Open 906: AAAAAAHHHH I Ran out of Game Names!!! [Game Over]

[KayJayQueue]

Boo

[fireisredsir]

i feel bad ignoring purple's efforts i guess. sorry will look through stuff in a bit

[halfasleep]

• kjq: still the scummiest-looking to me. driving force behind the gimli mislim (jackson didn't start heavily scumreading the black/gimli slot until it was a matter of defending/siding with their main townread). we've lost if it's kay though so i hope i'm wrong.

• purplemango: very resistant to expressing opinions of his own rather than just responding to others'. very resistant to voting ever. noncommital enough that he could be plausibly paired with anyone and not be obvious at all. and from skimming over previous games it looks like this is all completely NAI for him so i'm right back where i started. not sure i'd ever be able to read his alignment tbh.

• thomith: coming into the uneviable position of having to follow on from jupiter's reaction to the 'perspective slip' situation (which i think i chose to take as charitably as possible just to move on at the time, but it's kinda hard to overlook on reread), but their own posting doesn't have anything scummy in it to me. all the solving attempts look completely honest to me (i assume this is sorta what jackson meant when they said thom looked like they's 'positioned as uninformed', in which case i agree). predecessor makes it hard to completely write off the slot as town though.

• ming: still thinking that scum-ming probably doesn't bother to resist the purple-wagon so that looks good. but then he puts me back on the rollercoaster by pretending not to know why i scumread him so hard (e-1? d1? with no acknowledgement? ring no bells?). who knows man. probably the most likely to be town of these four but idk.

yeah going over d1 again pretty much gave me nothing new. 95% it's not fire or jackson so it's two out of the four above. i can't pair 'em up well enough to get to any conclusion as to who. sorry if this post seems more confused than coherent but that's where i'm at.

basically gotten lost in d2 since i can't fully follow the logic following the jake kill. i understand the assumption that it would come from me/fire/thomith on the logic that we were on the ming wagon and scum might not want to kill within their own assumed voting block. but this is being conflated with with the issue of who would've picked up on jake's possible hints that he was a mason, and seemingly to the exact same conclusion. i don't understand the method of reading who would be capable of seeing that. is it based on personality? experience (which wouldn't really track)? i genuinely just don't follow it. that's all i got.

[fireisredsir]

there's like a specific reason why i think you would have caught a soft and if it's wrong it's like very unfortunate but i also think it's probably better not to talk about it too much unfortunately

[fireisredsir]

i actually wasn't making the assumption at all that scum was on the ming wagon. what posts gave you the impression people were thinking that?

[fireisredsir]

 i understand the assumption that it would come from me/fire/thomith on the logic that we were on the ming wagon and scum might not want to kill within their own assumed voting block. 

i don't really understand where this came from at all

[halfasleep]

i actually wasn't making the assumption at all that scum was on the ming wagon. what posts gave you the impression people were thinking that?

This kill comes from someone specific. I can’t think of who yet but one in fire/asleep/thom.

jackson said this before pivoting into talking about the 'soft'. is there another obvious connection between these three players that i'm missing?

[fireisredsir]

VC 1.17

Votecount 1.17

awesomeming327 (4):

Gimli, Thomith, halfasleep, fireisredsir

[E-1]

Gimli (4):

KayJayQueue, JacksonVirgo, Jake The Wolfie, awesomeming327

[E-1]

Not Voting (1):

Purplemango

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is in

(expired on 2024-03-26 01:07:06).

Mod Notes

I made a double VC cause I'm going back to sleep now so I won't be able to make one later. Goodnight! And also goodnight to Americans, surprisingly.

I'm not sure that this VC makes sense in a Purple/halfasleep world?
Why would either not hammer in this scenario, as they would know both wagons are town?

why would they hammer? the wagons aren't going to pivot onto scum

[JacksonVirgo]

i actually wasn't making the assumption at all that scum was on the ming wagon. what posts gave you the impression people were thinking that?

This kill comes from someone specific. I can’t think of who yet but one in fire/asleep/thom.

jackson said this before pivoting into talking about the 'soft'. is there another obvious connection between these three players that i'm missing?

I wasn’t at all thinking about the wagon formation

[fireisredsir]

i actually wasn't making the assumption at all that scum was on the ming wagon. what posts gave you the impression people were thinking that?

This kill comes from someone specific. I can’t think of who yet but one in fire/asleep/thom.

jackson said this before pivoting into talking about the 'soft'. is there another obvious connection between these three players that i'm missing?

id be interested to know if that's what jackson meant i guess

i had the exact same thought as him as soon as i saw the kill but it didn't have anything to do with the ming wagon so i assumed it wasn't about that

[fireisredsir]

well not as soon as i saw it

about 45 seconds later

[JacksonVirgo]

well not as soon as i saw it

about 45 seconds later

Details Matter

[JacksonVirgo]

i actually wasn't making the assumption at all that scum was on the ming wagon. what posts gave you the impression people were thinking that?

This kill comes from someone specific. I can’t think of who yet but one in fire/asleep/thom.

jackson said this before pivoting into talking about the 'soft'. is there another obvious connection between these three players that i'm missing?

id be interested to know if that's what jackson meant i guess

i had the exact same thought as him as soon as i saw the kill but it didn't have anything to do with the ming wagon so i assumed it wasn't about that

I thought my thought process was obvious, it’s speculation on the kill not the ming wagon

[KayJayQueue]

i actually wasn't making the assumption at all that scum was on the ming wagon. what posts gave you the impression people were thinking that?

This kill comes from someone specific. I can’t think of who yet but one in fire/asleep/thom.

jackson said this before pivoting into talking about the 'soft'. is there another obvious connection between these three players that i'm missing?

id be interested to know if that's what jackson meant i guess

i had the exact same thought as him as soon as i saw the kill but it didn't have anything to do with the ming wagon so i assumed it wasn't about that

I thought my thought process was obvious, it’s speculation on the kill not the ming wagon

Even I figured it out lol

[fireisredsir]

if i had made the connection immediately then that implies that im scum who was unsurprised by the kill

there was a thought process involved gotta be clear on that

[halfasleep]

i actually wasn't making the assumption at all that scum was on the ming wagon. what posts gave you the impression people were thinking that?

This kill comes from someone specific. I can’t think of who yet but one in fire/asleep/thom.

jackson said this before pivoting into talking about the 'soft'. is there another obvious connection between these three players that i'm missing?

id be interested to know if that's what jackson meant i guess

i had the exact same thought as him as soon as i saw the kill but it didn't have anything to do with the ming wagon so i assumed it wasn't about that

I thought my thought process was obvious, it’s speculation on the kill not the ming wagon

i see? (i don't). i assumed the kill was being connected to the ming wagon. i don't see the connection otherwise. i assume no explanation is forthcoming and i guess i'll have to take it on some level of good faith that there's a good reason for that. all can do is note my bafflement ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

[JacksonVirgo]

Are you purposefully misunderstanding?

[KayJayQueue]

Maybe she is more informed than we are and assumed town would realize scum was off the Gimli wagon and was trying to defend herself against something she wasn’t being accused of (yet)

[halfasleep]

Are you purposefully misunderstanding?

no. what is the connection between the jake kill and three specific players you identified with it?

[JacksonVirgo]

Are you trying to get me to slip up as to who I believe the other mason is?

[KayJayQueue]

Are you trying to get me to slip up as to who I believe the other mason is?

Don’t do it!

[halfasleep]

ok. so there's no answer you're willing to give. that's fine. why would you assume i understand your thinking in that case?

[Purplemango]

i feel bad ignoring purple's efforts i guess. sorry will look through stuff in a bit

Do you have anything to say about it?

[awesomeming327]

in my experience the people most passionately pushing mislims d1 are town
henceforth,

[KayJayQueue]

I’m good to pivot to sleepy, from my reads its the suboptimal elim but I’m willing to consolidate

Should we pivot? We’re getting nowhere. I don’t know what the best course of action is here.