Shell Game (Day 3)

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: sircakez

Not sure I buy this is a slip but it's better than anything I got and cakez's response is weird and looks like a lie

[Dannflor]

What do you make of her 2555?

I think it's mildly towny

I think scum instinctually tries to look less sensitive to a couple votes

[Dannflor]

i don't really understand the luke/morph thing

Luke repeatedly said "yeah im gonna back off i don't want to pursue this further right now"

but morph was still like "OMG i don't want to keep talking about this lay off!1"

[Hermit Crab]

We had a really rough game where scums plan was to just blend in to the town and let them eat themselves alive and it is not best revisited

[morph the cat]

i don't really understand the luke/morph thing

Luke repeatedly said "yeah im gonna back off i don't want to pursue this further right now"

but morph was still like "OMG i don't want to keep talking about this lay off!1"

I'm pretty damn sure that was not about Luke.

I took a little exception to your post about lack of pressure, and I think neuterhalf probably did so too/more. I feel like we've applied a TON of pressure to at least one slot.

Votes are pressure, but they're not the only kind of pressure.

[Hermit Crab]

Ffery what are your thoughts on 1888

[morph the cat]

Ffery what are your thoughts on 1888

I feel like it's an accurate observation about spiffeh's concern with our read/reaction.

I also think spiffeh is almost as sensitive to scumreads as you are, and almost as driven to achieve UTR.

What are your thoughts?

[Hermit Crab]

I think that read feels like an easy way to call towb scummy but leave room to backtrack. My immediate reaction was the two are unaligned.

[morph the cat]

i think that sort of self-centeredness tends to be towny

How much pressure do you think Gypyx feels at this point?

not much

I don't think we've done a very good job building pressure on anyone this game

Firebringer was the closest thing to real pressure but even that was kinda fake

I think we personally have applied a LOT of pressure on at least one slot.

This is all by memory, which I shouldn't be depending on given how many holes my memory has atm. I should go back and look more closely, given the player overlap.

[morph the cat]

wrong tab above. I decided not to post that but Dannflor changed my mind with his comment about neuterhalf's self-imposed time-out.

I think that read feels like an easy way to call towb scummy but leave room to backtrack. My immediate reaction was the two are unaligned.

maybe so. she touched right on part of what bugged me about spiffeh especially after our read 180'd.

spiffeh townread me in a dance game where basically ALL of town were scumreading me. The only players besides Spiffeh that I recall offhand expressing townreads were scum. I eventually got paranoid of him

because

he townread me.

skitter was in that game, town, and scumread me all the way to my flip, iirc. firebringer, too. fireisredsir, three. STD four, BELL!!??!! five.

This game dynamic is very, very different. I'm not trying to draw parallels. but it's probably weighing on me in small ways even so.

I'm still mostly reading the ydra head here. It makes sense for town-skitter to be more cautious about reading me here. It probably makes sense for scum-skitter to play it noncommital, too.

[Dannflor]

that wasn't meant to be a jab at you

[morph the cat]

the last line of 2068 belonged in 2069, though.

[Shello and Goodbye]

Fwiw part of my approach is then proceeding to misread cabd in touhou also

~ skitter

[Firebagel]

What do you make of her 2555?

I think it's mildly towny

I think scum instinctually tries to look less sensitive to a couple votes

Hmmmm

Don't think I really agree, at least as far as what I expect from the kind of player I think she is. Taking a 'woe is me' approach certainly seems like something that could be in her scum wheelhouse.

[Spiffeh]

I love how much of a topic of conversation I am this game!

[Hermit Crab]

Spiffy the greatest compliment I’ve ever received is im like you

[Gypyx]

What do you make of her 2555?

I think it's mildly towny

I think scum instinctually tries to look less sensitive to a couple votes

i think she was extremely funny for doing that post and should be praised

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Fwiw part of my approach is then proceeding to misread cabd in touhou also

~ skitter

fwiw i thought it was rlly funny when I found out you were Sanae because her facial expression is exactly what I think your facial expression is when you read my posting in that game :3

[Spiffeh]

Spiffy the greatest compliment I’ve ever received is im like you

<3

[Gypyx]

Spiffy the greatest compliment I’ve ever received is im like you

I gotta look back at who tf was hermit crab in animalia

[morph the cat]

skitter was in that game, town, and scumread me all the way to my flip, iirc. firebringer, too. fireisredsir, three. STD four, BELL!!??!! five.

I was wrong about fireisred. She was scumreading me through most the first day before all the pairs were formed, but her last couple of posts about me were expressing a townlean.

I was out of the game IMMEDIATELY after all the pairings. Scum-Cabd-partner left the dance instantly to cut off my reads-development, since I was going to leave the dance, myself, once I did have more developed reads.

Town-Gypyx was also in the game, but never really stated an opinion of my alignment.

[morph the cat]

Fwiw part of my approach is then proceeding to misread cabd in touhou also

~ skitter

Did you suspect Koishi-2 was Cabd?

[Shello and Goodbye]

Figured it out at some point day1 pretty confidentally, i don't think i can pinpoint exactly where tho

But yeah i knew it was cabd and i was scumreading him

[Shello and Goodbye]

Fwiw part of my approach is then proceeding to misread cabd in touhou also

~ skitter

fwiw i thought it was rlly funny when I found out you were Sanae because her facial expression is exactly what I think your facial expression is when you read my posting in that game :3

>.>

[Shello and Goodbye]

But im still slughtly confused

That big post seems like discrediting morphs thoughts without actually pushing them.

Was the dephy stuff really such a shining star?

I think scum have a VERY hard time making that "realization" seem genuine and natural like they did. This coupled with the immediate transition into town locking certain players for their reactions to it (most of which I agreed with) felt very pro-Town.

I also liked them harping on Pooky for not understanding and them ultimately coming around to a Pooky townread based on his response.

I know ffery says I am overstating the mindmeld but the above is what sold me.

This is where I'm at with them.

I have experienced a game where scum!cabd crafted a series of crumbs for scum!marci to drop, for him to then spot, point at, call marci lock town for.

Which then garnered both cabd and marci town reads by both town!ffery and town!Notty.

If anyone could pull exactly what you are describing it would be cabd (he has done it before)

That is part of the reason why I think that a scum!morph puts scum!marci back on the table.

But all that being said, the overall reaction to my points leaves me feeling like falling back and letting them lead for the day is the right path.

So I think this kind of breaks down if there's a traitor in there, so i'm having a hard time seeing forming associative based reads on the hood

I do think marci is a lot more likely to be town in traitor-hood world thob

I'm kinda going back and forth on how I feel abt marci

~ skitter