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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:33 pm

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In post 49, Nautical Dawn wrote:
In post 47, Flavor Leaf wrote: The quicker the better to not let Kitty in this day as much as possible :lol:
Wait, so is the plan to kill Kitty and then say you FN'd Kitty N1?
Yeah. If that doesn’t sound good, keep them alive, act like I weak Friendly’d them, and then get confused as to why it didn’t go through, and then imply a roleblocker.

I think if Enchant gets E-1, we just quick fade this game. E-2 with my vote.
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:38 pm

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In post 50, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 49, Nautical Dawn wrote:
In post 47, Flavor Leaf wrote: The quicker the better to not let Kitty in this day as much as possible :lol:
Wait, so is the plan to kill Kitty and then say you FN'd Kitty N1?
Yeah. If that doesn’t sound good, keep them alive, act like I weak Friendly’d them, and then get confused as to why it didn’t go through, and then imply a roleblocker.

I think if Enchant gets E-1, we just quick fade this game. E-2 with my vote.
I like that plan lol. I think it works as long as Kitty doesn't say anything that would contradict it.
Is it better if I put Enchant to E-1 or if I wait for someone else to do it?
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:44 pm

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Either works. Hammer could be more suspicious, but putting E-1 might scare off Kitty.
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:44 pm

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So pros and cons to both
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:45 pm

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Yeah, my concern is with getting guiltied if I hammer.
E-1 might prolong the day though if people aren't ready to end it, and leaves it in town's hands when they want to do it.
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:48 pm

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In post 54, Nautical Dawn wrote: Yeah, my concern is with getting guiltied if I hammer.
E-1 might prolong the day though if people aren't ready to end it, and leaves it in town's hands when they want to do it.
Mind you, it's not going to be straight cop/doctor.
Still looks sus though.
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:54 pm

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That’s fair.

Guilties aren’t too bad tomorrow, though, you can fight since it’s ELO.

And my role naturally allows me to help you.

Enchant is technically not wrong in their case, but they didn’t let me do it long enough.

Their case can’t be taken seriously because it’s only been one page since day started.

But i noticed when i was posting that i was just mindspilling, which was kind of my point.

So i think they’re right in that I was doing it, and that I am scum, but i was actively doing it on purpose to try to mimic my townie ness.

But they are correct.

I think we have a solid defense barrier, though.


Also, everyone except Skellen checked in, so unless Skellen has a guilty, we’re fine.
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 6:02 pm

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In post 56, Flavor Leaf wrote: That’s fair.

Guilties aren’t too bad tomorrow, though, you can fight since it’s ELO.

And my role naturally allows me to help you.
True, forgot about that.
I may wait a little to see if anyone else jumps on it then.
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 7:12 pm

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One of Enchant’s biggest issues with pushing is that he isn’t trying to convince the town that I’m scum, he’s pushing me like he’s trying to get me to admit I’m scum.

I play by a “idgaf if you scum read me, what you gonna do bout it?” Mentality, and I’m genuine with that. I wanna see what they’re gonna do.

But they don’t build up and make the connection with other players. That’s key.
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:21 pm

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Maybe you can jump on Enchant with a “if they flip town, can reassess Flavor” kinda thing.

Tomorrow, if we do not bus, all 3 townies have to vote the same to kill, so even if i get a vote or one, i just need one townie on my side or one townie on your side, and one mistake ends it.

I will say, we are somewhat tied together, so if one of us go down, it could flip for us, but i think i look like scum possibly with Skellen or Kop too.

(Or if i go down today, Kitty’s the obvious slot to get a free misfade)
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:31 pm

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Well, the angle I pushed in is along the lines of "the only way it's FL is if it's FL/Skellen and it's not FL/Skellen," which may have been a mistake.
I guess I have the "why would I limit my POE like that?" defense if you go down.

I kind of have a plan for how I'm going to jump on Enchant.
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:13 pm

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Every link i've asked for this game has been a game I either played in or modded lol.
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 5:45 am

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Well, no unvote, and Kitty claims to be sheeping you, so things are looking pretty good.
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 6:49 am

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Enchant volunteering to self-hammer is so convenient lol.
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:07 am

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In post 62, Nautical Dawn wrote: Well, no unvote, and Kitty claims to be sheeping you, so things are looking pretty good.
Yeah, i woke up to seeing that. Plan is working.

Nerve wracking, but working.

I wonder if Enchant follows through.
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:16 am

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In post 64, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 62, Nautical Dawn wrote: Well, no unvote, and Kitty claims to be sheeping you, so things are looking pretty good.
Yeah, i woke up to seeing that. Plan is working.

Nerve wracking, but working.

I wonder if Enchant follows through.
I sure hope Enchant follows through...
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:26 am

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Skellen's entry today is looking good for us too.
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:54 am

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Enchant said i only win this one because they’ll continue sheeping me…

That’s…thats the game. Convince people you are town.

It doesn’t matter if one person scum reads you, you need to be able to convince a group of townies that is the case.

There is a case out there on me, but I will admit, it probably does feel incredibly difficult to truly push me here.

But they chose the wrong time to strike, and imo, they needed to solve for who my partner would be more than solve for me to take us down.

The Holdsteady kill in addition to both of us pairing up and being relatively town read by the rest of the game, they had to come for a team, not just me solo.

Question my Kitty read more, question why ND and I are pairing up the way we are.

I’m not saying it’s easy, but other than stating that’s what the read is, you gotta be able to duke it out.

They came after me, but folded when i can take a hit, and come back.

It was also rough because they didn’t have the trust built up after the Bugspray wagon.

It was a hard situation for Enchant, though, definitely they were trying to fight an uphill battle.


Kop and RN not being here right now is actually super good for us and we can push it like an “inconspicuous in their absence” kind of deal.

In a larger game, Enchant path might have worked better, but micro game with this amount of players left, you have to get real close and intimate with everyone and be aware of all the social threads going around.
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:30 am

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Seven minutes past their timer, and no hammer...
I'm starting to get a little concerned.
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:31 am

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I'm surprised no one's questioned us pairing up like this.
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:32 am

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In post 68, Nautical Dawn wrote: Seven minutes past their timer, and no hammer...
I'm starting to get a little concerned.
It’s fine. They don’t look good in this scenario.

I also know RN hates self votes/self vote threatens, so while I’m a little nervous RN teams up with Enchant, we have a defense that they’re teaming up to survive.

Kop and RN not being here is really good for us.

Skellen, I see just voting Enchant if Enchant doesn’t hammer.

To get one of us, 4 of the 5 townies have to be on us, and Kitty/Skellen just aren’t going to right now.
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:34 am

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In post 69, Nautical Dawn wrote: I'm surprised no one's questioned us pairing up like this.
It looks too obvious and more like if one of us are scum, the other got pocketed.

Plus, Kitty looks more like my obv partner right now, but that’s really the one that’s too obv and pocketing.

I think it’s a testament to your play too, though. You can explain everything well, so it comes off townie.
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:36 am

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In post 70, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 68, Nautical Dawn wrote: Seven minutes past their timer, and no hammer...
I'm starting to get a little concerned.
It’s fine. They don’t look good in this scenario.

I also know RN hates self votes/self vote threatens, so while I’m a little nervous RN teams up with Enchant, we have a defense that they’re teaming up to survive.

Kop and RN not being here is really good for us.

Skellen, I see just voting Enchant if Enchant doesn’t hammer.

To get one of us, 4 of the 5 townies have to be on us, and Kitty/Skellen just aren’t going to right now.
Kop is online, I wonder what they're going to do.
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:37 am

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In post 71, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 69, Nautical Dawn wrote: I'm surprised no one's questioned us pairing up like this.
It looks too obvious and more like if one of us are scum, the other got pocketed.

Plus, Kitty looks more like my obv partner right now, but that’s really the one that’s too obv and pocketing.

I think it’s a testament to your play too, though. You can explain everything well, so it comes off townie.
:D
Maybe I think we look scummier than we do because I know we're scum lol.
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:38 am

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There’s warrant in us voting first tomorrow because normally scum wait, but we’ll have to see how it goes.

I’m not opposed if we can switch off Enchant today and just get them tomorrow.

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