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Newbie 2040 - The First Dark Age: End!

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:19 am

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Newbie 2040 - The First Dark Age

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During the Bronze Age, Mediterranean cultures flourished. Alliances, trade, religions, and innovations led to several far-flung empires. And then the contemporary record went quiet. The bronze age, which had given dynasties across the region incredible wealth and reach, came to a sudden end. What happened? Many things! In this game, we'll explore some of the factors that led to what is sometimes called the First Dark Age.

The flavor is purely for your enjoyment (and mine!), and has no effect whatsoever on the NewD3 newbie game setup and rules.


Player List (9)

Umlaut
Salsabil Faria

skitter30
flowr

NotAJumbleOfNumbers
AuroraDash

RLotus

AGamblingPig
**
donkihott
***
Battle Mage (SE)
*
Syryana (SE)

ManWithNoName (SE)



bold
= confirmed
* = prod


Spoiler: Alive
donkihott


Spoiler: Dead
Umlaut,
Vanilla Townie
was eliminated on Day 1

RLotus,
Town Tracker
was killed on Night 1

AGamblingPig,
Vanilla Townie
was eliminated on Day 2

ManWithNoName,
Town Doctor
was killed on Night 2

Battle Mage,
Mafia Goon
was eliminated on Day 3

Syryana,
Vanilla Townie
was killed on Night 3

NotAJumbleOfNumbers,
Vanilla Townie
was eliminated on Day 4

skitter30,
Vanilla Townie
was endgamed on Day 4


Spoiler: Banished
Let's not go there


Spoiler: Vote Counter Settings
Living Playersskitter30 (replaces flowr)
NotAJumbleOfNumbers (replaces AuroraDash)
donkihott


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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:20 am

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Setup Info

Newbie Setup
Newbie Setup

NewD3 (as designed by RadiantCowbells):

ABC
Mafia
Mafia Roleblocker
Mafia Rolecop
Mafia Goon
Row 1
Town Cop and Town Doctor
Town Tracker and Town Friendly Neighbor
Town Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2
Town Jailkeeper and Town Tracker
Town Jailkeeper and Town Friendly Neighbor
Town Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3
Town Mason and Town Mason
Town Tracker and Town Doctor
Town Mason and Town Mason

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role. The remaining six roles will be filled in by
one mafia goon
and
five vanilla townies
appropriately, to create a
2-mafia
and
7-town
setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects.
Mafia Roleblocker
action takes precedence over a
Town Jailkeeper
action should that apply.

Mafia are able to communicate in their Private Topic at all times.


Spoiler: Full Setups
Column A & Row 1:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 2:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 3:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 1:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 2:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 3:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column C & Row 1:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Cop, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 2:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Jailkeeper, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 3:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5


Mods should use the sample role PMs below.


Sample Role PM's (click on the spoiler button to reveal)

Spoiler:
Vanilla TownieWelcome!

You are a
Vanilla Townie
.

You have no special abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town JailkeeperWelcome!

You are a
Town Jailkeeper
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town CopWelcome!

You are a
Town Cop
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are
Town
or
Mafia
. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town MasonWelcome!

You are a
Town Mason
.

You know that [player] is Town-aligned. You also share a Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You have no active abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Town TrackerWelcome!

You are a
Town Tracker
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town DoctorWelcome!

You are a
Town Doctor
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Town Friendly NeighborWelcome!

You are a
Town Friendly Neighbor
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be sent a message informing them that you are Town-aligned.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Mafia GoonWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Goon
.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RolecopWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Rolecop
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment.
Vanilla Townies
and
Mafia Goons
will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a role cop in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.
Mafia RoleblockerWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Roleblocker
.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:21 am

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Rules:


In-Game Behavior


1.
Site Rules are in effect. Please familiarize yourself and follow them.


2. Posts consisting purely of insults without game content are not tolerated. I penalize such posts with a strike. Three strikes and you're out. Severe issues will be reported to the listmods.

3. Claiming scum is allowed. Claiming scum with another player (whether as a joke or not) will result in severe consequences for you, and consequences for your team.

4. Play towards your win condition. Gambits are fine, directly harming your own team is not.

5. Loophole abuse is not tolerated.

6. Have fun! There are a lot of great people who play, discuss mafia game theory and practice, and discuss life, the universe and everything, too, here at Mafiascum.net. During and after this game, please take a look around the site and get to know us. I think you'll like what you see.


Voting and Deadlines:



1. Voting must be bolded in the form
Vote: Player
- bold tags

Code: Select all

[b]Vote: Player[/b]
or

VOTE: Player vote tags

Code: Select all

[vote]Player[/vote]


or else they will not be counted. Unvotes are not required to change your vote, but they are helpful. Please note: I'm using an automated vote counter.
If you don't use the vote tags, be sure to add a colon after the word "Vote".


2. Votes inside of spoiler tags will not be counted.

3. I don't mind if you use nicknames/abbreviations when you vote someone. But if I have no idea who you're voting for, then the vote won't be counted. Please note: the vote counting application may be more finicky about nicknames than I am. If you notice that your vote hasn't been recorded, please let me know.

4. Eliminations require a majority of votes: (number of living players/2) +1, rounded down.

5. If there's no majority at deadline, there's no elimination.

6. When the hammer vote is cast, all players, including the eliminated may talk freely until the final vote count and eliminated player's card-flip have been posted. I will lock the game thread at that time.

6. Once you are dead, you may not post in the game thread again. Not even a "Bah" post.

7. Deadlines are set at 10 days on Day 1 and 7 days for subsequent game days. and Extensions may be granted if there are replacements near deadline, or under other extraordinary circumstances (e.g., site outages, major holidays).


Prods and Replacements:


Replacing Out
If you need to replace out of this game, send me a private message about it. Do NOT post that you want to be replaced, or that you have asked to be replaced in the game thread.
I will acknowledge your replacement request by replying to your PM. From that time forward, you are out of the game. Do not make any posts in the game thread.

This is a site rule that can entail penalties if broken. It applies to all mafia games at Mafiascum.net unless the game moderator explicitly states otherwise.



1. Prods will be given if you do not post in
36 hours
.

2. You will be replaced if you either do not respond to a prod, or need to be prodded more than 3 times total. You may request for a player to be prodded at any time. Prods requested when a player has been absent for less than 36 hours do not count for replacement purposes.

3. If you are V/LA (on vacation/have limited access), make sure I know. If you are V/LA for more than a week, I suggest requesting replacement, but it's not required. If a lengthy V/LA is adversely affecting the game (e.g., if you are not able to post minimally during that time), then your mod may replace you.without penalty.


Misc.



1. Dark Blue (#004080) is the color I will use for mod posts. Please don’t use this color or otherwise try to make your posts look like mod posts.

2. You can talk about the game in the private threads given to you via PM, assuming you were given one. Otherwise, please refrain from talking about this game outside of this thread, and don't talk about other games inside of this game. This is a sitewide rule. See announcement here.


3. No editing, deleting, using invisible texts, write in code, using font sizes less than 70, etc...

4. Don't quote or talk about any mod-recieved PMs. Your flavor is for you to enjoy and you only, until the end of the game.

5. I make mistakes. If you notice I make one, please let me know.

6. Questions are vastly preferable to Modkills. If you're thinking about to do something that you're unsure is within the letter or spirit of these rules and the game of mafia, then ask me privately about it first.


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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:21 am

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Introduction and Tips
Thanks to Irrelephant11 and others for their contributions to these tips.


Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):

-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)


Key Concepts and Tips


Activity


Try to check in at least once a day.
Besides the activity requirements listed in the moderator's original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyone
plays
. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?

Site Meta


Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...

Random Voting Stage (RVS)

Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.

Voting, E-x, and Hammers

E-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from elimination. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at E-1 (1 vote away from an elimination) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that player's elimination. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to eliminate (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see E-2 and E-3 (2 votes away from elimination and 3 votes away from elimination, respectively).

Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being eliminated, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.


Claiming Your Role

It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at E-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.

Do not fake claim a power role as town!
While it may help you avoid getting eliminated, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counterclaiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get eliminated for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.

ELo

ELo is the shortened representation of “Eliminate or Lose.” ELo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to eliminate (“quickhammer”) and win the game.

Conclusion

Mafia is hard!
As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum.
That's okay!
Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".

This is a game.
Have fun!
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:24 am

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This is the Pregame Phase. I'll send out Role Private Messages (PMs) during the next couple hours. Please respond to your Role PM with your alignment (Town or Mafia) and Role Name to confirm that you have received it.

You have 48 hours from the time I send you the Role PM to respond. If you cannot respond by then, I will seek a replacement.

Once 8 of the 9 players have confirmed via PM reply, the game will begin!

I'll update this post as we progress through Pregame.

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All Role PMs have gone out!

8 of 9 players have confirmed.

Day 1 will start momentarily!
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:02 am

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Vote Count 1-1
Day 1 Begins!


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Rameses III, known as the Last Warrior Pharaoh, ruled the New Kingdom of Egypt. He is thought to have reigned from 1186 to 1155 BCE and is considered the last great monarch of the New Kingdom



Not Voting
(9): AGamblingPig, RLotus, flowr, AuroraDash, Battle Mage, donkihott, Syryana, ManWithNoName, Salsabil Faria


With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.



Deadline: November 17, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2020-11-16 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

- Salsabil Faria has 48 hours in which to post before I must search for a replacement
- Battle Mage is v/la until Monday, November 9
- :]
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:14 am

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Howdy VOTE: Battle Mage
In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:19 am

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I can’t trust a man with no name so VOTE: ManWithNoName
Pathological liar with good intentions.
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:21 am

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I can't trust a man who votes me in his first post. especially when he knows I'm V/LA ;)

VOTE: manwithnoname
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2020 Stats - 31 completed games:

Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4

winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:26 am

Post by ManWithNoName »

In post 8, Battle Mage wrote:I can't trust a man who votes me in his first post. especially when he knows I'm V/LA ;)

VOTE: manwithnoname
I didn't read that. That would imply me reading.
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:27 am

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nameless and shameless!
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Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4

winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:35 am

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At least I have an avatar :p
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:49 am

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Hi everyone!

VOTE: AGamblingPig
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:56 am

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I'm going after the big fish..
VOTE: Syryana
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:04 pm

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In post 12, AuroraDash wrote:Hi everyone!

VOTE: AGamblingPig

Noooooooo! I'm too young.
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:21 pm

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VOTE: BattleMage because mages should know their places as support smh
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:22 pm

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In post 15, flowr wrote:VOTE: BattleMage because mages should know their places as support smh
Just realized I'm wagoning, ewie. Didn't see the vote before. Give me a bit and I'll come up with something witty for my next vote.

UNVOTE: Battle Mage
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:38 pm

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VOTE: donkihott

OMGUS.
In the timeless words of a great and revered man: "Blow it out your ass."
A hydra of Rift Adrift, Oil Tycoons and Trust Fund. "In the Oil Rift we Trust."
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 3:52 pm

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In post 16, flowr wrote:
In post 15, flowr wrote:VOTE: BattleMage because mages should know their places as support smh
Just realized I'm wagoning, ewie. Didn't see the vote before. Give me a bit and I'll come up with something witty for my next vote.

UNVOTE: Battle Mage
Hmmmm....
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 4:55 pm

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Hello everyone, this is my first game of forum mafia, excited to be playing with you all.

VOTE: AuroraDash
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 5:11 pm

Post by flowr »

In post 18, ManWithNoName wrote:
In post 16, flowr wrote:
In post 15, flowr wrote:VOTE: BattleMage because mages should know their places as support smh
Just realized I'm wagoning, ewie. Didn't see the vote before. Give me a bit and I'll come up with something witty for my next vote.

UNVOTE: Battle Mage
Hmmmm....
hmmmm
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 5:14 pm

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In post 19, RLotus wrote:Hello everyone, this is my first game of forum mafia, excited to be playing with you all.

VOTE: AuroraDash
I'm excited to be playing with y'all too, same here.

VOTE: RLotus
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Fri Nov 06, 2020 5:16 pm

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I don't like to vote the same person with my first vote. Save some anxiety. My second vote however... :)
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:42 am

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Searching for a replacement for Salsabil Faria
Amid the pressure of great events, a general principle gives no help.

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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 7:01 am

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So while we await. How's everyone doing? Settling in okay?
In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.

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