Yeah I already realized how you didn't hammer me because you were setting me up as the final miselimination, bzzzzzzzt try again! You being you might have gotten away with being on a quickhammer on me, but why do that when you can manipulate things so I am the one who looks so obviously bad?
I can't control Drew's actions or Leaf's actions. Hell, Leaf was probably planning to set me up as soon as he saw me starting the wagon on him, figured it'd be so easy to set me up as a partner that he didn't even need to try. Why does he just decide to troll the game if I'm his partner here and there's such a "blatant" association? It makes no sense!
"Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
-furtiveglance
I mean if i am mafia, then first thing i do before proposing "No Lim" plan publically is talk about this in Mafia PT where bianco will notice and post this message much, much early.
Unless you think i ignore mafia PTs in games.
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Fact of the matter is there's just no reason for Leaf to torch his own credibility and then try to strongly push his partner. He even put me at e-1 with you off-wagon, that's a hell of a risk to take if I'm his partner and expected to be the one to endgame! He'd be toast today if you did the usual and hammered me there! But it was just to help pressure me, which I resisted for a while because I was still holding out some hope of getting something vaguely useful out of Drew. But he was just in what seemed to be defeated scum mode, and even said something that had a whiff of tmi, so I gave in eventually.
"Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
-furtiveglance
In post 330, JacksonVirgo wrote:
I would assume scum would talk about a claim beforehand, yes. You say that all three of you would, but that's just lip service I got no way of knowing if you would have or not and based on the assumption that scum wouldn't just spit out a claim with that complexity I feel there's a strong chance it was overlooked by both wolves.
have okayed a partner claiming it intending to be taken seriously. I hope you can see that now and understand my frustration with the way you were trying to claim credit for knocking down an obviously fake claim because apparently you are actually the other town here. I peeked in and saw you guys decided to start talking again during my raid session and bugged out a little early so I can try to actually respond and not be up ridiculously late again, so I'd appreciate it if you hold on a while and let me actually talk. It's INCREDIBLY FRUSTRATING how the other townie only has only wanted to talk to the wolf and back-and-forths with him while I'm unavailable and then just ignores me forever while I try to solve on my own. I'm glad in a way that something happened as I was getting pretty close to voting you and that would've been game over, but that doesn't mean I'm not frustrated with you acting like I need to carry the game and then vanishing for half the phase.
VOTE: Enchant
I agree that it was a silly assessment for me to make in the moment all things considered but it was where my head went to, not that it matters anymore but I understand the frustration around it
"Am I a ghost like you, caught between the seams of two intertwining melodies?"
In post 313, Aureal wrote:
So Jackson successfully defuses the threat of a wagon on Leaf for the day here.
The logic was perfectly sound, and in fact was the correct move to make considering FL died anyway.
I'm not entirely sure about that? Would scum really want to go to 3:1 today by having Leaf get voted out instead of town? I think you helped them out with that move. But it's kinda irrelevant now I guess, you didn't do it intentionally.
Hm? I feel scum being able to choose who to kill is of much stronger benefit than needing to manipulate the town to kill a townie. Maybe that's why FL did that claim, who knows
"Am I a ghost like you, caught between the seams of two intertwining melodies?"
In post 333, JacksonVirgo wrote:
If I was a wolf, I would have opted to push FL rather than some random as that would mean I could kill whoever I pleased
I don't understand what you mean here? I thought we were all figuring that the other mafia must be a lazy compulsive vig/bg or something to that effect? Mafia shouldn't be able to kill since they have compulsive actions.
...wait, wasn't it Enchant who said that's probably what it was? Uh...
...I may need to think this over some more. Quite possibly it's just TMI I guess
Maybe I'm running with wacky assumptions about the gamestate lmao
"Am I a ghost like you, caught between the seams of two intertwining melodies?"
In post 313, Aureal wrote:
So Jackson successfully defuses the threat of a wagon on Leaf for the day here.
The logic was perfectly sound, and in fact was the correct move to make considering FL died anyway.
I'm not entirely sure about that? Would scum really want to go to 3:1 today by having Leaf get voted out instead of town? I think you helped them out with that move. But it's kinda irrelevant now I guess, you didn't do it intentionally.
Hm? I feel scum being able to choose who to kill is of much stronger benefit than needing to manipulate the town to kill a townie. Maybe that's why FL did that claim, who knows
Aureal made me realise.
Mafia simple forced to no-kill if mafia elimmed. That's why they have N2 compulsive actions.
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In post 313, Aureal wrote:
So Jackson successfully defuses the threat of a wagon on Leaf for the day here.
The logic was perfectly sound, and in fact was the correct move to make considering FL died anyway.
I'm not entirely sure about that? Would scum really want to go to 3:1 today by having Leaf get voted out instead of town? I think you helped them out with that move. But it's kinda irrelevant now I guess, you didn't do it intentionally.
Hm? I feel scum being able to choose who to kill is of much stronger benefit than needing to manipulate the town to kill a townie. Maybe that's why FL did that claim, who knows
Aureal made me realise.
Mafia simple forced to no-kill if mafia elimmed. That's why they have N2 compulsive actions.
Can you explain like I'm 5?
"Am I a ghost like you, caught between the seams of two intertwining melodies?"
In post 313, Aureal wrote:
So Jackson successfully defuses the threat of a wagon on Leaf for the day here.
The logic was perfectly sound, and in fact was the correct move to make considering FL died anyway.
I'm not entirely sure about that? Would scum really want to go to 3:1 today by having Leaf get voted out instead of town? I think you helped them out with that move. But it's kinda irrelevant now I guess, you didn't do it intentionally.
Hm? I feel scum being able to choose who to kill is of much stronger benefit than needing to manipulate the town to kill a townie. Maybe that's why FL did that claim, who knows
Aureal made me realise.
Mafia simple forced to no-kill if mafia elimmed. That's why they have N2 compulsive actions.
Can you explain like I'm 5?
If you look at FL role, there's two Night 1 compulsive actions. If Aureal would be executed D1, then FL would be forced to use Fruit Vendor, while still not being able to kill. Thus resulting in 3vs1. THEN we elim and FL forced to use Visitor. Ergo 2vs1.
Night 2 Compulsive action is worthless, unless we elimmed scum. Elimming scum n1 leaded to mafia unability to perform kill.
... Or it's only in FL case. That's why he played so agressively.
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