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[havingfitz]

And if Titus is scum...I think gera and Trace0n move to the top of my entertain (ie sus) list.

[NicoleAndDime]

The idea that scum wouldn't bus and then move wagons when they are able to get the ammunition/motivations to try and save their partner is frankly absurd to me

Like that's a completely plausible if not expected outcome from a scum player, but you are saying that makes them more likely town? Absurd

There's a difference between what you're describing and staying on the wagon at E-2 and agreeing that the day needs to end.

It's both "get towncred while partner is going down"
Like you said, as soon as the viable counterwagon started they stopped pushing tf entirely

Like listen to what you're describing lol

[NicoleAndDime]

Like you keep describing things with very surface level reasonings for scum

Like come on, you're better than this

[furtiveglance]

I can back a Titus vote for sure. I'm still not over her entrance wanting to focus on my slot and TheFool in 2840[\post] then she never mentions TF until the bizarre [post]3047 in which she's sure TF is town. Between the two posts she pushed me, and when that got no traction, over to Nicole.

VOTE: Titus[\v]

This is one of those where I wouldn't feel bad if Titus was town, because if so she read the game completely wrong.

[furtiveglance]

T3 please edit my post to fix the tags

[furtiveglance]

Like you keep describing things with very surface level reasonings for scum

Like come on, you're better than this

Am I tho

You've played with me before

[NicoleAndDime]

Like you keep describing things with very surface level reasonings for scum

Like come on, you're better than this

Am I tho

You've played with me before

Don't undersell yourself
You've been pretty good this game regardless only alignment atp at least

[NicoleAndDime]

I would be willing to compromise on Titus but not going to change votes yet

[Titus]

Meh, I am okay if I die. I need to do another vote pass. I don't feel furtiveglance is evil but I'll be annoyed if NicoleAndDime lives until the end.

My choice for the record was TF over Cathedral.

[Trace0n]

I wonder what the Enchant kill means

bro same lmao I am so confused by this kill

I was hoping it would be me but now that I have egg on my face with TF red flipping I knew scum wouldnt let me off the hook that easy lol

[Trace0n]

so yeah I know I look like dogshit rn but I do think the fact that the two wagons stalled the way they did means its POSSIBLE they were both scum

I mean scum have to have bussed TF theres no way that wagon ever goes thru like that unless some mates wanted bus cred

I get my slot probably cant go to endgame at this point but I will will do what I can to rehab my slot

furtive I think I owe you an apology like if that giga spearhead was an elaborate bus idk what to say ive been out fucking played like that is the biggest all in bus Ive seen in a long time if it is a bus

I know its gonna sound crazy but I kinda wanna just sheep furtive here and let him cook, if he wants to all in bus his mates we can re-evaluate his slot in ELO if thats his path to victory hes going for but I mean man that is some fucking commitment to a bus, Id be blown away

[Trace0n]

I plan to ISO both enchant and TF when I next have some solid uninterrupted time to review this game but I get if you guys think my slot is too dogshit to keep going. I am gonna do what I can to rehab myself here and get on track

[Trace0n]

VOTE: Cathedral

if I find any support for titus in my ISOs I will likely join there but I do think since we gained a tempo from the red flip yesterday it isn't a bad idea to just sort the cathedral slot now, unless they show up and actually start doing something

[Civil Scum]

I left out Nicole....I think she's in the entertain list...but towards the end of it.

Oh thank the lawd!

[Civil Scum]

The Firestarter/Titus slot has obviously been ridiculous all game.

My only hesitation there is that I haven’t figured out if TF/Nicole/Titus really makes sense.

Furtive has been making a lot of sense to me lately, and I’m happy to report that he is my one town read atm.

[Civil Scum]

I feel like if we take our time today, and especially if Nicole flips red, we have a good chance at figuring out who the third scum is.

[Civil Scum]

The other player I was thinking about during the night is geraintm. Despite thinking TheFool was revealed as mafia by DragonEater in a slip, geraint never voted TF, instead choosing more 'side quest' type votes. It looked weird then and still does. 3152 is bad logic. Enchant kill could makes sense if geraint is scum, or being framed.

This is a great point.

I remember Furtive asking once if Gera would vote for TF, and he said like ‘no, I’m happy voting for DE’ which was a little odd, but it was his case and whatever, and the main thrust of his accusation was DE praising TF for ‘working to move the game forward’ (which really was unearned imo), and that does implicate DE more than TF in isolation.

But I actually missed the post that Furtive linked above which has Gera unvoting DE because of TF’s claim.

The reasoning doesn’t really track between these two incidents.

I started reading Enchant’s ISO today as well, and there’s some very interesting stuff in there to say the least. I hope to finish that up tomorrow. Although, like Furtive says here, it basically boils down to either Gera is scum, or he was set up. So I’m not quite sure what to make of it yet.

Enchant practically bread loafed imo, so maybe it all means nothing, but Enchant dropped a hint on D-1 to look at who he went after first thing on D-2. And his first vote D-2 was on Gera.

Gera also didn’t want to vote Nicole because of a town read on LQ.

[geraintm]

VOTE: Cathedral

so, the late bus of The fool doesn't look good from nicole

[geraintm]

I wonder what the Enchant kill means

i never worry about that sort of thing, scum pick such random reasons

[geraintm]

I agree that JM looks TOWN, and I agree with

VOTE: NIcoleAndDIme

can people explain why Jmo16mla is town?

they have like 10 posts and weren;t on the The Fool wagon.
is it a holdover from previous players?

[geraintm]

You guys know that Trekkie was pushing away from the Fool as a lim on day 1

Right?

i can see this from Trekkie (now CAthedral)
post 1520 was on the fool, but from then on it was all "we can lim Mage" till 1763

[geraintm]

You guys know that Trekkie was pushing away from the Fool as a lim on day 1

Right?

Are you talking about later in the day?

Here's Trekkie's involvement with the E-1 wagon on TheFool D1:

VOTE: TheFool

This is the 2nd vote, preceded only by Gamma after the whole 'way too comfortable' post by TF about GE and KJQ

VOTE: Mage

This is the unvote, which came after AD and Gimli unvoted to bring the wagon down to E-3.

we need to end this gameday

Agreed

This was while TheFool was at E-2.

I get the strat of pairing your buddy with a town (Trekkie was pushing TheFool and Mage), but encouraging a quick hammer while your teammate is on the chopping block seems unnecessary for this strategy.

oh, was it not as clear cute from Trekkie/cathedral?

[geraintm]

The other player I was thinking about during the night is geraintm. Despite thinking TheFool was revealed as mafia by DragonEater in a slip, geraint never voted TF, instead choosing more 'side quest' type votes. It looked weird then and still does. 3152 is bad logic. Enchant kill could makes sense if geraint is scum, or being framed.

why was 3152 bad logic? If i thought they were scum, but i believe the claim then it means that Dragoneater is uch less likely to be scum and not for what i thought

[geraintm]

You guys know that Trekkie was pushing away from the Fool as a lim on day 1

Right?

Are you talking about later in the day?

Here's Trekkie's involvement with the E-1 wagon on TheFool D1:

VOTE: TheFool

This is the 2nd vote, preceded only by Gamma after the whole 'way too comfortable' post by TF about GE and KJQ

VOTE: Mage

This is the unvote, which came after AD and Gimli unvoted to bring the wagon down to E-3.

we need to end this gameday

Agreed

This was while TheFool was at E-2.

I get the strat of pairing your buddy with a town (Trekkie was pushing TheFool and Mage), but encouraging a quick hammer while your teammate is on the chopping block seems unnecessary for this strategy.

I don't think bussing is an unlikely strategy for trekkie

They were also the main voice away from the Fool wagon which feels damning. Even if they were also on it

why do you think Trekkie would be bussing on day 1? they can't both be bussing and steering away?

[geraintm]

The idea that scum wouldn't bus and then move wagons when they are able to get the ammunition/motivations to try and save their partner is frankly absurd to me

Like that's a completely plausible if not expected outcome from a scum player, but you are saying that makes them more likely town? Absurd

There's a difference between what you're describing and staying on the wagon at E-2 and agreeing that the day needs to end.

i am not sure why nicole is arguing this strongly?