Open 893 - 09:12 - Postgame

[Elements]

Bloop

[Elements]

Kyouko I don't see being scum here so we can vote imaginality or Gamma, block the other if they're not scum

[Thomith]

If you are a Town PR and haven't claimed, you need to CC me/Elements now.
If we remain UnCCed, the final scum is between Imaginality, Gamma and Kyouko.

If we get CCed, the final scum is between Me/Elements/The CC.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

assuming nobody CCs Rolecop!Thomith + Roleblocker!Elements:

clear: Thomith, Puff, Elements, Mizuki
scum?: me, gamma, imaginality

Kill one scum?, roleblock the other, rolecop the third > tomorrow morning we win

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I guess coordination isn't required because if you both target the same player and one of you dies the remaining one still has a guilty/inno on one of the 2

[Thomith]

I have a really hard time reading setup speculation without my eye's glazing over, but I think I ultimately followed it. I do think I generally get a town read on ssbm because of it though. Maybe also Mizuki.

UNVOTE:

What I do see here is a potential Follower crumb and since Cobbler claimed Follower, I could see scum thinking there is a follower in the setup and trying to draw a future counterclaim out of them with this plan. It's a common enough expression, but worth noting as a potential crumb I think.

Did you misread Celeboki as Cobblerfone?
I'm Celebloki's replacement, and this is not helpful speculation.

No I didn't misread it, what I'm saying is Celebloki and Cobbler potentially coordinated to crumb follower so that in the event one was going down, they could try to bait a CC from what is probably the only role that could guilty them if Celebloki rolled strongman, which seems the most likely.scenario if Cobbler claimed specifically Follower. My guess is scum rolled strongman and because strongman can shoot through Babysitter, Roleblocker, and Jailkeeper, the only PR to worry about is Follower

I think the other possibility to this is Scum maybe rolled Rolecop and took the 50/50 on what side of the clock we're on.

I'll also say this is why I questioned this, because I knew there wasn't a strongman in the setup.

[Thomith]

I guess coordination isn't required because if you both target the same player and one of you dies the remaining one still has a guilty/inno on one of the 2

Eh I think we still may as well.

[Mizuki]

Everything checks out, I'm a VT.

It really just has to between Gamma and Imagi then, I don't see Kyouko putting herself into a corner like this as scum and I can't see anything egregiously manipulative in the mech spec.

[Thomith]

Everything checks out, I'm a VT.

It really just has to between Gamma and Imagi then, I don't see Kyouko putting herself into a corner like this as scum and I can't see anything egregiously manipulative in the mech spec.

I'll be honest I've been thinking about something similar today, and figured out if we have exactly a Roleblocker we could do this plan, but didn't want to claim before in case we had a Doctor and then I'm outed for no reason.

[Thomith]

Which is why I agree, I don't see anything manipulative in the mech spec either.

[Elements]

I'll Roleblock whichever of Gamma/imaginality we don't lim today

[Thomith]

I'll Rolecop Kyouko then, assuming it goes to Night 2.

[Puffalicious]

I guessed thomith was a town invest who checked my slot and got a town clear on us. I didn't want to say it in the thread and I only said in the hydra chat I thought he was a town invest who cleared us and turns out I was right.


- A

[ssbm_Kyouko]

for the record - not mechanically speaking, I still think it's Imaginality, and since Elements and Thomith are coordinated in night actions now, I'll:
VOTE: Imaginality
putting him back to E-1.

[Elements]

Intent to hammer

[Thomith]

I'd still like everyone to claim Town PR or Not Town PR in their next post before we end the day I think, just to make 100% sure.

[Thomith]

I guessed thomith was a town invest who checked my slot and got a town clear on us. I didn't want to say it in the thread and I only said in the hydra chat I thought he was a town invest who cleared us and turns out I was right.


- A

I'll be real, I almost just soft claimed, because I thought that my defense of you made me obvious that I knew something a VT wouldn't. I'm surprised more people didn't pick up on it (if they did, they didn't mention it),because in hindsight I feel like I was real obvious today.

[Thomith]

I'll Roleblock whichever of Gamma/imaginality we don't lim today

If we go to Night 2, and there is No Kill, please wait for my result before we speedlim I guess, just in case Mafia No Kill to fake a Guilty.

[Elements]

Ping

Come claim

[Thomith]

Gamma already claimed VT I believe

[Elements]

Oh right

[Elements]

That's everyone except imaginality then right?

[Elements]

So I can hammer?

[Thomith]

Imaginality made it sound like they were going to claim something, so may be worth waiting, but tbh if they claim something I feel like they just get hammered anyway so I guess so.

If you hammer Imaginality and the game doesn't end, to confirm, if you Roleblock Gamma and I'll Rolecop Kyouko. Game should be solved after that.

[Elements]

I'm roleblocking Gamma tonight gang assuming the game doesn't end
VOTE: Imaginality