Open 898: Don't Fall In The Volcano! | Game Over!

[Dannflor]

No need to rush it but yes i will jail neko

If neko dies today ill jail sky

[FakeGod]

Very good.

We may rush now. Vote your nearest wagon.

[NekoLover]

It’s unfortunate but due to the setup scum’s best move was not to kill anyone last night.

Holy shit you are right

How did this setup pass as Newbie setup???

are they high?

Maybe because it wasn't meant to be played with experienced players that could eliminate the scum d1

[Skygazer]

VOTE: neko

[DragonEater70]

Okay I expected Klick to die but am still sad

I am pretty sure that everyone on Kawaii's wagon is town, judging by the natural way it developed (there's like 5% chance Black is scum but am not pushing her today), so I think just quickfading the other 3 players wins the game.

What do you say, Dann?

[DragonEater70]

The only reason I suggest quickfading is I want this game over in 2023 so I can use it in scummy nominations (not saying for who just yet )

[DragonEater70]

sooooo we’re in autowin i believe

Oh okay Dann avrees with me

[DragonEater70]

Agrees

[DragonEater70]

Or maybe not considering his claim

So anyway let's kill Skygazer?

[NekoLover]

Wait so isn't scums best bet to not eliminate anyway to frame a jailed player?

[Dannflor]

It’s unfortunate but due to the setup scum’s best move was not to kill anyone last night.

Holy shit you are right

How did this setup pass as Newbie setup???

are they high?

Maybe because it wasn't meant to be played with experienced players that could eliminate the scum d1

Yeah this setup is very well balanced actually (although various sub-setups lean various ways), but it is notoriously difficult for scum if a mafia member dies D1. ESPECIALLY, if that mafia member is a role blocker

[DragonEater70]

I sorta figured that you had an ace in the hole to smash the hammer like that

Yep. The hammer without intent made me look a bit scummy, which was good as that decreased my chance of being NK'd. OTOH if Kawaii had flipped town and I got pushed, I knew I could claim. Also a claim isn't that bad in this setup, as I believe a tracker claim means there's a JK or a chance of a doc, so scum can't just kill the tracker risk free. Setup seems to be a little town-sided.

Just a comment on that (and also on FakeGod's complaint of "why was this approved as a newbie?"):

All 9 player setups seem "townsided" if scum flip Day 1, because almost any PR that can get an inno is totally busted when scum flipped Day 1. The thing is scum has like 25% chance by default to flip Day 1 (or maybe 33% if you take better than random reads into account), so you do need these PRs for town not to lost in the majority of the time. This setup actually is balanced.

[Dannflor]

Wait so isn't scums best bet to not eliminate anyway to frame a jailed player?

Yes, but if scum doesn’t kill, they have to deal with 3 confirmed innocent players

[NekoLover]

Wait so isn't scums best bet to not eliminate anyway to frame a jailed player?

Yes, but if scum doesn’t kill, they have to deal with 3 confirmed innocent players

Yea that's true, not eliminating allows town to confirm more roles; Man scum just lost this game that fast, right? That's actually kinda boring

[Black]

Wait so isn't scums best bet to not eliminate anyway to frame a jailed player?

This sounds like something newscum would ask

[DragonEater70]

VOTE: Sky

[DragonEater70]

Wait so isn't scums best bet to not eliminate anyway to frame a jailed player?

VOTE: Neko

[Black]

VOTE: Neko

[NekoLover]

I'm mainly concerned with being framed as i'm the jail target but if you want to flip on me go ahead

[NekoLover]

That's hammer I believe

[DragonEater70]

It’s unfortunate but due to the setup scum’s best move was not to kill anyone last night.

Holy shit you are right

How did this setup pass as Newbie setup???

are they high?

Maybe because it wasn't meant to be played with experienced players that could eliminate the scum d1

Yeah this setup is very well balanced actually (although various sub-setups lean various ways), but it is notoriously difficult for scum if a mafia member dies D1. ESPECIALLY, if that mafia member is a role blocker

Also if the goon gets run up instead of the RB, they can force a CC of the cop/tracker and prevent town from getting any investigation results at all (due to roleblocker blocking them).

[Black]

It's either Neko, Sky, or Dragon. I don't think we can lose

[DragonEater70]

Sorry Neko if you town

[DragonEater70]

GG either way and let's do a fast night please

[NekoLover]

Also incase it isn't hammer and i've counted wrong VOTE: nekolover