Why haven't you played a game of survivor?

[Thestatusquo]

Just what the title says.

I'm curious for the people on this site who have never stepped over to the ORG side why not? No interest? No real understanding of the how the games work? Never thought about it?

I wanna know!

[ORAM]

Good thread, ego

[Dannflor]

For me, the biggest reason I used to not play, and the biggest reason I don’t sign up for every game, is the difference in time commitment expectations between a mafia game and a survivor game. If you log on once a day every couple days in a mafia game you can perform pretty well. Try that in a survivor game and you’ll be lucky to make it past the first vote.

[furtiveglance]

Just what the title says.

I'm curious for the people on this site who have never stepped over to the ORG side why not? No interest? No real understanding of the how the games work? Never thought about it?

I wanna know!

It's not social deduction - everyone's self-aligned, which I find less interesting than mafia.

[Thestatusquo]

Do you not play other games besides social deduction games?

[Thestatusquo]

For me, the biggest reason I used to not play, and the biggest reason I don’t sign up for every game, is the difference in time commitment expectations between a mafia game and a survivor game. If you log on once a day every couple days in a mafia game you can perform pretty well. Try that in a survivor game and you’ll be lucky to make it past the first vote.

For me this was a big thing as well. I definitely feel like the commitment in mafia vs survivor is not even comparable. You simply can't be successful without fully committing to playing the game.

[schadd_]

it seems very hard to justify why it should be the other guy and not me

[N]

I don't think it would be good for my mental health

[Firebringer]

I played one game and was voted out immediately

[Ythan]

Haha I did play one.

[Haschel Cedricson]

I played one game and was voted out immediately

I remember this! You actually did beat four other people. Here's what you said as you left:

None of the challenges were fun (biggest issue is here)

I kind of tried to get into messaging people but I didn't message people enough, nor took any initiative to message the person first.

Anyways, not very surprised I got eliminated, but I was never able to keep track of the schedule to even know there was a tribal council the other day. I just logged on, found out I was eliminated.

It's possible that Survivor may not be for you, but we do have more challenge-focused games periodically that you should check out. You might thrive in a Big Brother or something like The Challenge/Hybrid/Clash of the Mash.

[Firebringer]

I swear i was voted out first? I don't remember participating in voting anyone out. But maybe I somehow missed those. Past me probably is more right than current me since that was like 2 or so years ago.

Yeah i think time commitment is pretty extensive for current me and the games weren't fun. There could be fun survivor games im missing out on but i really would need that time factor i don't have right now in my life.

[Thestatusquo]

Yeah if you're not proactive with the social aspect (messaging people, forming bonds with other players, etc) you're going to have a rough time. Challenges in survivor games in particular kinda mostly exist as a driver of action rather than a thing to do in their own right, though I did have some challenges I've really enjoyed both in the game I ran and in the games I played.

[Thestatusquo]

We're about to run a discord marathon game coming up which is one of the reasons I started this thread, because for me the long commitment time was a big deal. Do you think you would enjoy it more if the commitment was limited to a more discrete 3-5 hour time block on one day rather than the more extended formats of the forum games?

[Dannflor]

for me the issue has always been is that weekends are pretty bad for me

even when i do have time for a survivor game i pretty much cannot participate in challenges that happen over the weekend and tribal contributions are limited

I’d love games that like took breaks for the weekend but i recognize that is a pretty unique scheduling issue to have and unlikely to have enough people that that schedule works better for to happen

the marathon games are always scheduled for such times as well

[Haschel Cedricson]

I’d love games that like took breaks for the weekend but i recognize that is a pretty unique scheduling issue to have and unlikely to have enough people that that schedule works better for to happen

Funny you should mention that; one of the things that the other blues and myself have been discussing is the potential for the occasional game with a different schedule than the standard and one of the ideas bandied about was M/T/W/R being challenge/TC/challenge/TC with FSaSu being days off.

[Dannflor]

I’d love games that like took breaks for the weekend but i recognize that is a pretty unique scheduling issue to have and unlikely to have enough people that that schedule works better for to happen

Funny you should mention that; one of the things that the other blues and myself have been discussing is the potential for the occasional game with a different schedule than the standard and one of the ideas bandied about was M/T/W/R being challenge/TC/challenge/TC with FSaSu being days off.

i, for one, would be extremely interested in a schedule like that

[Cheery Dog]

I played one game and was voted out immediately

I remember this! You actually did beat four other people. Here's what you said as you left:

None of the challenges were fun (biggest issue is here)

I kind of tried to get into messaging people but I didn't message people enough, nor took any initiative to message the person first.

Anyways, not very surprised I got eliminated, but I was never able to keep track of the schedule to even know there was a tribal council the other day. I just logged on, found out I was eliminated.

It's possible that Survivor may not be for you, but we do have more challenge-focused games periodically that you should check out. You might thrive in a Big Brother or something like The Challenge/Hybrid/Clash of the Mash.

Notably he made it the first swap.
Although I'm fairly sure the reasoning for that was the first tribe never went to tribal.

[T3]

I played once but I flaked in the middle of the 2nd challenge and was promptly voted out

The time commitment was crazy compared to mafia games plus my schedule is pretty inconsistent so I don't think I'll ever join again.

[T3]

Oh my god, I found my confessional from that game. I probably could have had an off-chance of surviving if I didn't engage in crazy newbie behavior. Post-game I was told that I was being really quiet but during the game I thought that I was being super social and talkative.

[Thestatusquo]

Yeah it is my experience that newbies are frequently extremely worried about being seen as too active or present when in fact there really is no such thing.

[Firebringer]

We're about to run a discord marathon game coming up which is one of the reasons I started this thread, because for me the long commitment time was a big deal. Do you think you would enjoy it more if the commitment was limited to a more discrete 3-5 hour time block on one day rather than the more extended formats of the forum games?

I might be more interested in a one game 3-5 hour session but I am doing a lot of travel right now both for work and personal so its not likely for me to have a straight 3 hour session for the next two months, FML.

[T3]

I'd love to play a 'geriatric' survivor if one exists, maybe a game that is only open on 3 days of the week or something

[Cook]

gamified social interaction? i could never

completely ignore the fact that i play mafia please

[Radical Rat]

Survivor? I 'ardly know 'er!

Format just doesn't really appeal to me, kind of same deal as furtive.

While I do play and have played non-social deduction games, I don't really play personal politicking games without a social deduction element also present. At that point it is pretty much just about charisma, of which I do not possess nearly enough to meaningfully compete.