Mini 2331 - Touhou UPick: Anonymous Edition (Game Over)

[Sanae Kochiya]

Sanae before you die are you still convinced Kaguya is scum?

I wouldnt say convinced, but for sure in my pool

[Yuuka Kazami]

Reads are in 3699, nothing much has changed from my POV beyind a niggling fear the mechanics/mech clears are not as simple as they seem

Gl gl
Really empathize with the 'ceasing to be my problem' bit

Besides the bit about the mech clears not being as simple as they seem.
Like, what exactly could Koishi/Aya have been doing that doesn't make it crystal clear?
Aya says they redirected all night actions (or something like that) to Larvae, who promptly died and Koishi claimed a protective before.
Larvae is very unlikely to have taken a dive to get scum into a better position.

We have 2 mech clears, was there anyone else that was mechanically cleared that I missed?

[Clownpiece]

Marisa-senpai!!!

[Sanae Kochiya]

Can you tell I'm just sitting in front of my computer monitor nervously refreshing this thread hoping that something will happen to take me out of the misery that is not knowing whether I'm making the right choice or not? I think it should be possible to tell based on the timestamps of my posts.

I mean you aren't, but the indecisiveness is probably townie

[Marisa Kirisame]

Clownpiece-Chan!

[Marisa Kirisame]

I mean you aren't, but the indecisiveness is probably townie

I am not what?

[Marisa Kirisame]

Oh, making the right decision.

[Clownpiece]

Hihi!!!

[Marisa Kirisame]

Wanna sell me on Reisen?

[Marisa Kirisame]

Hihi!!!

Wait I wanted to speak with you but I've completely forgotten my entire thought process so wait a minute as I recover it

[Sanae Kochiya]

Reads are in 3699, nothing much has changed from my POV beyind a niggling fear the mechanics/mech clears are not as simple as they seem

Gl gl
Really empathize with the 'ceasing to be my problem' bit

Besides the bit about the mech clears not being as simple as they seem.
Like, what exactly could Koishi/Aya have been doing that doesn't make it crystal clear?
Aya says they redirected all night actions (or something like that) to Larvae, who promptly died and Koishi claimed a protective before.
Larvae is very unlikely to have taken a dive to get scum into a better position.

We have 2 mech clears, was there anyone else that was mechanically cleared that I missed?

More out of a slight paranoia that the game doesn't fully make sense if we take them two and clown out of the pool

Not really from a mechanical perspective, more from a reads/gamestate perspective

[Clownpiece]

Hihi!!!

Wait I wanted to speak with you but I've completely forgotten my entire thought process so wait a minute as I recover it

I’ll be around

[Marisa Kirisame]

Reads are in 3699, nothing much has changed from my POV beyind a niggling fear the mechanics/mech clears are not as simple as they seem

Gl gl
Really empathize with the 'ceasing to be my problem' bit

Besides the bit about the mech clears not being as simple as they seem.
Like, what exactly could Koishi/Aya have been doing that doesn't make it crystal clear?
Aya says they redirected all night actions (or something like that) to Larvae, who promptly died and Koishi claimed a protective before.
Larvae is very unlikely to have taken a dive to get scum into a better position.

We have 2 mech clears, was there anyone else that was mechanically cleared that I missed?

More out of a slight paranoia that the game doesn't fully make sense if we take them two and clown out of the pool

Not really from a mechanical perspective, more from a reads/gamestate perspective

I kinda agree with this

[Sanae Kochiya]

Wanna sell me on Reisen?

(Just pointing out that from my POV we've already done this a few times and you've promoptly ignored and/or dismissed what I've said)

Reisen is basically a non-entity and is not solving, and is sitting exactly in that under the radar sweet spot where I think scum might be

Sitting on Ichirin for the entirety of day1 when that was sliding towards being the end of day lim is also scummy positioning

Can you name any of Reisen's reads now? What are they being townread for?

[Sanae Kochiya]

Like yeah I get the mechanics is clearing yada yada yada

I can't really explain the mechanics but the gamestate feels somewhat weird and wrong if we just put all 3 into the 'untouchable' town pool and I'm worried it's going to be a mistake ij endgame

If they all die before then, great

[Marisa Kirisame]

I’ll be around

Alright I have remembered

This entire day phase has revolved around a Sanae wagon. And I guess there's a good reason for it because she claimed she'll confirm herself and then didn't, and she has somewhat resigned herself to being the vote for today.

But I feel there's something off about it seeing that it got to 4 votes with 3 conftown off the wagon. So it makes it so either Sanae was scum with exactly one of Kagerou/Reisen, or there was scum on the wagon. Now obviously it's possible that scum would bus here, but the only person who I was scumreading on Sanae's wagon didn't sound like they were bussing (Kaguya), so I decided to assume Sanae was town and was pushed by Kaguya as a misfade. However right now I feel Kaguya is towny. So I guess my first question to you is how likely do you think Kaguya is scum?

[Marisa Kirisame]

(Just pointing out that from my POV we've already done this a few times and you've promoptly ignored and/or dismissed what I've said)

Sorry, I did read the case you've written on Reisen, I think I also said I could see it but wasn't sold but now on second thoughts maybe I meant to say it and didn't hit send? WHoops

[Sanae Kochiya]

(I got roleblocked/spellblocked in some way
Am resigned this because it's pretty clear this is where it's going, this slot cannot be in elo, and I've been talking to the ether for a week)

[Marisa Kirisame]

Like yes I understand that Reisen is coasting, but you're claiming they haven't done anything towny while Clown and I do get townvibes from their posting.

I'm actually not sure what's their read on you so I guess that is concerning. I do think they were townreading me and clown though? Ugh you do raise a point that I can't really remember their reads.

[Marisa Kirisame]

(I got roleblocked/spellblocked in some way
Am resigned this because it's pretty clear this is where it's going, this slot cannot be in elo, and I've been talking to the ether for a week)

Yeah I'm not blaming you I'm just talking my thoughts to Clown.

[Sanae Kochiya]

But yeah I don't know why none of Aya/Koishi/Clown were voting (Koishi is now as of an hour ago I know) but like indicated they were kinda good with it and everyone was just like yeah let's do that. That should indeed be a red flag

Also weird to me that Koishu/Aya were the last two, and deciding, votes yesterday as well

[Sanae Kochiya]

Like yes I understand that Reisen is coasting, but you're claiming they haven't done anything towny while Clown and I do get townvibes from their posting.

I'm actually not sure what's their read on you so I guess that is concerning. I do think they were townreading me and clown though? Ugh you do raise a point that I can't really remember their reads.

Right ... don't you think that's a problem at this point?

Why were they on Ichirin? Who knows

What do you think was townie about them?

[Marisa Kirisame]

So at the moment I’m thinking, koishi/clown/aya/kagerou/yuuka/marisa town

And everyone else is in a spot where they’re either scum or it doesn’t really matter numbers wise. Idk how many slots that leaves on the outside looking in.

TBH that's more or less what I thought

[Aya Shameimaru]

Kagerou strictly claimed their vig is unstoppable and so 100% killed Tensi.

Which means for the scum kill to have happened as it did it was the scum night kill. No one else has claimed it at all.

As a result unless someone else wants to try and pretend their night action did the outcome the claims LITERALLY prove it.

[Sanae Kochiya]

Although I do think if I were scum I'd be bussed here, can't imagine why I wouldn't be

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Right and isn't that a concerning townlist at this point?