Newbie 2127: game over

[Skygazer]

Newbie 2127: Flavor Grab Bag

game is over | moderated by Skygazer

I'm having a hard time settling on one idea for flavor, so I'll be throwing a lot at you and seeing what sticks.

Spoiler: player list

- Snix

usesPython

Claptastik

- ChicagoTypewriter**
- Bazuf*
- KatyKimFanClub
- MikhailTal

Vestrea*

- the worst

HighFlyingDwarf*

- JasonWazza (SE)
- Political Clout* (SE)
- DeltaBreedy (SE)

* asterisks indicate prods

Spoiler: living players

- Bazuf, vanilla townie
- KatyKimFanClub, vanilla townie
- Political Clout, vanilla townie
- DeltaBreedy, vanilla townie

Spoiler: dead players

- MikhailTal, vanilla townie, eliminated day one
- JasonWazza, town mason, killed night one
- Snix, mafia goon, eliminated day two
- the worst, town mason, killed night two
- ChicagoTypewriter, mafia roleblocker, eliminated day three

Spoiler: important links

- end of D1, start of D2
- end of D2, start of D3
- end of D3, end of game, PT links, etc

[Skygazer]

Here are some rules for you to read and follow!

General:

- Please adhere to the site rules. Also check out these clarifications. Site rules supersede my own.
- The word "lynch" shall not be used; it has been banned from use on this website due to the brutal historical context surrounding the word. Newbie games use the word "elimination," but feel free to use any other whimsical alternatives!
- Do not discuss this game of mafia outside of this thread or any private topics that I have created.
- "Day One" will be 10 days long. Subsequent day phases will be 7 days long.
- Night phases will last 48 hours.
- During night phases, no talking may be done in the thread.
- Do not take any action that attempts to prove the existence of private game communications. You are allowed to claim that these communications exist as long as you do not attempt to provide evidence.
- If you have any questions about your role, or the game, feel free to privately message me. If I'm asked a question publicly, I will try to answer it as accurately as I can without revealing anything about the game.
- Dead players may not post. This includes "bah" posts and the twilight phase before post-game.

Voting / Player Actions:

- Vote either with vote tags (VOTE: Skygazer) or with bold (

vote: skyg

). Note that nicknames, abbreviations and acronyms are acceptable, as long as the intended vote is obvious. I will state if a vote isn't obvious.
- Don't try to confuse me with your votes.
- An elimination will occur once a majority decision is reached. If no majority is reached, the day phase will end peacefully.
- Following an elimination, it is twilight. You may continue to post until I lock the thread.
- After the twilight phase, I will reveal the role and alignment of the eliminated player and the night phase shall begin.
- If you have a night action, you may submit it from night one and each subsequent night phase (or whichever nights are specified by the role).

Activity:

- You are expected to post at least once every 36 hours. If you haven't posted for 36 hours, I shall prod you. If you do not respond to the prod within 24 hours (either in thread if it's Day, or via PM during the Night) then I will replace you.
- If you decide to replace out, please PM me and don't post in thread after doing so; if you want to rescind the replacement please PM me again and don't post in thread until you hear back.

Misc:

- No impossible/hard to read text, or cryptography. For example, I would prefer that no font size smaller than the one you're reading now be used.
- The mod may make mistakes; please point out any mistakes gently. Mistakes will be corrected where possible, but sometimes mistakes are made that cannot be reversed. These will stand as final to be commiserated over after the game.
- If you need to get the mod's attention, either PM me, or bold the text you wish to draw to my attention.
- I reserve the right to alter/remove/add any rules as I see fit. You will, of course, be notified if that happens, however.

[Skygazer]

Newbie Setup

Newbie Setup

NewD3 (as designed by RadiantCowbells):

	A	B	C
Mafia	Mafia Roleblocker	Mafia Rolecop	Mafia Goon
Row 1	Town Cop and Town Doctor	Town Tracker and Town Friendly Neighbor	Town Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2	Town Jailkeeper and Town Tracker	Town Jailkeeper and Town Friendly Neighbor	Town Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3	Town Mason and Town Mason	Town Tracker and Town Doctor	Town Mason and Town Mason

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role. The remaining six roles will be filled in by

one mafia goon

and

five vanilla townies

appropriately, to create a

2-mafia

and

7-town

setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects.

Mafia Roleblocker

action takes precedence over a

Town Jailkeeper

action should that apply.

Mafia are able to communicate in their Private Topic at all times.

Spoiler: Full Setups

Column A & Row 1:

Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column A & Row 2:

Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column A & Row 3:

Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column B & Row 1:

Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column B & Row 2:

Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column B & Row 3:

Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column C & Row 1:

Mafia Goon x 2, Town Cop, Vanilla Townie x 6

Column C & Row 2:

Mafia Goon x 2, Town Jailkeeper, Vanilla Townie x 6

Column C & Row 3:

Mafia Goon x 2, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5

Spoiler: Sample Role PMs

Vanilla Townie

Welcome, [Player], to Newbie 2127!

You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You have no special abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Jailkeeper

Welcome, [Player], to Newbie 2127!

You are a

Town Jailkeeper

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Cop

Welcome, [Player], to Newbie 2127!

You are a

Town Cop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are

Town

or

Mafia

. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Mason

Welcome, [Player], to Newbie 2127!

You are a

Town Mason

.

You know that [Player] is Town-aligned. You also share a Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You have no active abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Town Tracker

Welcome, [Player], to Newbie 2127!

You are a

Town Tracker

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Doctor

Welcome, [Player], to Newbie 2127!

You are a

Town Doctor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Friendly Neighbor

Welcome, [Player], to Newbie 2127!

You are a

Town Friendly Neighbor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be sent a message informing them that you are Town-aligned.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Mafia Goon

Welcome, [Player], to Newbie 2127!

You are a

Mafia Goon

.

You and your partner, [Player], share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia Rolecop

Welcome, [Player], to Newbie 2127!

You are a

Mafia Rolecop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment.

Vanilla Townies

and

Mafia Goons

will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You and your partner, [Player], share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a role cop in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia Roleblocker

Welcome, [Player], to Newbie 2127!

You are a

Mafia Roleblocker

.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

You and your partner, [Player], share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

[Skygazer]

Introduction and Tips

Thanks to Irrelephant11 and others for their contributions to these tips.

Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):

-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)

Key Concepts and Tips

Activity

Try to check in at least once a day.

Besides the activity requirements listed in the moderator's original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyone

plays

. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?

Site Meta

Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...

Random Voting Stage (RVS)

Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.

Voting, E-x, and Hammers

E-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from elimination. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at E-1 (1 vote away from an elimination) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that player's elimination. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to eliminate (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see E-2 and E-3 (2 votes away from elimination and 3 votes away from elimination, respectively).

Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being eliminated, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.

Claiming Your Role

It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at E-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.

Do not fake claim a power role as town!

While it may help you avoid getting eliminated, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counterclaiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get eliminated for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.

ELo

ELo is the shortened representation of “Eliminate or Lose.” ELo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to eliminate (“quickhammer”) and win the game.

Conclusion

Mafia is hard!

As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum.

That's okay!

Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".

This is a game.

Have fun!

[Skygazer]

Apologies for the delay, I'm on vacation and the wifi hasn't been working.

All Role PMs are out! Please confirm within 48 hours.

[Skygazer]

Vestrea hasn't opened their Role PM yet, but we can go ahead and get this party started!

[Skygazer]

VC 1.00

Not Voting

(9): Claptastik, ChicagoTypewriter, Bazuf, KatyKimFanClub, Vestrea, HighFlyingDwarf, JasonWazza, Political Clout, DeltaBreedy

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate a player. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-07-18 10:15:00).

mod notes: The game has started!

[KatyKimFanClub]

VOTE: Vestrea you know I had to do it to em

[HighFlyingDwarf]

Hello everybody. First game here for a good long while. Think my old account was deleted years ago so made a new one. Haven't played PBP mafia for a while, mostly Town of Salem and stuff like that.

I will be out for most of Tuesday dealing with a medical appointment but aside from that my upcoming calendar is clear.

VOTE: ChicagoTypewriter. Outdated tech.

[Vestrea]

Hey everyone! I've played some live text Blood on the Clocktower lately with 10 minute days and frantic typing, so I'm looking forward to a slower pace and being able to organize my thoughts better. I'm away for the next weekend, will try to check in right before and right after I get back though.

VOTE: Claptastik prodding everyone in alphabetical order for now

[Vestrea]

And by alphabetical order I mean the order the non-voters are listed in, which is not even near alphabetical. Lol

[Claptastik]

VOTE: Vestrea

OMGUS or to start a wagon...you decide.

BTW my daughter is getting married tomorrow. Rehearsal dinner is tonight. So I won't be doing much until Monday.

[Deltabreedy]

Hi everyone.

I moved house today, lots of cleaning and that tomorrow, plus the British Grand Prix (McLaren fan, so losing my shit) plus a mahoosive MP game of Stellaris so I will not be around much tomorrow, as a warning.

---

Wagons are fun, and I like things that go very fast, so VOTE: Vestrea

All aboard!

E-2

[Deltabreedy]

Oh on scheduling, probably worth mentioning (it's in my sig), I'm typically somewhat inactive in the mid-week (Weds/Thurs) with working the opposite end of the country those days.

Still kind of try to post but consider me V/LA for those days.

[HighFlyingDwarf]

the British Grand Prix (McLaren fan, so losing my shit) plus a mahoosive MP game of Stellaris so

Same here with McLaren no matter how frustrating they've been over the past few years. Good drivers. Just the car leaves something to be desired.

Also pushing too many hours on Stellaris and paradox in general.

[Skygazer]

VC 1.01

Vestrea

(3): KatyKimFanClub, Claptastik, DeltaBreedy

ChicagoTypewriter

(1): HighFlyingDwarf

Claptastik

(1): Vestrea

Not Voting

(4): ChicagoTypewriter, Bazuf, JasonWazza, Political Clout

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate a player. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-07-18 10:15:00).

mod notes: Still vacationing but stay tuned for some whimsical flavor!

[Political Clout]

VOTE: Vestrea -1

[KatyKimFanClub]

UNVOTE: Vestrea

[ChicagoTypewriter]

VOTE: ChicagoTypewriter. Outdated tech.

Every game, this happens. Every game.

VOTE: Vestrea -1

Um, PC, buddy, it's a

little

early for this, don't you think?

[Deltabreedy]

Are you worried about a lolhammer?

[JasonWazza]

VOTE: Vestrea

Back to E-1 you go.

[HighFlyingDwarf]

UNVOTE: ChicagoTypewriter

Would share Typewriter's sentiment that moving someone to -1 is unnecessary at such an early stage.

Are you worried about a lolhammer?

Day 1 we're up against the odds voting out scum anyways, but would prefer to get an actual roleclaim from Vestrea if this is a serious wagon. More likely it's just being done to get reactions.

[Bazuf]

Hey guys.
4th game in this forum...

VOTE: JasonWazza
This guy's dangerous...

[JasonWazza]

You only say that because you have only seen scum game Bazuf.

[Claptastik]

Hey guys.
4th game in this forum...

VOTE: JasonWazza
This guy's dangerous...

How is he dangerous?