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Post Post #0 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2023 8:45 pm

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Open 884 - Another Newbie Game


Moderator: heipizhu4
Backup mod: DragonEater70


Player List:
  1. Dunnstral (SE)
  2. Dannflor (SE)
  3. Gamma Emerald (SE)
  4. Mr.K (Newbie)
  5. Infinity 324 (SE)
  6. OopsieDaisy (Newbie)
  7. Cook** (SE)
  8. KittyTacky** (SE)
  9. Purplemango (Newbie)
Living Players:
  • Dannflor
  • KittyTacky
Dead:
  • Cook, a
    Vannila Townie
    , executed on Day 1
  • OopsieDaisy, a
    Vanilla Townie
    , killed on Night 1
  • Infinity 324, a
    Mafia Goon
    , executed on Day 2
  • Mr.K, a
    Town Tracker
    , killed on Night 2
  • Purplemango, a
    Vannila Townie
    , executed on Day 3
  • Gamma Emerald, a
    Vannila Townie
    , killed on Night 3
  • Dunnstral, a
    Mafia Rolecop
    , executed on Day 4
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2023 8:46 pm

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Rules


Inspired by
Steal from
Equinox's, Glork's and Ether's rulesets.

important bit
  • The deadline is 7 days
  • Majority eliminations
  • 36 hours before prod, 24 hours before replacement
  • Bah posts allowed (limit: 1, free of game related content)
  • I have some unusual rules about animated GIFs, tiny text, and prodging. Scroll down for details.
  • Don’t be a dick

  1. Follow all site rules.

  2. Mod colour
    – My mod colour is
    #8CE600
    ; don't use it.
  3. Behaviour
    - Don’t be a dick. This is a heated game but toxicity will not be tolerated. Attack the play not the player. If your fellow players tell you to stop, you must stop. If you do not stop, I will tell you to stop. If you still do not stop, you will be force-replaced. Asking people to stop voting you or to stop scumhunting you entirely doesn't count for this rule and you may find yourself eliminated if you try it.
  4. Don't talk about ongoing games
    - You may not talk to each other about this game outside of threads I have created for this purpose. You may not talk about other ongoing games in this thread.
  5. Animated GIFs
    - are of the devil, but they are permitted behind spoilers if clearly labelled as such.
  6. Tiny text
    - is also of the devil, keep it 70+ please.
  7. Provable randomness
    - is against the rules. Saying that you rolled a dice is fine, using dice tags or random.org is not.
  8. Claiming scum
    - by yourself is fine. Claiming scum with another player is against the rules.
  9. Cryptography
    - is forbidden. Breadcrumbing is okay.
  10. Confirmation
    - You have about 48 hours to confirm your role and your alignment by PM. Game will start sooner if everyone confirms. Posting in a private topic counts as confirmation.
  11. Days
    - All days have 7 days. Extensions may be granted if there are replacements.
  12. Activity
    - You must post at least once every 36 hours or I will Prod you. You then have 24 hours to post in the game thread or I will replace you. If you come back before I find a replacement, you can stay. If you haven't posted in the 24 hours before the thread is locked for night, you must reply to the night start PM or you will be replaced during the night.
  13. Vacation/Limited Access
    If you need to be absent for longer than this, you should declare
    V/LA
    in bold in the thread like this: [
    b]
    @Mod: I will be v/la until Thursday
    [
    /b]. While you are V/LA, you will be nudged once every 54 hours. Two nudges equals one prod. If you have not posted game advancing content in 5 days, regardless of V/LA status, you will be replaced.
  14. Prodging
    - A naked "prod dodge" does not reset the prod timer. To avoid being prodded/replaced for inactivity, include some game advancing content in your prodges, such as "got prodded; xxxx is still scum."
  15. Quoting
    - You may not quote (or copy paste) any private information into the thread, including your role PM and any mod communication.
  16. Voting
    - Votes must be in bold in the format VOTE: heipizhu4 or
    Vote: heipizhu4
    . Strong preference for using vote tags instead of bold tags. Unvotes are nice but not required. If I think it’s a vote, it’s a vote, no tricks. Type [
    v]heipizhu4[
    /v] to vote and [
    uv]heipizhu4[
    /uv] to unvote.
  17. Elimination
    - Days end early when a simple majority of players (50% of living players + 1 rounded down) vote to eliminate somebody. If a majority is not reached at deadline or if a majority of the players vote for no elimination, the day will end without an elimination. At evens, 50% is sufficient for no elimination.
  18. Twilight
    - Begins when a majority is reached and lasts until I lock the thread. You're still alive until I flip you so you can talk in any game threads you have access to until then, but no votes or unvotes will be counted.
  19. Night
    - Night lasts at least 48 hours. The night phase can be shortened if every living player -- even those with no night actions -- agrees to it and if I'm not busy.
  20. Notes PT
    - Let me know if you want a private thread to store your thoughts and feedback for the other players. This thread will be made public immediately after the game. You may draft posts in your notes PT but you may not talk about your notes PT in public. You definitely may not use the notes PT to demonstrate that you've had a town mindset in private all along; just put your town mindset in public to begin with and keep your notes to yourself.
  21. Play to win
    - this particular game, not some future one, and keep it fun!
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2023 8:54 pm

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Newbie Setup
Newbie Setup

NewD3 (as designed by RadiantCowbells):

ABC
Mafia
Mafia Roleblocker
Mafia Rolecop
Mafia Goon
Row 1
Town Cop and Town Doctor
Town Tracker and Town Friendly Neighbor
Town Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2
Town Jailkeeper and Town Tracker
Town Jailkeeper and Town Friendly Neighbor
Town Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3
Town Mason and Town Mason
Town Tracker and Town Doctor
Town Mason and Town Mason

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role. The remaining six roles will be filled in by
one mafia goon
and
five vanilla townies
appropriately, to create a
2-mafia
and
7-town
setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects.
Mafia Roleblocker
action takes precedence over a
Town Jailkeeper
action should that apply.

Mafia are able to communicate in their Private Topic at all times.

Spoiler: Full Setups
Column A & Row 1:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 2:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 3:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 1:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 2:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 3:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column C & Row 1:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Cop, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 2:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Jailkeeper, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 3:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5

Spoiler: Sample Role PMs
Vanilla TownieWelcome, [Player], to Open 884!

You are a
Vanilla Townie
.

You have no special abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town JailkeeperWelcome, [Player], to Open 884!

You are a
Town Jailkeeper
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town CopWelcome, [Player], to Open 884!

You are a
Town Cop
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are
Town
or
Mafia
. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town MasonWelcome, [Player], to Open 884!

You are a
Town Mason
.

You know that [Player] is Town-aligned. You also share a Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You have no active abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Town TrackerWelcome, [Player], to Open 884!

You are a
Town Tracker
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town DoctorWelcome, [Player], to Open 884!

You are a
Town Doctor
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Friendly NeighborWelcome, [Player], to Open 884!

You are a
Town Friendly Neighbor
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be sent a message informing them that you are Town-aligned.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Mafia GoonWelcome, [Player], to Open 884!

You are a
Mafia Goon
.

You and your partner, [Player], share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RolecopWelcome, [Player], to Open 884!

You are a
Mafia Rolecop
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment.
Vanilla Townies
and
Mafia Goons
will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You and your partner, [Player], share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a role cop in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RoleblockerWelcome, [Player], to Open 884!

You are a
Mafia Roleblocker
.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

You and your partner, [Player], share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2023 8:56 pm

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Introduction and Tips
Thanks to Irrelephant11 and others for their contributions to these tips.


Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):

-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)


Key Concepts and Tips


Activity

Try to check in at least once a day.
Besides the activity requirements listed in the moderator's original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyone
plays
. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?

Site Meta

Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...

Random Voting Stage (RVS)

Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.

Voting, E-x, and Hammers

E-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from elimination. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at E-1 (1 vote away from an elimination) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that player's elimination. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to eliminate (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see E-2 and E-3 (2 votes away from elimination and 3 votes away from elimination, respectively).

Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being eliminated, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.

Claiming Your Role

It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at E-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.

Do not fake claim a power role as town!
While it may help you avoid getting eliminated, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counterclaiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get eliminated for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.

ELo

ELo is the shortened representation of “Eliminate or Lose.” ELo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to eliminate (“quickhammer”) and win the game.

Conclusion

Mafia is hard!
As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum.
That's okay!
Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".

This is a game.
Have fun!
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:29 pm

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Role PMs have been sent! The game will start when 7/9 comfirmed or when 48 hours have passed, whichever comes first.

Currently, 7/9 have comfirmed.

Timer: (expired on 2023-09-19 16:36:00)
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:39 pm

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Backup mod here!
dannflor is going to put something funny in here eventually
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:15 am

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7 players have comfirmed.
Day 1 starts!
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:21 am

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first!

VOTE: Infinity 234

i know
most
of you. it's good to keep playing newbies, for sure.
Your friendly neighborhood chef and baker. LONG LIVE THE CHEFHAT REBELLION!
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"ya true if you don't play mafia you are probably winning" – Alisae

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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:21 am

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VC 1.0
Vote Count 1.0


Infinity 324 (1): Cook
Not Voting : (8 players)

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-09-24 23:20:00)
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:21 am

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i even sniped the first votecount, wow
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"ya true if you don't play mafia you are probably winning" – Alisae

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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:37 am

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hi

VOTE: gamma
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<3 you are valid

plural system, we may or may not sign
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:41 am

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Hii:)
Why do u vote people who hasn't talk yet?
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:49 am

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generally games start by voting random people to get reactions and stuff
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:51 am

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Hello, hello!

VOTE: Dunnstral
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:55 am

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wild that i'm still listed as a newbie huh. looking forward to playing with everyone here tho, i think the only person i've played with here is kitty so it should be nice to have a clean state rather than kicking the game off instantly with personal metas. not that that's awful either it's just always nice to have a change of pace.

anyways i know one person here so time to latch onto em :3

VOTE: KittyTacky
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2023 5:53 am

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In post 14, OopsieDaisy wrote: wild that i'm still listed as a newbie huh. looking forward to playing with everyone here tho, i think the only person i've played with here is kitty so it should be nice to have a clean state rather than kicking the game off instantly with personal metas. not that that's awful either it's just always nice to have a change of pace.

anyways i know one person here so time to latch onto em :3

VOTE: KittyTacky
turns out this is a lie, my first game here a couple years ago was with cook dang

not that i remember much from it, i played very differently then lol
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2023 6:46 am

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Hello friends and acquaintances!
Let’s have some fun, eh?
VOTE: Dunnstral
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:30 am

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VOTE: gamma

Oopsie minorly towny for a not very self-conscious entrance
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:38 am

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yooo a dr who profile pic, i love that show :]
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:26 am

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@OopsieDaisy: For what reason did you look back at your previous game?

VOTE: Gamma Emerald
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:42 am

Post by OopsieDaisy »

In post 19, Dunnstral wrote: @OopsieDaisy: For what reason did you look back at your previous game?

VOTE: Gamma Emerald
i clicked the first link in cook's signature and it took me straight to that first game i played, which was a bit of a shocker lol.

(would recommend not using that as the game you meta read me on, i played a much more passive and reactionary game which isn't rly my current playstyle at all)
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2023 11:00 am

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that was a wacky game anyhow, but millers are apparently normal i guess?
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2023 12:49 pm

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Yeah that threw me when I learned it, what also threw me was learning that miller was town-only in normal games
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:08 pm

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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:09 pm

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