Mini Normal 2314 - The Mafia Have a Cop [END]


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Post Post #3425 (ISO) » Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:30 pm

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Fire, one game we will be scum together.

And both make terrible night action decisions together lol.

Gera, you were low key great this game. Your theory last night about Flavor led to me tracking Fire.

Una is fun haha.
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Post Post #3426 (ISO) » Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:31 pm

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i thought initially it was a neutral role but i wasn't thinking too heavily on it when i claimed and i was being very lazy
i didn't think about it later how the role in this kind of setup was sussy
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Post Post #3427 (ISO) » Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:31 pm

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In post 3425, Doctor Drew wrote: Fire, one game we will be scum together.
we were in demon slayer buddy
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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #3428 (ISO) » Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:32 pm

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i lowkey had a minor freakout when someone pointed out that jackson claimed. I had not read majority of day 1 at that point. U would think I would read my predecessor iso to see for claims before i claimed but im that lazy.
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Post Post #3429 (ISO) » Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:41 pm

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In post 3427, Firebringer wrote:
In post 3425, Doctor Drew wrote: Fire, one game we will be scum together.
we were in demon slayer buddy
I meant just you and me.

I still feel like I was just a casual observer of the scum team that game.
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Post Post #3430 (ISO) » Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:50 pm

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Lol Fire, your last few posts in the scum chat are great.
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Post Post #3431 (ISO) » Fri Nov 10, 2023 2:46 pm

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kek xD
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Post Post #3432 (ISO) » Fri Nov 10, 2023 2:47 pm

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fire, im insulted, a privilege)
ggwp all, was frustrating at times, but ended on a high
ty for having my back hu tao, good to have you
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Post Post #3433 (ISO) » Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:48 pm

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GG, thanks for modding Alisae
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Post Post #3434 (ISO) » Fri Nov 10, 2023 4:15 pm

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Damn, prepared game for mafia cop, so they have drama with "what if player we checked is miller, not traitor".

And then mod just puts "Backup" of said role.

Without real Cop.
Boomer.
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Post Post #3435 (ISO) » Fri Nov 10, 2023 4:45 pm

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In post 3434, Enchant wrote: Damn, prepared game for mafia cop, so they have drama with "what if player we checked is miller, not traitor".

And then mod just puts "Backup" of said role.

Without real Cop.
Boomer.
I mean if it is a cop or if it isn't a cop technically doesn't matter. If it actually can cop then it just finds a miller its a very much so whatever thing like ig it allows them to fakeclaim a pr and then get tracked doing the thing they said they would do
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Post Post #3436 (ISO) » Fri Nov 10, 2023 4:47 pm

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In post 3377, Dannflor wrote: fire nation with danny boi loses :(
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Post Post #3437 (ISO) » Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:08 pm

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In post 3432, Nono wrote: fire, im insulted, a privilege)
ggwp all, was frustrating at times, but ended on a high
ty for having my back hu tao, good to have you
Your reads are always so good. I'm impressed
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Post Post #3438 (ISO) » Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:10 pm

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Gg all. Sorry if I got frustrated. And I do need to work on explaining my reads better. Thanks for the game Alisae~
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Post Post #3440 (ISO) » Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:37 pm

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In post 3438, Hu Tao wrote: Gg all. Sorry if I got frustrated. And I do need to work on explaining my reads better. Thanks for the game Alisae~
In post 3439, Flavor Leaf wrote: You have very strong gut reads, though
Like I said in game, Hu Tao is scary lol.

for all the flack we gave the masons for the claim, Hu was on point here.
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Post Post #3441 (ISO) » Fri Nov 10, 2023 7:36 pm

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Hi I read (part of) this game and I called Flavor Leaf being town on Day 1 and I think I actually know how to read Flavor Leaf now (it's hard, though).

Also called Dannflor being scum very early in Day 3, surprised Flavor didn't want to push him when he was scum both by mech (his claim) and by play.

Also was the Backup Cop supposed to trigger if Drew died? Or was it a complete red herring? Why did mafia have such bad roles? Just for WIFOM?
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Post Post #3442 (ISO) » Fri Nov 10, 2023 7:43 pm

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In post 3441, DragonEater70 wrote: Hi I read (part of) this game and I called Flavor Leaf being town on Day 1 and I think I actually know how to read Flavor Leaf now (it's hard, though).

Also called Dannflor being scum very early in Day 3, surprised Flavor didn't want to push him when he was scum both by mech (his claim) and by play.

Also was the Backup Cop supposed to trigger if Drew died? Or was it a complete red herring? Why did mafia have such bad roles? Just for WIFOM?
I needed Firebringer’s vote to end the day on Day 3.

We even had Xergerus as scum before they replaced out, but day 1, it really just was the i was inactive for a portion at the end, and come back to an E-1, something felt fishy. And Marci put Dann to E-1, so it put me off of it, and i couldn’t push Marci so went Gamma. Tried to go Marci at the end still, and got 4 votes on em.

Dann being traitor makes sense with why Marci would put them to E-1.
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Post Post #3443 (ISO) » Fri Nov 10, 2023 7:44 pm

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In post 3441, DragonEater70 wrote: Hi I read (part of) this game and I called Flavor Leaf being town on Day 1 and I think I actually know how to read Flavor Leaf now (it's hard, though).

Also called Dannflor being scum very early in Day 3, surprised Flavor didn't want to push him when he was scum both by mech (his claim) and by play.

Also was the Backup Cop supposed to trigger if Drew died? Or was it a complete red herring? Why did mafia have such bad roles? Just for WIFOM?
Flavor is actually easy to read as town, the problem is that he is so charismatic and has a way with words that you will doubt that read.

I struggle with it every game.
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Post Post #3444 (ISO) » Fri Nov 10, 2023 7:46 pm

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The cop functionally did not do anything.
Saying that the mafia has a cop can also read as the mafia has a traitor.
It's a red harring in that people might think groupwolves have a cop but it's not a red harring in that you still have an understanding of what to expect.

If you can get in a position to be more credible than masons then the disloyal neighborizer can probably go the distance. It's not a role that necessarily reaches endgame, you probably claim that you're gated, hood a townie or two before bussing traitor. There are things you can do with it.

Backup mailman lets wolves communicate with traitor. It's kind of just an extra thing going for them. It probably shouldn't be claimed like how Fire did it (I don't think there's a real reason to claim it) but it's not all that necessary.

Mafia don't rly need to have good roles and I wouldn't say these roles are necessarily bad either. Mafia have advantage just by being informed and usually if the mafia have PRs it can be to respond to what villagers can do.

If the setup was randed w/ like FL traitor and jjh + Gamma wolves I imagine it's hard to imagine how this game isn't a wolf win.
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Post Post #3445 (ISO) » Fri Nov 10, 2023 7:48 pm

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Traitor here knows 3 different groups of people
- mafia
- neighborhood
- masonry

I'm sure there are many things that can be done with this information once you find out who is who
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Post Post #3446 (ISO) » Fri Nov 10, 2023 7:53 pm

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In post 3444, Alisae wrote: If the setup was randed w/ like FL traitor and jjh + Gamma wolves I imagine it's hard to imagine how this game isn't a wolf win.
Flavor Leaf: complaining he's never played traitor before my game

Everyone: praising Flavor Leaf's traitor game

I find this funny.
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Post Post #3447 (ISO) » Fri Nov 10, 2023 7:54 pm

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In post 3446, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 3444, Alisae wrote: If the setup was randed w/ like FL traitor and jjh + Gamma wolves I imagine it's hard to imagine how this game isn't a wolf win.
Flavor Leaf: complaining he's never played traitor before my game

Everyone: praising Flavor Leaf's traitor game

I find this funny.
I think it was probably one of my strongest scum games in a while.

I hope I never roll Traitor again.
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Post Post #3448 (ISO) » Fri Nov 10, 2023 7:57 pm

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Scum probably should have taken advantage of a possible Mason Hu Tao fade, killed Drew, bussed Dann if they had to, then open up Geraint/FL/Una.

Probably sow doubt between Una/FL further and get us to 1v1.
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Post Post #3449 (ISO) » Fri Nov 10, 2023 11:11 pm

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In post 3428, Firebringer wrote: i lowkey had a minor freakout when someone pointed out that jackson claimed. I had not read majority of day 1 at that point. U would think I would read my predecessor iso to see for claims before i claimed but im that lazy.
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