there is no game integrity

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there is no game integrity

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2024 3:10 am

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I heard people were talking about game integrity as if it was real. While it can be real it currently is not real because we allow replacements which inherently compromises game integrity.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2024 3:10 pm

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What is your point here? That we should stop allowing replacements in order to preserve game integrity? That we should stop worrying about other ways that game integrity can be harmed?
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:47 pm

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Outrageous! I will not elaborate further!
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:40 pm

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I also don't understand what you mean.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2024 11:32 am

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we should improve society somewhat
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2024 12:32 pm

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i do wish replacing out was reserved for very extreme circumstances but that's just the competitor in me
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:22 pm

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I find replacements to be a unique and fun aspect of forum mafia.
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:31 pm

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let's not pretend that there's any integrity in playing this game whatsoever.
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:52 pm

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Intrinsic and extrinsic motivations all occur within the mind. That is to say, that if the mind is not motivated to believe that there is a game, then there is no game. This already calls in to question where the necessity of the concept of 'integrity' would come in to play, as it has semantically unique interpretations that must be instantiated externally, by way of the minds of others: which you are not privy to, and therefore are unable to confirm the existence of from within your own perspective.

If the integrity of the game would need to be called in to question, it might be better to first consider that your mind is not correctly setting the parameters for what is being considered as a game. The instant you have become internally motivated to question the integrity of the game itself, you are, by necessity, calling in to question the game as it is perceived inside of your mind. Once the game has been called in to question, it is both more logical and more productive (for your own sake, as it is easiest to confirm your own perspective rather than others') to call in to question whether the game exists at all, as it would better inform you as to whether its integrity is questionable for reasons that exist entirely outside of your mind, or for reasons that have the potential to exist entirely inside your mind.
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2024 5:33 am

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Hear Hear
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:51 pm

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i just lost the game

also isn't a game which is inherently deceptive not going to have game integrity?
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:47 pm

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In post 7, humaneatingmonkey wrote: let's not pretend that there's any integrity in playing this game whatsoever.
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:19 pm

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In post 4, Gypyx wrote: we should improve society somewhat
We live in a society
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Mon Apr 08, 2024 3:22 am

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theoretically, a mod can enable "hardass" mode where replacing out means your slot is now flipped - griefing the players remaining in the game but also discouraging replace outs entirely
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Mon Apr 08, 2024 3:28 am

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who does this benefit
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Mon Apr 08, 2024 4:03 am

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a community who wants to punish replace-outs because they value game integrity
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Mon Apr 08, 2024 2:03 pm

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time to replace in
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Mon Apr 08, 2024 2:33 pm

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In post 15, humaneatingmonkey wrote: a community who wants to punish replace-outs because they value game integrity
didn't you just say that there is no game integrity
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Mon Apr 08, 2024 2:40 pm

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what are you doing? why are you scumhunting me? back off
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 2:28 am

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you are no longer worth my time to engage on this topic
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