Newbie 2070 - Airplanes | GAME OVER

Marashu · Post Post #0 (ISO) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:28 pm

NEWBIE 2070 - AIRPLANES

Moderator: Marashu
Backup Moderator: Datisi

Cessna Skyhawk

Player List

Wayward Son *
Val89
ClarkBar
GrandpaMo
LunarRest *
Chuck Shurley
BlurryX *
JamesTheNames
brookewyrm *
Roden
Nancy Drew 39 (SE)
Psyche (SE)
T3 (SE)

* Denotes Prod

Spoiler: Living Players

Spoiler: Dead Players

Events

Day 1 Start
Vote Count: 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 1.11
Day 1 End

Marashu · Post Post #1 (ISO) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:29 pm

RULES

Stolen from

Inspired by Plotinus' rules

Site Rules
- Follow all site rules.
Mod colour
– My mod colour is
orange
(#FF8000); don't use it.
Behaviour
- Be respectful. This is a heated game but toxicity will not be tolerated. Attack the play not the player. If your fellow players tell you to stop, you must stop. If you do not stop, I will tell you to stop. If you still do not stop, you will be force-replaced. Asking people to stop voting you or to stop scumhunting you entirely doesn't count for this rule and you may find yourself eliminated if you try it.
Don't talk about ongoing games
- You may not talk to each other about this game outside of threads I have created for this purpose. You may not talk about other ongoing games in this thread.
Text
- Text should be legible (keep it 70+ please) and should not be hidden behind cryptography. Breadcrumbing is fine.
Provable randomness
- is against the rules. Saying that you rolled a dice is fine, using dice tags or random.org is not.
Confirmation
- You have about 48 hours to confirm your role and your alignment by PM. Game will start sooner if 7/9 players confirm. Posting in a private topic counts as confirmation.
Days
- Day 1 will last 10 days, and all other days will last 7 days. Night will be 48 hours. Extensions may be granted at my discression.
Activity
- You must post at least once every 36 hours or I will Prod you. You then have 24 hours to post in the game thread or I will replace you. If you come back before I find a replacement, you can stay. The activity timers run at half-speed on weekends. Players can request me to prod somebody early. This will only count as an official prod if you don't post before you would have been due for a prod. If you haven't posted in the 24 hours before the thread is locked for night, you must reply to the night start PM or you will be replaced during the night. You will also be replaced if you are prodded 3 times total
Vacation/Limited Access
- If you need to be absent for longer than this, you should declare V/LA in bold in the thread like this:
@Mod: I will be v/la until Thursday
. While you are V/LA, you will be nudged once every 54 hours. Two nudges equals one prod. If you have not posted game advancing content in 5 days, regardless of V/LA status, you will be replaced.
Prodging
- A naked "prod dodge" does not reset the prod timer.
Replacement
- PM me if you wish to be replaced out. Angleshooting (speculating on alignment because of replacement) is not permitted.
Quoting
- You may not quote (or copy paste) any private information into the thread, including your role PM and any mod communication.
Notes PT
- Let me know if you want a private thread to store your thoughts and feedback for the other players. This thread will be made public immediately after the game. You may draft posts in your notes PT but you may not talk about your notes PT in public. You definitely may not use the notes PT to demonstrate that you've had a town mindset in private all along; just put your town mindset in public to begin with and keep your notes to yourself.
Voting
- Votes must be in bold in the format
VOTE: Marashu
or
Vote: Marashu
. Strong preference for using vote tags instead of bold tags. Unvotes are nice but not required. If I think it’s a vote, it’s a vote, no tricks. Type VOTE: Marashu to vote and UNVOTE: Marashu to unvote. Votes in spoiler tags will not be counted.
Elimination
- Eliminations will be by majority. If there is no majority by deadline, then there is No Elimination.
Night
- Night lasts at least 24 hours.
Action submissions
- You may submit actions via PM or PT. Actions must be received by the deadline. You can change your mind as many times as you like before the deadline.
Claiming Scum
- by yourself is fine. Claiming scum with another player is against the rules.
Rule Changes
- I may add or modify additional rules at my discretion. Everyone will be notified via PM if this happens.
Play to win
- this particular game, not some future one, and keep it fun!

Marashu · Post Post #2 (ISO) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:30 pm

Newbie Setup

NewD3 (as designed by RadiantCowbells):

	A	B	C
Mafia	Mafia Roleblocker	Mafia Rolecop	Mafia Goon
Row 1	Town Cop and Town Doctor	Town Tracker and Town Friendly Neighbor	Town Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2	Town Jailkeeper and Town Tracker	Town Jailkeeper and Town Friendly Neighbor	Town Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3	Town Mason and Town Mason	Town Tracker and Town Doctor	Town Mason and Town Mason

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role. The remaining six roles will be filled in by

one mafia goon

and

five vanilla townies

appropriately, to create a

2-mafia

and

7-town

setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects.

Mafia Roleblocker

action takes precedence over a

Town Jailkeeper

action should that apply.

Mafia are able to communicate in their Private Topic at all times.

Full Setups (click on the spoiler button to reveal)

Spoiler: Full Setups

Sample Role PM's (click on the spoiler button to reveal)

Spoiler:

Vanilla TownieWelcome!

You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You have no special abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town JailkeeperWelcome!

You are a

Town Jailkeeper

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town CopWelcome!

You are a

Town Cop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are

Town

or

Mafia

. If you are roleblocked, you will receive "No Result."

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town MasonWelcome!

You are a

Town Mason

.

You know that [player] is Town-aligned. You also share a Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You have no active abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Town TrackerWelcome!

You are a

Town Tracker

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive "No Result."

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town DoctorWelcome!

You are a

Town Doctor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Friendly NeighborWelcome!

You are a

Town Friendly Neighbor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be sent a message informing them that you are Town-aligned.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Mafia GoonWelcome!

You are a

Mafia Goon

.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RolecopWelcome!

You are a

Mafia Rolecop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment.

Vanilla Townies

and

Mafia Goons

will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive "No Result."

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a role cop in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RoleblockerWelcome!

You are a

Mafia Roleblocker

.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Marashu · Post Post #3 (ISO) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:31 pm

Introduction and Tips

Thanks to Irrelephant11 and others for their contributions to these tips.

Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):

-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)

Key Concepts and Tips

Activity

Try to check in at least once a day.

Besides the activity requirements listed in the moderator's original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyone

plays

. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?

Site Meta

Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...

Random Voting Stage (RVS)

Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.

Voting, E-x, and Hammers

E-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from elimination. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at E-1 (1 vote away from an elimination) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that player's elimination. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to eliminate (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see E-2 and E-3 (2 votes away from elimination and 3 votes away from elimination, respectively).

Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being eliminated, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.

Claiming Your Role

It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at E-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.

Do not fake claim a power role as town!

While it may help you avoid getting eliminated, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counterclaiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get eliminated for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.

ELo

ELo is the shortened representation of “Eliminate or Lose.” ELo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to eliminate (“quickhammer”) and win the game.

Conclusion

Mafia is hard!

As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum.

That's okay!

Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".

This is a game.

Have fun!

Marashu · Post Post #4 (ISO) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:38 pm

Role PMs have been sent. The game will begin in (expired on 2021-06-26 21:47:57) or when 7/9 players have confirmed. Confirmed: 9/9

ClarkBar has until (expired on 2021-06-26 21:47:57) to confirm before I look for a replacement.

Marashu · Post Post #5 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:00 am

Official Vote Count 1.00

De Havilland Chipmunk

Elimination

Not Voting

(9): Wayward Son, ClarkBar, GrandpaMo, LunarRest, BlurryX, brookewyrm, Nancy Drew 39, Psyche, T3

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-07-06 10:00:49).

Mod notes:

Day 1 Begins!

T3 · Post Post #6 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:02 am

First.

T3 · Post Post #7 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:03 am

Psyche is playing?

since when do mods play mafia

T3 · Post Post #8 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:04 am

VOTE: brookewyrm
No pun allowed.

LunarRest · Post Post #9 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:35 am

Hi. I'm new to the game and I'm not really smart either, so please bear with me.

T3 · Post Post #10 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:54 am

Join date

If you are mafia then say "I'm mafia" It will help us win.

If you are town then say "I'm town"
Thanks!

ClarkBar · Post Post #11 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:01 am

VOTE: Vote: Nancy Drew 39

The first 38 were bad news, I'm sure #39 is no different.

It's been a minute since I've played, I'm happy to join you all!

T3 · Post Post #12 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:14 am

In post 11, ClarkBar wrote:VOTE: Vote: Nancy Drew 39

The first 38 were bad news, I'm sure #39 is no different.

It's been a minute since I've played, I'm happy to join you all!

T3 · Post Post #13 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:36 am

I'll definitely be tracking where this game goes.

T3 · Post Post #14 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:46 am

Please tell me this isn't a game where half the players flake out....

ClarkBar · Post Post #15 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:51 am

In post 14, T3 wrote:Please tell me this isn't a game where half the players flake out....

You mean like a normal game? Things will get going eventually.

T3 · Post Post #16 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:18 am

Theseus's Mafia Game

Psyche · Post Post #17 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:38 am

hello everyone very excited to learn how to play mafia today

VOTE: T3 for making only slightly under half the posts in this thread so far, those are rookie numbers

T3 · Post Post #18 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:44 am

Move along nothing to see here.

GrandpaMo · Post Post #19 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:59 am

In post 14, T3 wrote:Please tell me this isn't a game where half the players flake out....

WASGOOD

ClarkBar · Post Post #20 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:15 am

In post 9, LunarRest wrote:Hi. I'm new to the game and I'm not really smart either, so please bear with me.

T3 referred to this already, but it does stick out and since nobody is posting I want to mention that I don't find this kind of self-deprecation to be reassuring or in town's favor.

@LunarRest: In what way are you stupid? Are you referring to specific misplays in other games or just a general kind of idiocy?

GrandpaMo · Post Post #21 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:20 am

In post 11, ClarkBar wrote:VOTE: Vote: Nancy Drew 39

The first 38 were bad news, I'm sure #39 is no different.

It's been a minute since I've played, I'm happy to join you all!

wait did u already confirm?

it says still u havent confirmed unless mod didnt update

ClarkBar · Post Post #22 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:21 am

I confirmed shortly before I posted.

GrandpaMo · Post Post #23 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:28 am

In post 6, T3 wrote:First.

In post 7, T3 wrote:Psyche is playing?

since when do mods play mafia

In post 8, T3 wrote:VOTE: brookewyrm
No pun allowed.

In post 10, T3 wrote:Join date

If you are mafia then say "I'm mafia" It will help us win.

If you are town then say "I'm town"
Thanks!

In post 12, T3 wrote:
In post 11, ClarkBar wrote:VOTE: Vote: Nancy Drew 39

The first 38 were bad news, I'm sure #39 is no different.

It's been a minute since I've played, I'm happy to join you all!

In post 13, T3 wrote:I'll definitely be tracking where this game goes.

In post 14, T3 wrote:Please tell me this isn't a game where half the players flake out....

In post 16, T3 wrote:Theseus's Mafia Game

In post 18, T3 wrote:Move along nothing to see here.

t3 why are u acting more "optimistic" or whatever the word is ... it just seems like you are happy about a specific role

T3 · Post Post #24 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:34 pm

I just had some time to frequently post.