open 894: near vanilla (game over)

[tired person]

UNVOTE:

[tired person]

i am not really sold on outworlder being scum but i guess i am sold on jupiter and pooky being town.

VOTE: outworlder

did you read that sequence I said looked faked where OWER on page 40 was giving Black the business about being mafia with T3.

like I am really waffly on whether that is faked or geniune.

I just feel like it looks

too good

to be real and I need someone to tell me like if im being crazy about that page of the game

i read it and i am not sure.

outworlder, do you have any town game where you were so confident about someone, or a team, being scum on day 1 like in that exchange on page 40?

[OutWorldER]

among us mafia where IIRC I was tunneled on Pooky/Alisae the entire game from the moment I first posted

the first game I played (Mini Normal 2170) I think I was super confident about Panzerjager being town that TSQ even stopped me and was like "why are you so confident about this"

mini normal 2185 is a lesser example and a game I'm not proud of, but I also sort of just directly called out (correctly) that bugspray was scum

[OutWorldER]

*Panzerjager being scum, woops

[OutWorldER]

but again, why does this matter

when I should be cleared by doc shot by virtue of the fact that there's no way in hell T3 would've been the one to submit to kill

. If I am T3's scum partner I am the one who submits the kill, every single fucking time, and Titus had jailed T3, so there should've been a kill on N1.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yeah sure

you should get jupiter to pay you money for how hard you're carrying him out of elo

lolollol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

why would T3, were he my partner, think that I'm so at risk of being jailed that he, who had been under far more suspicion the prior day phase, submits the kill instead

explain that to me

it doesnt have to be like this

mafia couldve no killed just to get the JK to claim

[OutWorldER]

that makes zero fucking sense pooky because the doc would just heal the JK

there is zero fucking reason for mafia to no kill on night 1 especially after already starting the game behind

[OutWorldER]

you literally just want me to be scum

you literally just want me to be scum for some fucking reason and you're finding any shitty excuse you can to deny reality so you can keep thinking i'm scum

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

well it makes sense if they want the JK to claim? idk

[schadd_]

Spoiler:

vote count 9.3 !

JupiterXV (1):

OutWorldER

OutWorldER (1):

JupiterXV

not voting (2):

PookyTheMagicalBear, tired person

with 4 alive, it takes 3 to remand a player's remnants. day 9 ends in (expired on 2024-02-03 09:45:12)

moderateur notes

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[OutWorldER]

SCUM GET LITERALLY NOTHING OUT OF MAKING JK CLAIM THERE BECAUSE DOC WOULD STILL BE ALIVE

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

bruh if i was in full reality denial mode i wouldve voted for you and you'd be dead

im still undecided atp

it just looks like im heavily leaning your way cuz i cant get a reaction from you if i didnt pressure you and i dont even know how to read a reaction from jupiter

[OutWorldER]

it just looks like im heavily leaning your way cuz i cant get a reaction from you if i didnt pressure you and i dont even know how to read a reaction from jupiter

why do you need to read a reaction from me at this point when i'm

mechanically cleared

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

dude if you were mechanically cleared TP wouldnt have voted you

[OutWorldER]

yeah and I don't know they did it either

because there's literally not a single scenario that's likely or even possible than the one that's literally right in front of everyone's face

[OutWorldER]

explain how me being doc shot on n1, with the other scum jailed, who would never, in a million years, be the one to submit the kill, in a situation where it makes no sense for scum to no kill, is not a mechanical clear

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

UNVOTE:

does what OWER said about the mech make sense to you?

Spoiler: my thoughts

its kind of convincing to me - I'm ready to vote jupiter and just let the chips fall where they may.

I don't find him yelling at me to be really indicative of anything either way cuz I think he'd be upset if he was mafia too.

this is one of those games I kinda just want to flip the card over and see if I'm right or not cuz I'm not sure how much reading anymore would help things

[OutWorldER]

less than 2 days left in deadline

if one of me or jupiter is going to die it should be decided soon, no lim here does nothing but kill TP

[JupiterXV]

really busy right now. will read thread later.

[tired person]

i dunno, i am not rly reading outworlder's approach to calling himself town as towny, but i try to favor mechanics over tone when i'm reading people and i guess mechanically that's a lot of points in his favor.

i will vote whoever pooky wants, in the end.

[tired person]

I don't have the time to go point by point but the extreme fundamental issue I have with your case is that it's entirely cherry-picked; Taking my switching stance from Kurta to T3 as an example, in between those 50 posts from myself was you, yourself, proposing a theory that Kurtapika was a mislim because the wagon had stalled with no counter. I agreed with that theory, and in fact me agreeing with that theory came up several times later in the day and formed a core part of my TR on Kurta until Titus jailed him.

This is case the majority of the time I switched stances. Somebody said something, and I agreed with it and changed my mind. There are

69

(nice) posts and over 24 hours between me voting T3 out of a willingness to consolidate, to genuinely thinking he's scum when he posted his case against Titus. Framing it as "literally two posts later" is frankly disingenuous.

i had a look at those 50 posts between voting k and t3, and the 69 posts between voting t3 and saying he's scum with black, and i buy outworlder's progression on t3 and black. there was a lot going on in those posts.

i also find dannflor's case on jupiter mildly convincing.
VOTE: jupiter

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im gonna hammer jupiter today so jups this is your last chance to redeem yourself if you're town buddy

[JupiterXV]

VOTE: jupiter
sorry, don't have time for this game. gg all

[JupiterXV]

thank you all for playing with me. i had a lot of fun but i'm probably going to be taking a break from the site after this since i've been pretty busy recently and my mental health is pretty fucked tbh.