Newbie 2130 - A Micro Normal [Game Over]

[TemporalLich]

Newbie 2130 - A Micro Normal

Modded by TemporalLich, backup modded by Skygazer

Reviewed by Skygazer and Gypyx

Playerlist:

1. dredruby
   
2. chibiyali
   
3. Doow
   
4. hasdgfas
   
5. LoveKilling
   
6. Hypershock
   
7. Radical Rat (SE)
   
8. Black (SE)
   
9. Bingle (SE)

Spoiler: Alive

Doow,

Vanilla Townie

,

survives and wins

Radical Rat,

Macho Townie

,

survives and wins

Spoiler: Dead

Hypershock,

Vanilla Townie

,

eliminated

Day 1
Bingle,

Town Doctor

,

died

Night 1
Black,

Mafia 1-shot Neapolitan

,

eliminated

Day 2
dredruby,

Town Neighborizer

,

died

Night 2
hasdgfas,

Vanilla Townie

,

eliminated

Day 3
LoveKilling,

Vanilla Townie

,

died

Night 3
chibiyali,

Mafia 1-shot Vanilla Cop

,

eliminated

Day 4

[TemporalLich]

Rules

(Adapted from northsidegal with some edits)

General

-Adhere to all site rules.
-Always play to win.
-Remember that this is a game - heated discussion is allowed, but personal attacks are not.
-If someone is being toxic and making the game unfun for you, please let the moderator know.
-Pretending to break the rules will be treated similarly as actually breaking the rules.
-Do not quote any out of game communication regarding this game - this includes but is not limited to your role PM, any PTs you have access to, and any other PMs I may send you.
-If you need to get my attention, please include "

@mod

" in your post or PM me.
-

This

(#0080FF) is my mod color. You can use it, if you want.
-

This

(#80FF00) is my mod color in PTs. You can use it, if you want.
-Do not use encryption, hidden text or excessively small text in your posts.
-Do not use any form of provable randomness. This includes dice tags, screenshots of random.org, etc. Saying you flipped a coin is okay, providing some sort of proof that you did isn’t.
-Day 1 will last for 10 days and all further days will last for 7 days, with night phases lasting 48 hours.
-Everyone can agree to a Fast Night to end the night earlier.
-Do not post in the game thread or any private topics following your death, with the exception of the dead thread.
-If you have the ability to edit your posts, do not do so.
-My decisions are final. If I feel you are violating any of the rules, I will take the appropriate action.
-Speculating about why people replaced out is considered angleshooting and is discouraged.
-Do not use the L-word. Alternatives include eliminate, exile, and execute. Please see this post for more information.
-As a general principle, whenever moderator action is required I will attempt to make the decision that has the least impact on the natural flow of gameplay. For example, force replacing instead of modkilling whenever possible.
-Have fun!

Voting

-All votes and unvotes must be in

bold

or in VOTE: vote tags, with vote tags being preferable.
-Votes in spoilers and quotes will not be counted.
-Abbreviations and nicknames are acceptable, as long as I can understand them.
-Elimination will occur when a majority (>50%) is reached. If no majority is reached before deadline, the day will end in a no elimination.
-Voting to end the day in a no-elimination requires only 50% of players, not >50%.
-Once a hammer has occurred, the game is in "twilight". Discussion may continue until I lock the thread but no further votes or unvotes will be counted.

Activity

-You are expected to make at least one game-relevant post every 48 hours. Players who go 48 hours without posting will be prodded.
-If you are prodded, you have 24 hours to post in-thread. If you do not respond within 24 hours, you will be replaced. Additionally, if I have to prod you 3 or more times, you will be replaced at my own discretion.
-Abuse of prod dodges will result in you being replaced at my own discretion.
-If you are going to be V/LA, please announce it in thread or PM me. If your V/LA will last 7 days or longer I may be forced to replace you. You may declare periodic V/LA (e.g. weekend V/LA).
-If you do not send me an action for the night, I will assume that you are not taking one.

Game Notes

-This is a Newbie Series game. Players are expected to be friendly and helpful to other players.
-Despite the lenient prod timer, it is still strongly recommended to make at least one game-relevant post every day, and ideally players should post multiple times per day.
-This is a Simple Normal game, indicating a low complexity game suitable for new players. Roles may only be from that list.
-Since this is a Simple Normal game, the alignment ratio for this game is fixed at 7 Town and 2 Mafia.
-At least one player has received the sample Vanilla Townie Role PM.
-This setup is guaranteed to contain only Town and Mafia alignments.
-All Private Topics have daytalk enabled.
-You may request a personal PT/notes PT.
-Scum have inherent multitasking. They are capable of performing the factional kill and using an ability on the same night.
-Scum are informed fully, they know each other's roles and may submit actions via PT.

-Sample VT and Mafia Goon Role PMs are listed here:

Spoiler: Sample Role PMs

Vanilla Townie

Newbie 2130 - A Micro Normal

---

Welcome, TemporalLich! You are a

Vanilla Townie

, aligned with the

Town

.

Abilities:
• You have no special abilities.

Win Condition:

•

You win when there are no longer any threats to the

Town

, and at least one

Townie

is still alive.

Please confirm this Role PM by replying with a summary of your role.

Mafia Goon

Newbie 2130 - A Micro Normal

---

Welcome, TemporalLich! You are a

Mafia Goon

, aligned with the

Mafia

.

Abilities:
• You have no special abilities.

Factional Abilities:
• You are a member of the Mafia,

[redacted]

. Your Private Topic is here:

[redacted]

• Each night, one member of the Mafia may perform the Mafia factional nightkill.

Win Condition:

•

You win when all the threats to the

Mafia

are gone and at least one

Mafioso

is still alive, or when nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Please confirm this Role PM by replying with a summary of your role.

[TemporalLich]

Simple

Normal rules have been updated. Games are now divided into Simple, Regular or Complex compartments, reflecting the kind of game you will be playing. Each has different rules regarding which roles and modifiers can be in the game, so it's important to know where you can find information.

You are playing a Simple Normal game. These games are designed to provide a newbie-friendly and traditional mafia experience, with little focus on setup speculation. A small list of roles and modifiers are allowed in these games. Please check the wiki to learn more about Simple games, including which roles and modifiers can be in this game.

Making sure you know these rules can be important for having a good experience in the game and ensures all players are on a level playing field. Please contact the game moderator if you have any questions.

[TemporalLich]

Introduction and Tips

Introduction and Tips

Thanks to Irrelephant11 and others for their contributions to these tips.

Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):

-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)

Key Concepts and Tips

Activity

Try to check in at least once a day.

Besides the activity requirements listed in the moderator's original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyone

plays

. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?

Site Meta

Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...

Random Voting Stage (RVS)

Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.

Voting, E-x, and Hammers

E-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from elimination. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at E-1 (1 vote away from an elimination) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that player's elimination. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to eliminate (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see E-2 and E-3 (2 votes away from elimination and 3 votes away from elimination, respectively).

Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being eliminated, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.

Claiming Your Role

It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at E-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.

Do not fake claim a power role as town!

While it may help you avoid getting eliminated, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counterclaiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get eliminated for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.

ELo

ELo is the shortened representation of “Eliminate or Lose.” ELo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to eliminate (“quickhammer”) and win the game.

Conclusion

Mafia is hard!

As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum.

That's okay!

Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".

This is a game.

Have fun!

[TemporalLich]

All Role PMs have been sent. I will start the game in 48 hours from this post or with 7/9 confirmations.

(expired on 2024-06-21 13:00:00)

9/7

[TemporalLich]

Day 1 has begun!

VC 1.0

Not voting: dredruby, chibiyali, Doow, hasdgfas, LoveKilling, Hypershock, Radical Rat, Black, Bingle

With 9 alive it takes 5 to eliminate.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2024-06-29 13:00:00) or when an elimination is reached.

[LoveKilling]

Hello how is everyone doing

[hasdgfas]

VOTE: Black

Very easy decision to open voting Don Corleone who was specifically nominated for their scum play in Newbie games.

[Radical Rat]

Welcome to forum.mafiascum.net new folks!

And welcome back old folks!

[Black]

VOTE: Black

Very easy decision to open voting Don Corleone who was specifically nominated for their scum play in Newbie games.

That's Donna Corleone to you

[Black]

Welcome newbies! If you have any questions about anything feel free to ask

VOTE: Bingle

[chibiyali]

Hello all!

I'm a dinosaur that hasn't played in a decade that is returning.

Also:

VOTE: Doow

She cannot be trusted. I know her!

[Radical Rat]

VOTE: Doow

Who am I to question the wisdom of a dinosaur?

[Doow]

AUCH that hurt Chibs . You are the one that mostly cant be trusted all tho you never lied to me before..

Hello all!

I'm a dinosaur that hasn't played in a decade that is returning.

Also:

VOTE: Doow

She cannot be trusted. I know her!

[Doow]

Hii All,

This is my first game on a forum and i need some time figuring out how the forum part of this game exactly works
But apparantly we are doing random votings? VOTE: Chibiyali
So i will return the favor.. I hope i did it right

Btw i do have some experience with social deduction games played WW and a Trusis before and currently mostly hosting them on discord.

[Radical Rat]

Hii All,

This is my first game on a forum and i need some time figuring out how the forum part of this game exactly works
But apparantly we are doing random votings? VOTE: Chibiyali
So i will return the favor.. I hope i did it right

Btw i do have some experience with social deduction games played WW and a Trusis before and currently mostly hosting them on discord.

How do you typically start in your Discord Werewolf games?

[Doow]

I play WW on BGA. But i am not sure i understand your question correct? You mean the random voting?

Hii All,

This is my first game on a forum and i need some time figuring out how the forum part of this game exactly works
But apparantly we are doing random votings? VOTE: Chibiyali
So i will return the favor.. I hope i did it right

Btw i do have some experience with social deduction games played WW and a Trusis before and currently mostly hosting them on discord.

How do you typically start in your Discord Werewolf games?

[dredruby]

Hey everyone, this is my first forum game too, so i'll need to get used to the format, but I am partially familiar with how Mafia games work.

VOTE: LoveKilling

[Radical Rat]

I play WW on BGA. But i am not sure i understand your question correct? You mean the random voting?

That's correct, I'm asking how you're used to handling the opening. Since you expressed unfamiliarity with RVS, I assume it's different?

[Doow]

Normally i would wait a bit longer before placing a vote to see if you can read a player by what he/she is telling. And both in Werewolves and Trusis there is mostly first a kill/night before you start voting. So it is based on a bit more information then Chibs just telling she knows me

That's correct, I'm asking how you're used to handling the opening. Since you expressed unfamiliarity with RVS, I assume it's different?
[/quote]

[Doow]

Oops sorry my quoting didnt went well #newbie

[chibiyali]

I play WW on BGA. But i am not sure i understand your question correct? You mean the random voting?

That's correct, I'm asking how you're used to handling the opening. Since you expressed unfamiliarity with RVS, I assume it's different?

There is less of an RVS stage in werewolves in the way we play it. But that is more related to our meta than anything else.

I'm not really familiar with it myself but I felt like giving it a go since I am a big fan of silly memes to get the game atmosphere up and running. And well, I don't know any of you so I have nothing to blame you guys for just yet.

I do hope that by the end of the game we all will have a bunch of friends and frienemies

[chibiyali]

Also, werewolves typically has synchronised voting. Trusis does not, but the meta in our group is more based on voting for clues/leads.

[Radical Rat]

I see, thank you for your insights, this will be noted on your files

[chibiyali]

Rude.