mini theme 2315 - love child (game over)

[Hu Tao]

Also did we ever play together before? If so I don't remember.. can you link it?

[Hu Tao]

Idk, I feel like I’ve been in a compromised position for most of the game, some of that is my fault, mainly for what I was doing during D4, but part of that comes from Hu Tao’s reflexive approach of suspecting my role as a scum one. Which I think makes her town because I have had a lot of beef with that approach in recent games but it seems to be town who do it more than scum and I have legit seen Hu Tao do the same sort of thing in a prior game.
Ftr that’s more of a recent consideration, my initial lean came from the feeling that I was being set up and your play felt more in line with that worldview if you are scum.

I tried to give my thoughts but HPE's role of mafia bird watcher. Doesn't that sound like scums way of spying on the hoods? Since all the flavors of my hoods are birds?

[Hu Tao]

I'm really not sure who is scum at the moment. If you're town Aureal I need you to give me a reason why I'm scum that's legitimate, because right now it does seem like you're playing both sides

[Hu Tao]

Gamma can you explain again why you targeted me n1 even though I led the ircher wagon?

[Gamma Emerald]

Idk, I feel like I’ve been in a compromised position for most of the game, some of that is my fault, mainly for what I was doing during D4, but part of that comes from Hu Tao’s reflexive approach of suspecting my role as a scum one. Which I think makes her town because I have had a lot of beef with that approach in recent games but it seems to be town who do it more than scum and I have legit seen Hu Tao do the same sort of thing in a prior game.
Ftr that’s more of a recent consideration, my initial lean came from the feeling that I was being set up and your play felt more in line with that worldview if you are scum.

I tried to give my thoughts but HPE's role of mafia bird watcher. Doesn't that sound like scums way of spying on the hoods? Since all the flavors of my hoods are birds?

Thinking about that atp hurts my head because I would expect that if there weren’t scum in those hoods at all but there has to be fmpov. And like, it wouldn’t make sense for me to be scum with HPE if that was her role either, so I think the most logical idea is that HPE’s role does something else.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma can you explain again why you targeted me n1 even though I led the ircher wagon?

I explained it when I claimed: I wanted to peek your hood with pk and I believed he would have claimed any other hoods he had so I felt peeking you would be more interesting.

[Aureal]

Idk, I feel like I’ve been in a compromised position for most of the game, some of that is my fault, mainly for what I was doing during D4, but part of that comes from Hu Tao’s reflexive approach of suspecting my role as a scum one. Which I think makes her town because I have had a lot of beef with that approach in recent games but it seems to be town who do it more than scum and I have legit seen Hu Tao do the same sort of thing in a prior game.
Ftr that’s more of a recent consideration, my initial lean came from the feeling that I was being set up and your play felt more in line with that worldview if you are scum.

You're gonna have to be more specific about what you mean here because I have no idea what I could have done that seems like setting you up, at least in the negative sense you are conveying. Perhaps what your feeling comes from is the fact that I

am

setting you up, I am setting you up to win because I believe that you are the other town here. If you're scum, good job, you've fooled basically everyone. Since there's no need to beat around the bush here anymore and you've killed my hopes of getting to make a funny sudden goose-hammer, I'll just go ahead and do it.

VOTE: Hu Tao

I'm really not sure who is scum at the moment. If you're town Aureal I need you to give me a reason why I'm scum that's legitimate, because right now it does seem like you're playing both sides

This post... Good grief. "I don't know who's town.

You're

playing both sides." I am not playing both sides, I was playing

you

and now am being quite clear what I think because the other townie wants me to. I don't need to give

you

anything, this is just nonsensical shade. I am scumreading you, if you're town you needed to give

me

reason not to.

[Gamma Emerald]

This is me not hammering.

[Hu Tao]

I'm surprised it's actually you Aureal, you played it very well. I knew I should have just stuck to my theory of someone being scum in the neighborhoods. I think broccoli saying you were town stuck with me too much

[Hu Tao]

Okay I'll just prove to you why I'm town in my posts I suppose, gamma

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: Hu Tao
Forgot to RVS in my opener... I'm losing my touch

VOTE: Meuh

OMGUS

It's OMGUS bexause you are voting my

mason partner

!

Totally legit claim btw

Why are you claiming mason right out the gate?

This series of posts should be why I'm town just from this. But I'll continue with more. Broccoli claimed masons with me and Ircher thought he was serious. (Of course you could say that you think ircher was playing it up)

[Hu Tao]

Also it was one of the main reasons why Ircher was eliminated day 1 because of that.

[Aureal]

This is me not hammering.

I love the sensation of being right.

Let's turn it into a win, too.

[Hu Tao]

Why are you claiming mason right out the gate?

Suspicious post by you Ircher

join my Ircher wagon, mason buddy?

VOTE: ircher

VOTE: Ircher

Going to OMGUS a vote for some VCA too.

glad we are getting Ircher votes

VOTE: Ircher
I think I want to keep this wagon alive

Good post, considering people are jumping off when ircher has done nothing to warrant jumping off the wagon

I still feel Titus is scum. She had not done anything by the point I voted her other than go over things that had already been hashed out. She has since OMGUSed me, which I get but it doesn't do her any favors in my read, and then offered one small read, so I'm fine leaving my vote there.

I moved away from Broccoli because I thought Broccoli's more recent posts were better. I didn't really like their mason stuff at the beginning of the game; it felt like the kind of thing scum does to joke around and look town which is why I voted there in the first place, but Broccoli has shown earnest attempt to solve the game since.

I agree that broccoli is town. I'm not sure I buy the Titus read, though. Is the 'omgus' the only reason?

Ircher, HPE, Theta, furtive. Any of these I could vote as of this moment

At this point day 1 I was very against Ircher and HPE, I would have been bussing both partners day 1 by doing so which would be silly.

[Hu Tao]

ircher can you pretty please give me like, a read list or something

Town

Broccoli
Andante

Null

Everyone not listed.

Scum

Titus

This is so funny for some reason

Yeah agree with furtive wrt Aureal, and Ircher is mainly my next idea for a lim because this one has like nothing else, probably because it's been focusing too much on Afrayed to look at others.

Not a fan of this post, since it seems like lining up votes.

This is another post which makes me not allied with them. HPE did the common scum tactic of lining up votes, and tried to even make it to where people unvoted Ircher Day 1 and saved him for day 2. I called it out on this post saying that it seemed like HPE was doing this.

[Hu Tao]

That post by HPE is also soft defending Aureal btw

[Gamma Emerald]

Pls cross

[Hu Tao]

I think people just feel like giving Ircher another day phase
read starting from 716 to see what's up w Afrayed

Not interested if that's all

If scum, I was given multiple chances to get off the wagon and I kept pushing back against it.

Now I'll admit day 1 and 2 I wasn't as active since I was om vacation but still, there are multiple times where I was sticking on Ircher

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: Aureal

[Hu Tao]

Pls cross

Are you even reading my posts though?

[Gamma Emerald]

I was asking you to crossvote. Sorry, probably shouldn’t have used shorthand

[Hu Tao]

I think the E-1 Ircher wagon was mostly pure

so Meuh/Ircher/Me/Aureal/your slot/Theta/HPE
has 2 scum in it according to you?

yeah maybe, could also be 1.

Right now I think AK/Meuh/Ircher/Titus/Aureal has all scum.

*honks a tiny trombone for the idea of Titus/Ircher/AK team*

She said this but at no point was heavily pushing Ircher

[Hu Tao]

I was asking you to crossvote. Sorry, probably shouldn’t have used shorthand

I understood that, I just wanted to make sure. Let me know if you have any questions

[Gamma Emerald]

I am reading them btw. I want to go back to some notes I took D4 which were on how different players handled the Ircher wagon. I think that will probably be the main factor in my choice.

[Hu Tao]

votecount 1.20

pisskop (4) - HighPrincessErinys, furtiveglance, Theta Alpine, Gamma Emerald
Titus (2) - Ircher, Aureal
furtiveglance (2) - Meuh, Andante
Ircher (2) - Hu Tao, Broccoli Quest 2
Meuh (1) - Doctor Drew
Aureal (1) - Titus
Gamma Emerald (1) - pisskop

not voting

(0) - n/a

with thirteen alive, it takes seven votes to be the first one to die. how embarassing! day one ends in (expired on 2023-11-01 17:45:00).

mod note: Theta Alpine and Broccoli Quest 2 are v/la

Day 1 it was me and broccoli leading the scum wagon of Ircher, even when there was opportunity to switch. I stated in the leaked thread that I actively didn't want anyone I was in a neighborhood with because I wanted to be able to sort them later. Which is another point of me telling the truth by not voting pk