Open 104 - The New C9 - Game Over

[hewitt]

If I was choosing the lynch myself, I would lynch Hitch.

Then how come you don't vote for him?

[Sun Tzu]

If I was choosing the lynch myself, I would lynch Hitch.

Then how come you don't vote for him?

Because no one seems to agree with me.

[hewitt]

If I was choosing the lynch myself, I would lynch Hitch.

Then how come you don't vote for him?

Because no one seems to agree with me.

Well why should we vote for Hitch?

[darkdude]

Vote Count for Day 1

There are 20 Alive, so 11 to Lynch

Wall-E [6] (ScottHoward, M1KEMMIEMIEMKEMIKE, well-named, SiestaGuru, hewitt, Sun Tzu, )

omg_im_innocent_wtf [5] (oEJo, StrangerCoug, omg_im_innocent_wtf, zhaorx, Wall-E, )
matrix [4] (The Fonz, The Central Scrutinizer, Hitch, norseman1066, )
StrangerCoug [1] (Caboose, )
M1KEMMIEMIEMKEMIKE [1] (Mada, )
The Central Scrutinizer [1] (matrix, )
ScottHoward [0] ()
Hitch [0] ()
Sun Tzu [0] ()
The Fonz [0] ()
well-named [0] ()
zhaorx [0] ()
Caboose [0] ()
Stef [0] ()
atakdog [0] ()
norseman1066 [0] ()
SiestaGuru [0] ()
hewitt [0] ()
oEJo [0] ()
Mada [0] ()

No Lynch [0] ()

Not Voting [2] (atakdog, Stef, )

[Wall-E]

What does "fancy play syndrome" refer to?

Don't vote without stating your reason. It's how we catch scum.

Read my posts.

You came into the thread and made some scummy posts. Then you said you are always the #1 poster in your games and have hardly posted since then. I said I would give you a pass if you were going to be posting a lot, but you haven't. I'm not completely convinced that you're scum and I'd rather lynch scrutinizer, but as of now, I'd rather lynch you than OMG or matrix.

Ah, so this is the first time I've heard someone from bizarro world state actual reasons (albiet bad ones, as I will demonstrate) for their vote. Congratulations.

1) Name the scummy posts and why they are scummy.
2) I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on my post count.
3) Just to be clear then, you are NOT voting for the person you most strongly suspect of being a wolf?

[Wall-E]

Sun Tzu: What if everyone was doing what you are doing? Nobody would be voting for their true #1 suspect. If you think you are right about Hewitt, you should vote for him, because A) it will net you cred with the town if you DO turn out to have been right all along and B) that way the voting record is accurate to suspicions of the townies.

Do you disagree? If so, why? If not, why not?

To everyone else voting for me: Please state a reason for your vote.

[Wall-E]

I'm not going to presume to be able to read this game nearly as accurately as some others I've read, mainly because of the cultural crossover: What is a scumtell here isn't necessarily one for the eight "others," and vice-versa. Suffice to say, I will simply be looking for logical inconsistency and ignoring most of the standard scumtells when it comes to those eight.

[matrix]

After some time contemplating this I think that I should vote with my gut here and go with a vote for...................

vote: matrix

He IMHO is about as close to a mafia as we're likely to find among the alternatives

if by close, you mean very very far away - then congratulations!

I think that Mafia moves a little better if there is some kind of deadline - it seems everyone s sitting around waiting for someone to post an "OMG SCUMTELL" before anything is going to happen.

I am going to follow Sun for a while and see how that turns out.

vote: Hitch

[matrix]

For the record my true #1 suspect is TCS - I would be very happy with a TCS lynch and will likely switch back to him if it looks like he might get lynched, unless he starts posting lots of Townie type stuff, then I guess I'll need to look elsehere.

I am basically moving my vote around to see what it stirs up if anything.

[hewitt]

Sun Tzu: What if everyone was doing what you are doing? Nobody would be voting for their true #1 suspect. If you think you are right about Hewitt, you should vote for him, because A) it will net you cred with the town if you DO turn out to have been right all along and B) that way the voting record is accurate to suspicions of the townies.

Do you disagree? If so, why? If not, why not?

To everyone else voting for me: Please state a reason for your vote.

Hm, that's weird, it looked to me like in his post he said his number one suspect was Scrutinizer not me. But if I am his number one suspect then yeah I would agree with you. Was that an attempt to play off that I'm YOUR number one suspect? Cause if it is, please do explain why.

[SiestaGuru]

Humm, sun says hitch is his prime suspect while voting for general and then wall-e without giving any real reasons for his suspection of hitch.
And then suddenly matrix is following sun for no apprant reason, while sun is not even voting for hitch...

Fos: Sun Tzu + Matrix

[omg_im_innocent_wtf]

seeing as i havent been lynched or replaced...

unvote vote wall e

he seems like a worthless cunt rage bitch so fuck it i want him to die

[hewitt]

seeing as i havent been lynched or replaced...

unvote vote wall e

he seems like a worthless cunt rage bitch so fuck it i want him to die

Ouch tell us how you really feel damn.

[matrix]

And then suddenly matrix is following sun for

no apprant reason

, while sun is not even voting for hitch...

Fos: Sun Tzu + Matrix

I am basically moving my vote around to see what it stirs up if anything.

Reading comprehension not one of your strong suits?

[Wall-E]

omgus from omg noted. Happy with my vote.

[ScottHoward]

everybody should note that walle is proving over and over again that he isnt reading the thread closely, if at all.
some examples:
1. his vote for zazier
2. claims Hewitt is suns #1 suspect
3. claims nobody other than sun had given reasons for their votes on him.
4. hasnt answered questions posed to him in the thread

now, this might not be extremely damning by mser standards, but it should be.
he is posting without knowledge of the thread content and this can not be considered "good for the village" which apparently is a big mser suspicion trigger.

he is pressuring others to give their reasoning for their votes, which is fine. its the way it should be, BUT, at the same time, he is voting for omg as a matter of policy. a weak reason at best from the guy who is shitting on other peoples reasoning.
he says he will prove suns reasoning to be bad, but hasnt even attempted to as of yet.

his "I'm not going to presume to be able to read this game nearly as accurately as some others I've read" reaks of scum making excuses in advance has to why he isnt finding scum. this will be even more scummier if walle is usually regarded as a fine scumhunter.

and just now, says hes "happy with" his omg vote because omg accused him of sucking. omgus is a show of arrogance, correct? so walle, the guy who in this thread said "Arrogance != scummy. The sooner you discover this, the better a player you'll be. ", is voting for omg because omg voted for himself, and is now happy about it because omg is arrogant.
does anybody else see the contradiction?

why is walle not lynched already?
wtf are we waiting for?

[zhaorx]

vote walle

[StrangerCoug]

why is walle not lynched already?
wtf are we waiting for?

omg_im_innocent_wtf to convince me to unvote him, which he sure as hell never did.

[ScottHoward]

strangec, how do you feel about the things i just stated about walle?

[StrangerCoug]

As I remember saying, I see the case on him, and I'm not going to cry over spilled milk if he gets lynched instead. I'm just much more certain about OIIW.

[Wall-E]

As I have stated already, I'm treating page 23 as page 1. Nobody's fault (with the possible exception of the mod's) that I didn't know the game had started until then, but if you want to lynch me for not caring to read 23 pages of eight people from another site bash ms, that's your perogative. My vote for ZazieR was semi-random-stage, I actually based it entirely on ONE post he made around page 10, but I'm not even going to bother digging it up, as it's nearly insignificant to the things omg has done.

That said, your case against me is that I'm not reading the thread. I have copped to not reading every post. What more is there to say? I guess you can do what you will, but my shining moments always come in the late game, so if you think I'm scum for being lazy, it's your game to help lose.

[Wall-E]

SC: I remember you saying that too. Can you clarify? What case do you see?

[StrangerCoug]

SC: I remember you saying that too. Can you clarify? What case do you see?

It's mostly the question-dodging that I think is hurting you the most.

[ScottHoward]

As I have stated already, I'm treating page 23 as page 1. Nobody's fault (with the possible exception of the mod's) that I didn't know the game had started until then, but if you want to lynch me for not caring to read 23 pages of eight people from another site bash ms, that's your perogative.

nobody is bashing you for not reading the first 23 (28 really, whatever) pages imo. the case against you is not that you havent read the first 28 pages. the problem is that youre not even reading the thread from where you did show up.

though of course i would hope a player would read the thread from the start, but hey, do what you like. note however norse subbed in and apparently is reading the entire thread. you have been in the game the entire time and cant be bothered. which action is pro-town and which is anti-town? speaks volumes imo.

and, how do you know its 28 pages of bashing if you havent read it?

[hewitt]

As I have stated already, I'm treating page 23 as page 1. Nobody's fault (with the possible exception of the mod's) that I didn't know the game had started until then, but if you want to lynch me for not caring to read 23 pages of eight people from another site bash ms, that's your perogative.

nobody is bashing you for not reading the first 23 (28 really, whatever) pages imo. the case against you is not that you havent read the first 28 pages. the problem is that youre not even reading the thread from where you did show up.

though of course i would hope a player would read the thread from the start, but hey, do what you like. note however norse subbed in and apparently is reading the entire thread. you have been in the game the entire time and cant be bothered. which action is pro-town and which is anti-town? speaks volumes imo.

and, how do you know its 28 pages of bashing if you havent read it?

I have to agree I mean if you're on our side I would think you'd make a little bit more effort to help the town instead of just ignoring 23 pages of what you deem to be unimportant.