micro 1096: planned idea [game over]

[Flare Fluff]

I'm here, haven't read yet, will try to tomorrow (but probably won't tbh) someone give me abridged cases on HPE and Margot, or whoever else you deem important.

-Rat

The poe are in HPE, Margot, shaddow, and Black.

I am null on all of them and I'm voting HPE because its reads has been based on wagons. Like for example HPE lock towned shaddow on day 1 for being wagoned at rvs and then on day 2 it put shaddow as one of its voting choices for not voting Rogues on day 1 who flipped mafia.

Margot is being voted because on day 1 she and Ausuka were both being wagoned and Margot voted Ausuka even thought she thought Ausuka was a mason. She is being voted for another reason which I find nai and it is because on day 1 she said she would visit Black with her detector ability and instead she ended up using her detector ability on tris.

- A

[HighPrincessErinys]

feeling very vindicated by coming up with the hypothesis that FF is a slot that scum would love to pocket or just use as a distraction and then looking at rogues iso and he does exactly that

[HighPrincessErinys]

this isnt really relevant to the gamestate rn but it feels good to get it right

[Itinerants]

Also, actually, why would I have spent the entirety of day 1 trying to save the person I thought was mason, putting myself on people's radars, and then immediately kill, that night, the one person with any reason to feel any kind of good will for me in this game?

I don't know that I'd consider "putting at E-1" to be "trying to save." I get that it was a self-preservation vote, but based on your professed strength of Ausuka townread, and your claimed belief that she was a mason, I think you should have either taken the L or attempted to swing onto someone else.

Rogues was an inevitable deadline lim, so no credit for hammering scum there.

And then you'd find yourself alone, while the masons have two. The masonry's continued existence removes two people from the elimination pool, and in a game where you've already narrowly evaded death, do you want your options restricted? Ausuka was willing to put you at E-1 as well, so clearly not the most reliable of pockets. You know that no doctors or trackers exist to confound you. Why WOULDN'T you take that shot as scum?

-Rat

[Black]

Welcome Itinerants

I don't know that I'd consider "putting at E-1" to be "trying to save." I get that it was a self-preservation vote, but based on your professed strength of Ausuka townread, and your claimed belief that she was a mason, I think you should have either taken the L or attempted to swing onto someone else.

Yep. I already mentioned this but when Margot voted for Ausuka there was already support for a Rogues wagon. Rogues was in Margot's solve. The natural town reaction would have been to vote Rogues and encourage others to join instead of immediately defaulting to her top townread and someone she thinks is a Mason, the most important town role in the game. It's not like Margot would have been pulling Rogues's name out of nowhere either. There was already one vote there and other people had expressed scumreads on them. Margot could have put the wagon to 2, one behind herself and Ausuka, and waited to see if that got any traction. Instead she tried to kill the Mason

I understand the self-preservation element and I do think there was some self-preservation involved, I just think it came from a scum perspective

[Black]

I think Town!Margot votes Rogues there, even when considering the possible survival element. Scum!Margot only votes Rogues there if her and Rogues decided they should bus, and why would they do that when they could put the "Mason" at e-1 instead?

[HighPrincessErinys]

I think Town!Margot votes Rogues there, even when considering the possible survival element. Scum!Margot only votes Rogues there if her and Rogues decided they should bus, and why would they do that when they could put the "Mason" at e-1 instead?

Considering we never got a claim from Rogues (probably for the better because they'd just claim mason lmao) and it was so close to deadline, its probably because they disappeared before Margot could coordinate with them.

[Itinerants]

I think Town!Margot votes Rogues there, even when considering the possible survival element. Scum!Margot only votes Rogues there if her and Rogues decided they should bus, and why would they do that when they could put the "Mason" at e-1 instead?

Considering we never got a claim from Rogues (probably for the better because they'd just claim mason lmao) and it was so close to deadline, its probably because they disappeared before Margot could coordinate with them.

Interesting. You're presupposing Margot is scum here, yet your vote would seem to indicate the opposite.
Why is that?

-Rat

[HighPrincessErinys]

I think Town!Margot votes Rogues there, even when considering the possible survival element. Scum!Margot only votes Rogues there if her and Rogues decided they should bus, and why would they do that when they could put the "Mason" at e-1 instead?

Considering we never got a claim from Rogues (probably for the better because they'd just claim mason lmao) and it was so close to deadline, its probably because they disappeared before Margot could coordinate with them.

Interesting. You're presupposing Margot is scum here, yet your vote would seem to indicate the opposite.
Why is that?

-Rat

oh my god not another explanation rodeo after changing my mind.

[HighPrincessErinys]

I think Town!Margot votes Rogues there, even when considering the possible survival element. Scum!Margot only votes Rogues there if her and Rogues decided they should bus, and why would they do that when they could put the "Mason" at e-1 instead?

Considering we never got a claim from Rogues (probably for the better because they'd just claim mason lmao) and it was so close to deadline, its probably because they disappeared before Margot could coordinate with them.

Interesting. You're presupposing Margot is scum here, yet your vote would seem to indicate the opposite.
Why is that?

-Rat

oh my god not another explanation rodeo after changing my mind.

Look, alright. This one gets it, being lenient toward Margot was a stupid idea, she's more likely scum than not, it KNOWS. This one considered the possibility and it's an unlikely one and we could probably just flip Margot anyway and be fine if she's town somehow.

[Itinerants]

My apologies, I was just going off of the most recent votecount, didn't see that you'd moved already.

-Rat

[HighPrincessErinys]

this one is just really Tired of this game by this point

[Black]

The game is only a couple weeks old and there's only one scum left. It won't take much longer if people would just do stuff

[Itinerants]

I have received permission from RH to vote so let's get rolling.

VOTE: MargotRosa

E-1. Start coming up with some darn good excuses.

[shaddowez]

Life exploded, catching up. Based on when I left the thread, expectation is I'll be voting Margot, resolving the 1v1 with HPE after if necessary

[shaddowez]

And just saw the last post in the thread putting her at e-1, so will be holding my vote until I'm definitely caught up

[HighPrincessErinys]

Life exploded, catching up. Based on when I left the thread, expectation is I'll be voting Margot, resolving the 1v1 with HPE after if necessary

You probably don't need me to tell you but votin Margot here is hammer.

[shaddowez]

Yeah, after a catch up there's nothing to change my mind. You can take this as intent, but I probably won't actually hammer until tomorrow when I can do a more thorough reread.

[DkKoba]

VOTE: margot

gg i was maf

[DkKoba]

idk why i did that, it felt impulsive.

[HighPrincessErinys]

VOTE: margot

gg i was maf

damn, they really got us.......................................

[DkKoba]

waking up to no confirmation of anything is cringe tbh

[Skygazer]

whoops sorry i'm sick right now

flip after i get out of a doctor's visit

[Skygazer]

votecount 2.07

MargotRosa (4) - Black, HighPrincessErinys, Itinerants, DkKoba
HighPrincessErinys (2) - MargotRosa, Flare Fluff

not voting

(1) - shaddowez

with seven alive, it takes four to abhor. day two ends in (expired on 2024-02-02 11:00:00).

mod notes:

[Skygazer]