Open 908: Aureal Is Hoarding All The Game Names | Game Over

[implosion]

if I'm a wolf I ain't that deep I'm moreso referring to his core trait this game being refusal to accept any form of status quo

This is exactly how I would describe his play in our last game together, where he was scum and both him and his partner were locked out fairly early

I don’t really see how this describes my play this game. I don’t think I’ve given any especially spicy takes except for on the worst right now, the only anti status quo thing I’m really doing is yelling at ducks stance that scum is clearly all in the lurkers because, among other reasons, it’s like a 5% chance fmpov

I’m not even disagreeing that there is scum in the lurkers! ceejay is in my scumpool and I said that nm is the weakest of my townreads, ie is in the scummier half of the rest of the player list

[implosion]

I'm really struggling to see "I'm exhausted" as anything but a joke I'm surprised you aren't latching onto his apparent instant townread of Klick

why would i latch on to this

because (bluntly) it actually feels meaningful.

Okay well I disagree lol

It’s not even clear that he’s townreading klick, he said klick ceejay is possibly scum theatre. I don’t read “good vote” and “bad vote” as necessarily meaning anything and frankly I think when I read nms posts the first time my brain literally ignored their content at the level of whose votes were being called good or bad or who those votes were on

[the worst]

you specifically shone a spotlight on townreads of dann as an act of anti status quo ness!

I'm really struggling to see "I'm exhausted" as anything but a joke I'm surprised you aren't latching onto his apparent instant townread of Klick

why would i latch on to this

because (bluntly) it actually feels meaningful.

Okay well I disagree lol

It’s not even clear that he’s townreading klick, he said klick ceejay is possibly scum theatre. I don’t read “good vote” and “bad vote” as necessarily meaning anything and frankly I think when I read nms posts the first time my brain literally ignored their content at the level of whose votes were being called good or bad or who those votes were on

pedit: I definitely think we disagree, I'm still like 99% sure the exhausted comment was part of the bit :p

[implosion]

implosion is either the messiah figure this town needs to root out the deepwolves, or he is scum, and I'm yearning to discover which

i also disagree w this btw. my d1 reads are normally garbage. my reads get better over time. Sometimes I have reads that I feel particularly good about d1 and they're probably alright, though sometimes they too are deeply wrong; in toriel's patience I had two pretty solid townreads d1 (dannflor and sakura hana) which were on 2/3 of the scumteam. Which is part of why there's a part of me that refuses to accept any townreads on Dann right now as being legitimately >rand. Not that it's not possible to do so. I just don't think anything he's done is necessarily unmotivated in the way that I think he has to be at some point to be town, if that makes sense. I'm probably not going to be able to get a solid read on him for a long time personally

[implosion]

you specifically shone a spotlight on townreads of dann as an act of anti status quo ness!

i shone a spotlight on the person who was already calling out those townreads. that's hardly an act of anti status quo ness, it's an act of amplifying a voice that currently exists that i like the message of

[implosion]

pedit: I definitely think we disagree, I'm still like 99% sure the exhausted comment was part of the bit :p

yes it was obviously a bit. i understand that.

[Aureal]

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Current Votes

ceejayvinoya (3/5)

-> Klick (58), Bingle (77), Dannflor (319)

the worst (2/5)

-> Black (386), implosion (388)

implosion (2/5)

-> Political Clout (306), the worst (337)

Bingle (1/5)

-> ceejayvinoya (135)

Not_Mafia (1/5)

-> Not_Mafia (37)

Not Voting (0)

-> None

With 9 seekers, it takes 5 votes to remove someone from play.

The day deadline is 10 days ((expired on 2024-04-04 21:13:32) remaining.

[the worst]

implosion is either the messiah figure this town needs to root out the deepwolves, or he is scum, and I'm yearning to discover which

i also disagree w this btw. my d1 reads are normally garbage. my reads get better over time. Sometimes I have reads that I feel particularly good about d1 and they're probably alright, though sometimes they too are deeply wrong; in toriel's patience I had two pretty solid townreads d1 (dannflor and sakura hana) which were on 2/3 of the scumteam. Which is part of why there's a part of me that refuses to accept any townreads on Dann right now as being legitimately >rand. Not that it's not possible to do so. I just don't think anything he's done is necessarily unmotivated in the way that I think he has to be at some point to be town, if that makes sense. I'm probably not going to be able to get a solid read on him for a long time personally

oh god my condolences, welcome to the dannflor fannclub

[the worst]

idk the more I reflect back on Black's interrogation of me the more I like it. it felt like she felt like she had an ace and she was playing back to back opening traps, then before committing to a checkmate attack, just picked up a pawn and pelted it at my head. like I can see why I'm perplexing and ostensibly scummy here from the perspective of someone who likes to drill down. I don't really enjoy reflecting, I change my mind constantly and place very little interest in my old opinions, so I don't think thats a style of conversation where I'm ever going to perform satisfactorily.

implo it kinda feels like you're forcing a "gotcha" vibe through the definition of my use of probably in a throwaway sentence which I then contradicted. like, within the sentence. you also don't disagree with the conclusion (you actively scumread cjv, apparently think we are scum together, and nm is not outside of your eventual natural POE) but I don't really know how to meet you anywhere on this. it kinda feels like you decided I was evil when black voted me and we've kinda been throwing words back at each other.

sorry if you're town I really enjoy your style and you're super cool. we just aren't gelling here at all and I'm kind of just in a place where I think it's probably bc you want me dead.

[Not_Mafia]

Wrong take away from that interaction imho

What's the right takeaway?

ceejay scum

[Black]

I think black is the only person I've seen who is like, outright hard townreading dann atm

It's not a hard townread

[Black]

I don't have enough confidence in my ceejay read to really defend him here but it seems like that's the direction we're headed

[Bingle]

Not gonna lie, ceejay not doing anything here is giving me the warm fuzzies about the wagon being good.

[Bingle]

Wrong take away from that interaction imho

What's the right takeaway?

ceejay scum

That’s the same takeaway though

[the worst]

unsure if my ego is flaring but I'm so excited to play with ceejay and he is wholesale ignoring me which feels like he's not on the level

[Bingle]

My only hesitation with ceejay is that, like, no one is making significant moves to defend him. Granted, he wouldn’t be giving a buddy much to work with here and even still there’s been multiple attempts at starting other wagons.

[Bingle]

With that said, I’m interested in delaying the lim a couple days to give him a chance to reflect on his wagon.

[Dannflor]

don't think ceejay/NM make that much sense because even though NM is crazy and wild I think he also generally probably plays to win and bussing your buddy when you're both considered to be in the bottom 3 slots is kind of a wack strategy

ceejay/implo makes a lot more sense because implo is doing pretty much exactly what he'd need to be doing as scum by distancing but still primarily pushing in the more active players

if there's like 1 scum in the active players and 1 scum in the inactive players i don't think the active scum would be hard defending CJ........... they might.... make posts like.... 440 tho....

[the worst]

My only hesitation with ceejay is that, like, no one is making significant moves to defend him. Granted, he wouldn’t be giving a buddy much to work with here and even still there’s been multiple attempts at starting other wagons.

implosion, probably arguably me if we assume I'm not trying very hard

[the worst]

don't think ceejay/NM make that much sense because even though NM is crazy and wild I think he also generally probably plays to win and bussing your buddy when you're both considered to be in the bottom 3 slots is kind of a wack strategy

ceejay/implo makes a lot more sense because implo is doing pretty much exactly what he'd need to be doing as scum by distancing but still primarily pushing in the more active players

if there's like 1 scum in the active players and 1 scum in the inactive players i don't think the active scum would be hard defending CJ........... they might.... make posts like.... 440 tho....

[Dannflor]

yo bingle why does your read on me feel so contrived

[Dannflor]

like first of all your basis just seems to be that there isn't much to town read but it seems like you'd have a pretty high bar for town reading me anyway so that can't be all of it

but then a bunch of people were like "hey we just finished a game with scum!dann and this feels different" and you were like, no actually this game is pretty much exactly the same and then like.... didn't interrogate that difference at all

which like it's fine if you don't want to kill me right now I'd prefer that, but if you cared about the read at all idk why you wouldn't try to get people to understand why their town!dann bias might be wrong

also like is your view on my slot that i've actually been shotgunning meh takes left and right this game? i feel like i have a substantial lack of takes which yeah obviously i'm aware enough as a player to fake the difference but that just makes it weirder you wouldn't acknowledge the difference between this game and my last scum game

[the worst]

one sec I got a thing

[the worst]

Bingle/Dann is the scumteam I'm so sad

[Dannflor]

yeah i knew that was coming