Shell Game (Day 3)
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I know Cephrir gets grouchy when people assumes things like "there must be scum in the hood"
But creating a setup that strongly alludes to dethy (if not explicitly) and also essentially threatening town if they don't eliminate scum within it feels remarkably punishing if there isn't scum, even for him-
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I think we are intended to assume the Dethy situationIn post 1249, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
What do you think Klick?In post 1246, Sunflower wrote:
i didn't ever think it was a for sure thing. i said it was the most elegant. but i am not particularly willing to take it for granted that we can make assumptions hereIn post 1244, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
I'm kind of confused. do you not think there's 1 scum in the hood anymore?In post 1239, Sunflower wrote: also we didn't decide it's a dethy we were like "hey this is kinda like dethy". which. it isn't dethy. can we stop pretending it's dethy im so tired
...though literally right this second it has occurred to me that the 'Shell Game' could be quite literal within the context of the Dethy, and there is no shell
I don't think marci, ActionDan, or STD are scum-
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idk i still think shell game means that there's a power to swap people in and out of the hoods
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I don't know. You'd have to consider whether that's the direction Ceph would take things, and with the advertising of this game I wouldn't rule out 0 scum under the current parameters
I'm not in a particularly rationsl state of mind for that analysis-
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Was there more to ActionDan beyond the initial mindmeld over 0/1 scum in hood?In post 1252, Klick wrote: I don't think marci, ActionDan, or STD are scum-
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i think that town!klick is capable of finding scum!me. he did it very well recently
i think regardless of alignment he knows that he doesn't have reason to think im scum here
the difference is that i think if he's town he would also know that if we're both town there's a decent chance we can find each other. the fact that he doesn't have reason to think im scum would make him doubt. im on the other side here, not fully confident that klick is scum, and that makes me question AD and marci
the way that his reads on AD and marci progressed from hesitancy/uncertainty to full-on confidence isn't supported and just isn't really believable to me coming from town!klick
this is what i mean by calling the play positional. i think that those reads became solidified out of necessity and not out of justified reason. and i don't think that's how town!klick plays
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All of the above feel Town due to reactions and interactions surrounding the dethy neighborhood.
I am leaning towards Sunflower being the scum in the hood but am not comfortable writing off Klick and especially STD based on his lack of main thread presence.
Pooky's explanation for his frustration during the initial dethy hyper-posting feels genuine to me. I think scum!Pooky leans into the chaos there and tries to blend into the crowd, but instead he calls out why he thinks the dethy shenanigans are damaging to the game state and has a heart-to-heart with morph and I just don't think he bothers to do either of those things as scum.
Brian's return to the thread leaves a lot to be desired, feels like he's just going through the motions and while we love a solid town read on me I expect Brian to be a bit more wary given our history and how many people are scum reading me at this point? I understand this game has moved incredibly fast and it can be hard to keep up, but even after his catchup I don't see an effort to sort or engage with anyone. His provided thoughts post-catchup feel very surface level and cobbled together because he needed to have opinions.
Maybe I feel this way because it's me but I can't help but notice that I have conveniently taken a nosedive in Sunflower and Ydrasse's reads ever since the contingent of strong Town Reads I listed above started pressuring me!
Everyone that I haven't mentioned so far has really faded into the background for me so I'd like to table the dethy discussion and put more focus on the null/scummy slots outside of it, even if we ultimately settle on eliminating from the hood.
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I think this is gonna be like Kemusan when i'm reading like half of the first day and then i'm alive at ELo and god i wish i would have put more effort into the early gameWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Still curious about your explanation for scum reading me if you could give that.In post 390, Spiffeh wrote:
I am not looking to get into a battle to the death. I don't find your hesitance to townread me all that surprising given our recent history, and I actually think certain players have given me a free pass this game that I haven't earned (which I will address at some point), since nothing I've really done has been outside of my scum range imoIn post 360, Gypyx wrote:
I'd rather die than scumcase someone after the disaster that have been my reads latelyIn post 354, Spiffeh wrote:
You might have more luck if you explain why you’re NOT Town reading me and seeing how people respond vs. calling me scum with no explanation and expecting people to feel the same way!In post 345, Gypyx wrote: I'd be curious as to why people are townreading spiffeh if anyone is
it's also more of me not seeing it so like, i wanna know, not engaging in a battle to the death with u
I do take issue with your initial (seemingly) confident scum read on me crumbling immediately upon calling you out and asking you to elaborate.
I'd love to rekindle what we had in Kemusan if you're Town here, so a good first step would be to explain why you're scum reading me, or actually doing something about it!
You'll find that you are no longer alone in those sentiments if that makes you feel better!Q•U•E•E•N•U•P•T•O•O•L•A•T•E•2•0•1•7-
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BTW morph and Luke I believe I figured out why I had it in my head that was morph engaging Luke early on and not the other way aroundIn post 330, morph the cat wrote:
I did!In post 326, Lukewarm wrote:
You had an exact number of name placements you were disagreeing with.In post 324, morph the cat wrote: specific?
Heh!
I don't know. It seemed unaware of the content of pooky's prior posts in a way that seemed particularly out of character for you. I was worried that it could be that you are scum, and was hoping to get you to voice what lead you to making that post, so I could judge that instead of trying to just guess at how you got there, but it feels like you have been dancing around that question.You've put some thought into matching Pooky's list to what was going on during the first few pages. I think you know me as a player about as well as you do Pooky. How does my taking partial exception to Pooky's list fit with your understanding of my playstyle?
Well, I got what I wanted out of this convo, and so did Cabd. Consider your day 3 ticket punched.
I think I just missed Luke's initial post in my skimming but saw the one quoted above where ffery mentions she got what she needed out of the convo which felt to me like she was the one who initiated with the intention of getting a read on Luke in the first place
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Well, to put it in a few words my reads lately haven't been stellar, so i kinda lacked the confidence to push through and assert my readIn post 1263, Spiffeh wrote:
Still curious about your explanation for scum reading me if you could give that.In post 390, Spiffeh wrote:
I am not looking to get into a battle to the death. I don't find your hesitance to townread me all that surprising given our recent history, and I actually think certain players have given me a free pass this game that I haven't earned (which I will address at some point), since nothing I've really done has been outside of my scum range imoIn post 360, Gypyx wrote:
I'd rather die than scumcase someone after the disaster that have been my reads latelyIn post 354, Spiffeh wrote:
You might have more luck if you explain why you’re NOT Town reading me and seeing how people respond vs. calling me scum with no explanation and expecting people to feel the same way!In post 345, Gypyx wrote: I'd be curious as to why people are townreading spiffeh if anyone is
it's also more of me not seeing it so like, i wanna know, not engaging in a battle to the death with u
I do take issue with your initial (seemingly) confident scum read on me crumbling immediately upon calling you out and asking you to elaborate.
I'd love to rekindle what we had in Kemusan if you're Town here, so a good first step would be to explain why you're scum reading me, or actually doing something about it!
You'll find that you are no longer alone in those sentiments if that makes you feel better!
haven't read your recent posts but basically this game, you feel like you're trying to reproduce your town style instead of actually being town?White Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Can you point out some posts that make you feel that way?Q•U•E•E•N•U•P•T•O•O•L•A•T•E•2•0•1•7-
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Is there a post recapping the whole hood situation cause i'm kinda not in the mood to dig through 40 pagesWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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That kinda was all that
especially it's a bit metagamey but in kemusan i mentionned TR'ing you for saying you got a town PM, and the way you're doing it here feels very deliberateWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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I proclaim myself as Town in most games as either alignment, I'm sure several players could attest to that.Q•U•E•E•N•U•P•T•O•O•L•A•T•E•2•0•1•7-
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Do you have any strong reads, town or scum, outside of me?Q•U•E•E•N•U•P•T•O•O•L•A•T•E•2•0•1•7-
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Alright i'll bear that in mind, still the style difference is weirding me out a bit
pedit : I recall finding shello / CSF quite towny, dann i also wanted to make a deeper look into but i think he could very well be scumWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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What did you feel was Towny about Shello?Q•U•E•E•N•U•P•T•O•O•L•A•T•E•2•0•1•7-
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It's mostly the vibes around the slot / how they're going around solving the game? I see skitter still hasn't posted but i also wanted to give a lot of value in whatever read i ended up getting on ydra since my previous record when it comes to reading skitter correctly is... not good lolWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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FWIW I'm with you here, they did start calling you namesIn post 1122, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
no this is a dirty filthy lie and you know itIn post 1111, Oblivion wrote: Okay this is... an overeaction and a half. What is it even meant to say? It is clearly trying to speak about the manner in which you approach the game. The only player here being personally insulting, from its view, is you.
you knew exactly what you were doing when you decided to call me "slimy/conman/etc"
if you wanted to ask if this is how I play the game you could simply have said some shit like "does he always play like this?" or "what are some of his completed games I could have as a meta check"
instead you went straight to insulting to troll me and get a reaction because thats the type of person you are and I find it absolutely insufferable and DOUBLY so because now you're trying to pretend like you weren't trying to insult me to my face.
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