome to Mini Normal 2311, JacksonVirgo!

You are a

Werewolf Neighbor disloyal combined Mailman Rolestopper

. You know that the Wolves' faction is composed of you and BlueSnakelet.

You have the following factional abilities:

• Wolf chat
  — you can talk with the other members of the Wolves' faction at any time here.
  
• Wolf kill
  — each night, if no other member of the Wolves' faction use this ability, you may target a living player. Assuming no interference with your action, your target will die.

You have the following nonfactional active abilities:

• disloyal combined Mailman Rolestopper
  — each night, you may target a living player. Assuming no interference with your action, the moderator will anonymously send your target a message of your choice (specified when you submit this action), and all other actions targeting your target will fail as if roleblocked.
  (N.B.: the message you send will be delivered in such a way to make it clear that it comes from a Mailman.)
  This action will fail as if roleblocked if it targets a player who belongs to your faction.

You have the following nonfactional passive abilities:

• Neighbor
  — you are in a Neighborhood with BlueSnakelet. You can talk with them at any time here.

You win when at least one member of the Wolves' faction is alive and all members of the Village faction are dead, or when nothing can prevent the same.

The Game Thread is located here.
Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role, or by posting the same in the Wolves' PT.

[biancospino]

The game ends with a victory of the

Spoiler:

Village

Congratulations to the team of

Spoiler:

AnimatedWiz, ZZZX and postumously Not_Mafia, Hu Tao, Passenger, TheHoldSteady, Random Nurse.

Setup, role PMs, night actions, PTs incoming.

The gamethread is now open for post-game discussion.

[JacksonVirgo]

F

[JacksonVirgo]

I wanna preface by saying I'm proud of you for winning, you did a great job throughout the entire game and it was pretty tough all things considered but I am a little frustrated personally that you ended up voting me based on a personality thing rather than anything about the game lol. Which is probably something to work on anyway but like I don't really care how confirmed you are, I'm not going to treat you like you're some person to be worshipped but oh well, it is what it is. Congrats on the win Town <3

May have worded some frustrations in the scum chat throughout this game but it was super fun and holy shit I love this setup

[AnimatedWiz]

I... I wasn't asking to be worshipped or anything. I just wanted to be treated like I knew what I was talking about... and in the end, I think I mostly did? I'm glad I was able to figure out that I was being manipulated in the end, and that we were able to finish such a close game. Thanks to everyone for playing with me! c:

[Random Nurse]

Good game.

I set up Ani as best I could.

[JacksonVirgo]

RN I wanna ask, did you SR me and just wanted to avoid getting shot?

[Random Nurse]

RN I wanna ask, did you SR me and just wanted to avoid getting shot?

What do you mean?

[Random Nurse]

I had hard Scumread ZZZX.

[JacksonVirgo]

RN I wanna ask, did you SR me and just wanted to avoid getting shot?

What do you mean?

Maybe I was wrong but it felt like you were SRing me but didn't want me to think that you were SRing me, so I kept you alive in the final day.

[JacksonVirgo]

I had hard Scumread ZZZX.

Oh I see, I was wrong then. Lol, hilarious

[Random Nurse]

RN I wanna ask, did you SR me and just wanted to avoid getting shot?

What do you mean?

Maybe I was wrong but it felt like you were SRing me but didn't want me to think that you were SRing me, so I kept you alive in the final day.

?

But I was NK'd just before the final Day.

[biancospino]

All role PMs:

Spoiler: Bluesnakelet/the worst

Welcome to Mini Normal 2311, BlueSnakelet!

You are a

Werewolf Neighbor Informed Complex Follower

. You know that the Wolves' faction is composed of you and heipizhu4.

You have the following factional abilities:

• Wolf chat
  — you can talk with the other members of the Wolves' faction at any time viewtopic.php?t=91569.
  
• Wolf kill
  — each night, if no other member of the Wolves' faction use this ability, you may target a living player. Assuming no interference with your action, your target will die.

You have the following nonfactional active abilities:

• complex Follower
  — each night, you may target a living player. Assuming no interference with your action, you will discover what kind of actions your target performed this night. This action will fail as if roleblocked if it targets a Vanilla player.

You have the following nonfactional passive abilities:

• Neighbor
  — you are in a Neighborhood with heipizhu4. You can talk with them at any time viewtopic.php?f=90&t=91570.
  
• Informed
  — you know that the following sentences are true:
  • There is at least one backup Neighbor.
    
  • There are no Neighborhoods other than yours.

You win when at least one member of the Wolves' faction is alive and all members of the Village faction are dead, or when nothing can prevent the same.

The Game Thread is located viewtopic.php?t=91568.
Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role, or by posting the same in the Wolves' PT.

Spoiler: heipizhu4/JacksonVirgo

Welcome to Mini Normal 2311, heipizhu4!

You are a

Werewolf Neighbor disloyal combined Mailman Rolestopper

. You know that the Wolves' faction is composed of you and BlueSnakelet.

You have the following factional abilities:

• Wolf chat
  — you can talk with the other members of the Wolves' faction at any time viewtopic.php?t=91569.
  
• Wolf kill
  — each night, if no other member of the Wolves' faction use this ability, you may target a living player. Assuming no interference with your action, your target will die.

You have the following nonfactional active abilities:

• disloyal combined Mailman Rolestopper
  — each night, you may target a living player. Assuming no interference with your action, the moderator will anonymously send your target a message of your choice (specified when you submit this action), and all other actions targeting your target will fail as if roleblocked.
  (N.B.: the message you send will be delivered in such a way to make it clear that it comes from a Mailman.)
  This action will fail as if roleblocked if it targets a player who belongs to your faction.

You have the following nonfactional passive abilities:

• Neighbor
  — you are in a Neighborhood with BlueSnakelet. You can talk with them at any time viewtopic.php?f=90&t=91570.

You win when at least one member of the Wolves' faction is alive and all members of the Village faction are dead, or when nothing can prevent the same.

The Game Thread is located viewtopic.php?t=91568.
Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role, or by posting the same in the Wolves' PT.

Spoiler: Passenger

Welcome to Mini Normal 2311, Passenger!

You are a

Village backup Neighbor

.

You have no active abilities.

You have the following passive abilities:

• backup Neighbor
  — the first time a non-backup Neighbor dies, you will be added to their Neighborhood.

You win when at least one member of the Village faction is alive and all members of the Wolves' faction are dead.

The Game Thread is located viewtopic.php?t=91568.
Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Spoiler: Random Nurse

Welcome to Mini Normal 2311, Random Nurse!

You are a

Village lazy TrafficAnalyst

.

You have the following active abilities:

• lazy TrafficAnalyst
  — each night, if at least two anti-town players were alive at the start of the night, you may target a living player. Assuming no interference with your action, you will discover whether or not that player is able to privately communicate with another living player. If this action fails, you will receive a "No Result" PM.

You have no passive abilities.

You win when at least one member of the Village faction is alive and all members of the Wolves' faction are dead.

The Game Thread is located viewtopic.php?t=91568.
Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Spoiler: TheHoldStead

Welcome to Mini Normal 2311, TheHoldSteadyù!

You are a

Village indecisive Doctor

.

You have the following active abilities:

• indecisive Doctor
  — each night, you may target a living player. Assuming no interference with your action, your target will be protected from one kill that Night. You cannot target the same player two Nights in a row.

You have no passive abilities.

You win when at least one member of the Village faction is alive and all members of the Wolves' faction are dead.

The Game Thread is located viewtopic.php?t=91568.
Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Spoiler: ZZZX

Welcome to Mini Normal 2311, ZZZX!

You are a

Villager

.

You have no active abilities.

You have no passive abilities.

You win when at least one member of the Village faction is alive and all members of the Wolves' faction are dead.

The Game Thread is located viewtopic.php?t=91568.
Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Spoiler: AnimatedWiz

Welcome to Mini Normal 2311, AnimatedWiz!

You are a

Villager

.

You have no active abilities.

You have no passive abilities.

You win when at least one member of the Village faction is alive and all members of the Wolves' faction are dead.

The Game Thread is located viewtopic.php?t=91568.
Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Spoiler: Not_Mafia

Welcome to Mini Normal 2311, Not_Mafia!

You are a

Villager

.

You have no active abilities.

You have no passive abilities.

You win when at least one member of the Village faction is alive and all members of the Wolves' faction are dead.

The Game Thread is located viewtopic.php?t=91568.
Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Spoiler: Hu Tao

Welcome to Mini Normal 2311, Hu Tao!

You are a

Villager

.

You have no active abilities.

You have no passive abilities.

You win when at least one member of the Village faction is alive and all members of the Wolves' faction are dead.

The Game Thread is located viewtopic.php?t=91568.
Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

[biancospino]

Deaths

• Day 1
  --
  Not_Mafia
  , with 1 wolf on wagon
  
• Night 1
  --
  Hu Tao
  , mauled by a wolf
  
• Day 2
  --
  Passenger
  , with 1 wolf on wagon
  
• Night 2
  --
  TheHoldSteady
  , mauled by a wolf
  
• Day 3
  --
  the worst
  , with 0 wolves on wagon
  
• Night 3
  --
  Random Nurse
  , mauled by a wolf
  
• Day 4
  --
  JacksonVirgo
  , with 0 wolves on wagon

Actions

Night 1:

• RN
  T.ANALIZES
  HT
  --> cannot comm
  
• THS
  DOCS
  Wiz
  --> ok
  
• heip
  KILLS
  HT
  --> HT dies
  
• heip
  MAIL&RS
  RN
  --> RN receives "I'm a mailman. Please try to breadcrumb "Got it" next day so that I can comfirm that you copy this"
  
• Blue
  FOLLOWS
  Pass
  --> went nowhere!

Night 2:

• RN
  T.ANALIZES
  Wiz
  --> cannot comm
  
• THS
  DOCS
  RN
  --> ok
  
• JV
  KILLS
  THS
  --> THS dies
  
• JV
  MAIL&RS
  ZX
  --> ZX receives "Say a math equation in your first post to secretly confirm you received this message"
  
• tw
  FOLLOWS
  Wiz
  --> fail!

Night 3:

• JV
  KILLS
  RN
  --> RN dies
  
• JV
  MAIL&RS
  ZX
  --> ZX receives ""

[JacksonVirgo]

What was the purpose of the Mailman?

[biancospino]

Links

Mod PT:

viewtopic.php?t=91567

Werewolf Lair:

viewtopic.php?t=91569
Elm Street: viewtopic.php?t=91570

Cemetery:

viewtopic.php?t=91571
AnimatedWiz's Notes: viewtopic.php?t=91575
JacksonVirgo's Notes: viewtopic.php?t=91659 (unreleased)

I will release wolf/hood PTs in the morning/first afternoon; if anyone has redactions, please tell me.
Notes PT owners can release them themselves if they want to.

[biancospino]

What was the purpose of the Mailman?

None.

I'm strongly against the concept that every element of a setup must have a specific purpose. Specifically for the reason that, if it was so, it would become significantly easier to outguess the mod on the setup.

You did a great job at outguessing me in this game regardless thou...