Open 889 | Secrets of the Anuket Topaz | fin.

[T3]

Well if its a confirmed win then yea, I'm the mafia.

christ. WP!

[Prism]

Well played, I think you had some early meta stuff. I'm really annoyed but I'm willing to forgive since it looks like you didn't know better.

The issue with the slow roll is that I told you I would unvote immediately. I set it up specifically so that you could confirm exactly what was happening and blitz.

Well I harbored a small fear that you were gonna flip on me or were testing me. So I had to play it safe.

In a vacuum, you TRing me actually pinned me in a way. Since it forced me to TR you, but I was susceptible to having that flipped on me.

I'm not trying to beat up on you here. I know you made a mistake and didn't mean to waste our time.

But when someone says to blitz or not, take the time to count the votes, then post. I explicitly said I was going to immediately unvote when you acknowledged 4464. The entire point was to give you the time to doublecheck the votes, post a blitz or an acknowledgment, and let us not go through this entire experience.

[gob]

Yea I felt bad lol.

[Ydrasse]

it happens its just annoying when it does lol
no anger @ you tho

[Ydrasse]

at least that explains why of the remaining options all of them felt bad!

[Prism]

Either way, I had fun and congratulations on a good win. You rebounded well from the rough entry and carried it through.

I was mostly sold by the perpetual unvotes and the interactions with the flipped scum slots.

[Prism]

Did you read gob's scumgame by chance, jjh?

I think there are a few takeaways from it. I recommend Ctrl+F searching Animated Wiz and Merlyn, his partners.

First, gob tends to be very noncommittal when townleaning a partner. Second, looking at the partner ISOs and comparing it to gob's, he continuously failed to respond to the partner's questions and to interact with them at all. I think this is a stark contrast to this game, where he repeatedly returned to dialoguing with camel.

I also want to take a second to revisit this meta. This was a good mixup from what was your only scumgame onsite. I could see similar reasoning with wagonomics and knew not to townread that, but it wasn't enough.

[Prism]

at least that explains why of the remaining options all of them felt bad!

I'm grabbing a 6 pack of Premium Amber O'Doul's and watching a Scooby Doo movie tomorrow

[Prism]

And of course, sorry to Andres. You had the right read on gob, I strongarmed you through, and then I still wrongly cleared gob Day 4. As promised, two eggs for you and one for me. I'll give you a third as an extra apology.

[Prism]

Also my apologies to Dragons.

I was the one who falsely cleared gob so it's 100% on me. I hope you understand why you specifically got voted out of the 4 and that it wasn't a spite vote: I spent probably ~15 hours reading and metaing only town players and obviously none of them were making any sense to me.

[Prism]

I don't know how interested you are in knowing specifically what worked gob, but these posts were what got me on the early Day 4 reread (way, way back at the start of today):

Prism can you trust me fully and go Firebringer here?

If not I will relent and go Andres

I think people arent looking at Firebringer because he hasnt posted recently

The question is do you trust in my skills?

I wasn't joking with what I said yesterday.

I think if we are to vote between Andres and imaginality, we do imaginality first. Andres has scum potential in that pool (Andres/Firebringer), but I feel like it's Firebringer. One thing I noticed is that Firebringer jumped on Titus and then immediately camel jumped on him.

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I noticed this at the time btw, but I don't like using this kind of logic.

How is that a nothing read?

Firebringer/Ydrasse/Andres/JJH has wolf 100% of the time

Firebringer/Andres is most reasonable small pool

Firebringer has been scummier than Andres, looking at his votes. His actions speak louder than words.

This was a very good setup.

[gob]

Yes i had a good position of being able to make good posts against Fire and not have anyone vote him. In retrospect the push against Fire was good it seems. I originally thought that whole line of play was a misplay.

This was a fun game and a good setup.

[gob]

The phases are a bit too long for the setup but the setup itself is perfect. The mafia’s night kill basically becomes their bussing wagon.

Would love to go from the townside

[Prism]

Again it dovetailed really nicely with the limited sample from your other scumgame, where the S/S interactions were a lot thinner. I knew you could tone/style match but I really underestimated the upper bound for interactions.

It's a great setup.

[jjh927]

Well, that's something to wake up to

[Dannflor]

VC 4.FINAL

Secret

Save the Dragons [4]:

Prism, imaginality, Ydrasse, gob

jjh927 [1]:

T3

T3 [1]:

jjh927

Not Voting [1]:

Save the Dragons

With 13 on-board, it takes 7 to force someone to walk the plank. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-10-22 18:36:06).

Mod Notes:

[Dannflor]

Save the Dragons was a

Crewman

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The

Smuggler

team of Firebringer, camelCasedSnivy, and gob have won Secret of the Anuket Topaz!

[Dannflor]

PT links coming in the morning.

[jjh927]

I think what really got me with this setup was that being right achieves nothing unless you actually bring it home. You can't revisit things later and there wasn't enough new information to make inordinately confident slots reconsider bad opinions. We lost Alisae day 1, a balance shift that would probably have just won the game with a Firebringer elim in day 3 if we'd mislimmed someone like STD instead. On day 2, Titus kinda made anything other than a Titus lim impossible and while I don't particularly blame Shirou or Prism for taking me off camel, I'm still a bit bitter we didn't get that. If we'd done Imaginality there I think we'd have just been totally doomed.

Then we have day 3 where tbh I think Shirou wanted Firebringer and I wanted Gob, but neither of us could get what we wanted and Shirou was willing to settle whereas I felt like I needed to get exactly both scum in day 3 or I'd never get even 1 elimination that I wanted. Tbh I was fully committed to that gamble and Gob being surprisingly good with the distancing was basically what sealed that

And then day 4, I had already lost the gamble by being wrong on Gob's partner and I was so committed at this point that I just stopped entertaining Gob as scum

[jjh927]

Also choosing to not hammer and then trying to get me and T3 to case each other is honestly messed up

[Alisae]

Fire how many wolf games have u won this year

[Firebringer]

i don't know. i don't keep track

[Prism]

Fire how many wolf games have u won this year

He's a great big beautiful butterfly, the first open deepwrolf.

[Prism]

Also choosing to not hammer and then trying to get me and T3 to case each other is honestly messed up

It's easy for me to write off the 14/15 hours after the fact because they're a sunk cost, past is the past and it's spilled milk.

In contrast if you told me I was about to burn that much time in the future because someone didn't blitz, I would be so unfathomably angry.

[camelCasedSnivy]

first wolf win thats not a replacement into a free ELO