Mini 2331 - Touhou UPick: Anonymous Edition (Game Over)

[Marisa Kirisame]

I was Sanae still

wdym?

[Sanae Kochiya]

I'm not clown piece, but I'd be looking at Clown, Kagerou, Marisa, Kaguya.

With an emphasis on Kagerou.

Clown and Marisa I actually think are town on reads

Why?

Clown 1.0 was incredibly townie
Marisa - I don't know why she keeps flashwagoning as scum, or why she would start a wagon on me end of day1, and I think the indecisiveness is townie

[Sanae Kochiya]

I was Sanae still

Like, why

[Marisa Kirisame]

Anyway I won't be voting any wagon without Clown also voting it

[Marisa Kirisame]

And clown is apparently not voting any wagon without Aya's approval I guess?

[Marisa Kirisame]

I'm assuming 4098 is approval from Aya though to kill Sanae?

[Sanae Kochiya]

Yes

[Marisa Kirisame]

Oh well Sanae I think rationally the only play that won't cause me to spiral into endless paranoia and regret is to flip you today and if you're town then tomorrow everybody is on the same page of you being town and can solve based on that.

[Marisa Kirisame]

But I'm not voting until Clown votes.

[Koishi Komeiji]

Yeah unfortunately this is how we have to proceed. Damned game state. The aya asspull was literally the only reason we will be in this tomorrow if sanae town.

[Sanae Kochiya]

I know, that's literally why I'm not trying to get out of this. It's going to be impossible for anyone to reset till that happens and it's better for the game overall if I get limmed even though I'm town

That's why I'm 'resigned' as you called it

I really, really hope there's some consideration of what I've been saying after I flip, but eh.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I'm not clown piece, but I'd be looking at Clown, Kagerou, Marisa, Kaguya.

With an emphasis on Kagerou.

Clown and Marisa I actually think are town on reads

Why?

Clown 1.0 was incredibly townie
Marisa - I don't know why she keeps flashwagoning as scum, or why she would start a wagon on me end of day1, and I think the indecisiveness is townie

I see what you mean with Marisa, though, in town Sanae world there isn't much reason not to develop a third wagon on town either.
It's a different, more unique niche sure, since they could just have filtered down to the "other" wagon, but scum may have already figured out who they wanted to shoot later, so being on Koishi would have hurt their credibility too.
So enter Sanae, 3rd credibility shot. It's a bit reachy of me to think that way though.

[Sanae Kochiya]

Yeah unfortunately this is how we have to proceed. Damned game state.

The aya asspull was literally the only reason we will be in this tomorrow if sanae town.

What do you mean

[Koishi Komeiji]

As in, we can be wrong twice but there's still a scum down so we aren't in early endgame scenarios.

[Sanae Kochiya]

Also @koishi part of why I think you can be scum here is that I think you should be able to see I'm town

[Marisa Kirisame]

Also I think I wanna go to sleep early tonight so I'll be leaving you all to get ready to sleep.

[Clownpiece]

Anyway I won't be voting any wagon without Clown also voting it

I'll give you my blessings for Sanae but I'm staying offwagon intentionally.
I cannot explain the reasons on a future day phase.

[Sanae Kochiya]

Yeah
That's also why I'm not fighting this so hard, it'll be like 6:2 and not 5:3 tomorrow hopefully

[Yuuka Kazami]

You can't?

[Clownpiece]

cannot explain the reasons till a future day phase*
oops

[Clownpiece]

You will see

[Sanae Kochiya]

Also @koishi part of why I think you can be scum here is that I think you should be able to see I'm town

Like you're very competant and you're kinda just letting it happen

[Daiyousei]

hi i had an epiphany and realized it would be silly to try to get myself offed after a mafia sanae flip so scratch that plan rofl

Maybe Daiyousei is a good someone to think with. Daiyousei, who do you think is scum if we assume that Sanae is town?

my brain has admittedly stagnated but most likely yuuka for the reasons i outlined in my day-opening post

i don't recall seeing anything from yuuka today that has made me change my mind on that slot

[Koishi Komeiji]

Also @koishi part of why I think you can be scum here is that I think you should be able to see I'm town

Like you're very competant and you're kinda just letting it happen

Even so, you absolutely need to be flipped because I won't believe it until I am SURE (tm) and the way that happens is we flip you. I think an investigative needs to be elsewhere in the center.

I'm sorry, if you're town I get the blues but I won't believe it without the certainty.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Yeah
That's also why I'm not fighting this so hard, it'll be like 6:2 and not 5:3 tomorrow hopefully

This seems disingenuous to me, given a lot of your play this day phase can be summed up as "you're wrong, try again x(?)3-4"
Not that I find this scummy. I don't find struggling scummy, if anything I find it modestly townie.
So hesitating a lot here. But false dichotomies are for the birds. Even if you're town, I'm town and you ultimately didn't see that.

It occurs to me that we're on evens, right? So scum didn't have as much of a reason not to role block you.

Then again, without knowing Kagerou's relationship to the game it's hard to know why they would know we'd land on evens.