Twin Trap (Game Over) [TM2015]

BBmolla · Post Post #60 (isolation #0) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:10 am

Holy shit what a player list

Thank fuck I'm town

Not gonna bother voting on phone

BBmolla · Post Post #92 (isolation #1) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:49 am

Come at me ETL

BBmolla · Post Post #93 (isolation #2) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:50 am

I haven't read anything except the votes on me by the way

BBmolla · Post Post #145 (isolation #3) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:06 pm

Tell your team to suck it Serra

I'd probably not even be posting yet as scum because I'd be too scared of messing up

BBmolla · Post Post #146 (isolation #4) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:06 pm

Still just looking for comments about me on my downtime

BBmolla · Post Post #147 (isolation #5) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:07 pm

In post 96, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
In post 92, BBmolla wrote:Come at me ETL

Kinky.

But I'd prefer you do something more.

I will I'm just crazy busy today.

BBmolla · Post Post #182 (isolation #6) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:04 pm

In post 12, Ms Marangal wrote:Molla: I don't know you or your meta that well, but from what I do remember, you're a pretty strong player as town and I hope to be seeing that here.

I'm home I'll try not to disappoint.

In post 17, Quilford wrote:I also know nothing about any of you! Except Bbmolla! Hi bb

hi

Alch is scum

VOTE: Alch

BBmolla · Post Post #183 (isolation #7) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:06 pm

In post 101, Patrick wrote:5 pages and my name not even mentioned! I feel left out.

Hi Mina, bbmolla, ETL, Ms Marangal. Don't think I know the others.

Vote: Alchemist21
. Definitely seems like scum.

^town

BBmolla · Post Post #184 (isolation #8) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:07 pm

If I'm right about alch scum serra is partner

game solved

BBmolla · Post Post #185 (isolation #9) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:11 pm

jesus fuck you guys are gonna think I copied you

I saw the same shit Patrick did

BBmolla · Post Post #186 (isolation #10) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:13 pm

Pretty confident I'm not changing my vote ever

BBmolla · Post Post #187 (isolation #11) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:14 pm

If anyone has Alch meta it couldn't hurt though

BBmolla · Post Post #191 (isolation #12) » Wed Apr 01, 2015 4:14 am

If I sound like scum why aren't you voting me

BBmolla · Post Post #192 (isolation #13) » Wed Apr 01, 2015 4:14 am

And you're scum in that original vote for your shitty rvs comment

BBmolla · Post Post #208 (isolation #14) » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:01 am

In post 193, Alchemist21 wrote:Because Quilford sounded similar, and I was giving you a chance to respond.

P-edit: Holy shit, are you serious? THAT'S part of your read on me?

I like how you're interaction with me assumes my reads are real and not fabricated so you are assuming in town

Tell me more about how you think I'm scum

BBmolla · Post Post #209 (isolation #15) » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:02 am

Ask regfan what he thinks of serra

BBmolla · Post Post #210 (isolation #16) » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:04 am

(Quip it's possible Alche is just not very good, so calling him scum because he's not doing what good town do is kind of a meh argument.)

(No offense Alche. Or take offense, either way)

BBmolla · Post Post #212 (isolation #17) » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:12 am

Mina not voting someone cause others are is a garbage reason. Do you think Alche is town?

BBmolla · Post Post #214 (isolation #18) » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:13 am

I don't plan on actually being able to read bpc so get back to us on that one

And

BBmolla · Post Post #246 (isolation #19) » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:11 pm

In post 29, Alchemist21 wrote:I see RVS as an ice-breaker stage for the game where people can kinda warm up and prepare to get into the game.

This was your scum post alch

It's so fucking "I'm going to post shit for the sake of posting shit"

BBmolla · Post Post #248 (isolation #20) » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:23 pm

Alche do you think I'm bad at this game?

BBmolla · Post Post #249 (isolation #21) » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:24 pm

A game filled with veterans and content and that's the post you muster? Telling us your mafia theory about rvs?

Are you serious?

BBmolla · Post Post #250 (isolation #22) » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:28 pm

The only reason I'm voting you is cause I actually think you're scum and don't give much of a fuck how I look, if I did care that wouldn't be the best move.

Wifom idc

BBmolla · Post Post #253 (isolation #23) » Wed Apr 01, 2015 2:23 pm

In post 251, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 248, BBmolla wrote:Alche do you think I'm bad at this game?

TBH, yes.

In post 249, BBmolla wrote:A game filled with veterans and content and that's the post you muster? Telling us your mafia theory about rvs?

Are you serious?

It was page 2, or did you forget to check the post number?

Least you're honest.

My point stands.

BBmolla · Post Post #254 (isolation #24) » Wed Apr 01, 2015 2:23 pm

What makes me bad scum over bad town?

BBmolla · Post Post #255 (isolation #25) » Wed Apr 01, 2015 2:26 pm

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=60558

Before the inevitable "you can't read someone off so little" here's me catching scum page 1 so don't bother with that argument thanks.

BBmolla · Post Post #256 (isolation #26) » Wed Apr 01, 2015 2:31 pm

Your first three posts are literally nothing

Like good luck deflecting onto me, not my fault you fucking obv scummed in the first two pages.

BBmolla · Post Post #273 (isolation #27) » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:18 pm

In post 106, serrapaladin wrote:I find Alchemist's early posts (particularly the questions at quil) lack direction, as do BPC's, to a lesser extent.

^He's says this then doesn't vote you

typical scumbuddy shit

BBmolla · Post Post #274 (isolation #28) » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:19 pm

In post 270, Mina wrote:(To be completely fair to Empire, he wasn't feeling well, but trolling is still fun.)

In post 226, Mina wrote:
In post 214, BBmolla wrote:I don't plan on actually being able to read bpc so get back to us on that one

And
Have you played with BPC before? Is this typical for him?

Could you answer this if you're still around, BBmolla?

I'll be real, I get BPC confused with DV cause of the avatar. So I donno I'll go look.

BBmolla · Post Post #275 (isolation #29) » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:21 pm

I actually don't know if I've played with BPC

I think I literally just assumed BPC was DV

BBmolla · Post Post #276 (isolation #30) » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:23 pm

Is there a reason nobody wants to talk about/to me?

BBmolla · Post Post #277 (isolation #31) » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:23 pm

Just curious

BBmolla · Post Post #318 (isolation #32) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:58 am

In post 303, Ms Marangal wrote:And I am talking to my mates about molla, but iirc, they don't like him very much

why

In post 304, Ms Marangal wrote:So, currently I am sitting at molla/patrick as most likely.

why

BBmolla · Post Post #319 (isolation #33) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:02 am

Mina any particular reason you're not interacting with me

BBmolla · Post Post #321 (isolation #34) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:31 pm

Quil, Mina, Patrick

BBmolla · Post Post #325 (isolation #35) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:47 pm

In post 322, Mina wrote:
In post 319, BBmolla wrote:Mina any particular reason you're not interacting with me

Because you look like your town self, so you're not interesting to me. Sorry! <3

Solid, I figured but I wanted to confirm

BBmolla · Post Post #328 (isolation #36) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:57 pm

I can't read wallposters

Cause I don't read wallposts

BBmolla · Post Post #356 (isolation #37) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:48 am

ETL's post is gross

BBmolla · Post Post #364 (isolation #38) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:31 am

In post 359, Mina wrote:
In post 356, BBmolla wrote:ETL's post is gross

Do you mind explaining why? We got the exact opposite impression.

I felt it was super non-commital and robotic.

BBmolla · Post Post #365 (isolation #39) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:32 am

Why'd you guys like it?

BBmolla · Post Post #368 (isolation #40) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:47 am

I was referring mostly to your read on me tbh

BBmolla · Post Post #369 (isolation #41) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:47 am

In post 366, Alchemist21 wrote:Molla, what do you think of Mara?

silly reads. Still figuring out if cause scum or otherwise.

BBmolla · Post Post #380 (isolation #42) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 8:32 am

In post 370, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
In post 368, BBmolla wrote:I was referring mostly to your read on me tbh

and you wonder why i'm not fucking sure about you? you go around going "this entire post is gross" and then "oh i was just talking about that one part."

not to mention....

when have i ever been sure about you? when have i ever trusted myself to read you? when has doing so ever worked out? i specifically stated i wanted to get with my team on it because you're all kinds of wtf all the time. how is this any different from any other time i've tried to read you?

theres the etl i was looking for ty

BBmolla · Post Post #402 (isolation #43) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 8:54 pm

what about me quil

BBmolla · Post Post #404 (isolation #44) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:00 pm

I think I'm pretty easy to read

but k

BBmolla · Post Post #499 (isolation #45) » Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:33 am

Posting

BBmolla · Post Post #504 (isolation #46) » Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:19 pm

I'm pretty ready to lynch Alch btw

BBmolla · Post Post #514 (isolation #47) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:50 am

K I'm done with today

VOTE: Alchemist

scumflip inc

BBmolla · Post Post #517 (isolation #48) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:01 pm

didn't he claim?

oops

BBmolla · Post Post #518 (isolation #49) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:02 pm

well fingers crossed

BBmolla · Post Post #530 (isolation #50) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:14 pm

Well it was fun

Good acting Mina

BBmolla · Post Post #531 (isolation #51) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:15 pm

I don't see much of a point in continuing without an alch lynch btw

BBmolla · Post Post #544 (isolation #52) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:31 pm

In post 535, Ms Marangal wrote:I do really want to vote molla for that attempted hammer though considering the nature of where that sig came from

Pedit: I think he's scum, or I wouldn't be voting him

...you are aware I knew it wasn't a hammer at all

like

the whole thing was fake

BBmolla · Post Post #546 (isolation #53) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:32 pm

In post 540, Ms Marangal wrote:I don't like his push on alchemist and I want him to talk me about it

I think his early game play is scummy as fuck, the rest of his play has been him attempting to save face.

I don't see a point in continuing until he's flipped.

BBmolla · Post Post #547 (isolation #54) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:32 pm

Because depending on whether I'm wrong or right means very different people are scum

BBmolla · Post Post #550 (isolation #55) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:34 pm

ETL's reaction was pretty town, I agree with BPC

BBmolla · Post Post #551 (isolation #56) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:35 pm

In post 549, Ms Marangal wrote:
In post 546, BBmolla wrote:
In post 540, Ms Marangal wrote:I don't like his push on alchemist and I want him to talk me about it

I think his early game play is scummy as fuck, the rest of his play has been him attempting to save face.

I don't see a point in continuing until he's flipped.

I made a case on him being town ON MY PHONE. How often do I spend energy doing that kind of thing? Did you just decide to not read it?

I mean

your other reads were pretty silly why would that one be much different

BBmolla · Post Post #553 (isolation #57) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:36 pm

where is it I can't even find it

BBmolla · Post Post #556 (isolation #58) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:40 pm

I'm happy our reads are very much the same Mina it's very reassuring

BBmolla · Post Post #566 (isolation #59) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:50 pm

"He's new" isn't really an argument for him being town

I think his play matches him being new, yes, but new scum.

BBmolla · Post Post #571 (isolation #60) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:52 pm

I think it's Serra/Alch

I think Mara is off with her reads.

BBmolla · Post Post #574 (isolation #61) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:53 pm

I'm not voting anyone but Alchemist today.

BBmolla · Post Post #581 (isolation #62) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:58 pm

In post 580, Patrick wrote:
bbmolla wrote:I think it's Serra/Alch

I think Mara is off with her reads.

This would be great and would make plenty of sense of the game. Most games aren't that easy but I don't have a better theory right now.

I agree, but I'd much rather move forward with the theory than sit and doubt it.

BBmolla · Post Post #583 (isolation #63) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:59 pm

BBmolla · Post Post #585 (isolation #64) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:00 pm

Also, do you guys seriously want to lynch Patrick

Cause a town Patrick lynch day one would literally cause me to quit this site

BBmolla · Post Post #587 (isolation #65) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:01 pm

Do I think he could be scum? Doubtfully but possibly. But I'm not looking for super sekrit scum today, get the obvious partner first THAN follow the breadcrumbs to the other one.

BBmolla · Post Post #589 (isolation #66) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:01 pm

A Mara lynch is fucking pointless right now.

BBmolla · Post Post #591 (isolation #67) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:02 pm

An Alch flip of either alignment tells us SO SO SO SO SO MUCH

Add that to the fact I think he's scum

Why the fuck would we not lynch him

BBmolla · Post Post #594 (isolation #68) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:03 pm

Not really, no

In the case of Alch/Serra, the current play makes COMPLETE sense

Serra is voting Alch. If I was Alch's buddy right now I'd be bussing the shit out of him too.

BBmolla · Post Post #595 (isolation #69) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:03 pm

Town Mara flip tells us literally fucking nothing.

BBmolla · Post Post #600 (isolation #70) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:05 pm

In post 598, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 591, BBmolla wrote:An Alch flip of either alignment tells us SO SO SO SO SO MUCH

Add that to the fact I think he's scum

Why the fuck would we not lynch him

Maybe you'll answer what Quilford wouldn't. Who are your scumreads when I flip Town?

Mara and Serra.

BBmolla · Post Post #603 (isolation #71) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:06 pm

Cause then we have white knight Mara and the opposite with Serra

Add townread on Serra for no reason

I think Alch/Serra is a stronger pairing though.

BBmolla · Post Post #605 (isolation #72) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:07 pm

In post 602, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 600, BBmolla wrote:
In post 598, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 591, BBmolla wrote:An Alch flip of either alignment tells us SO SO SO SO SO MUCH

Add that to the fact I think he's scum

Why the fuck would we not lynch him

Maybe you'll answer what Quilford wouldn't. Who are your scumreads when I flip Town?

Mara and Serra.

If Serra's scum both ways why aren't you voting him?

Your flip tells us more than his.

BBmolla · Post Post #611 (isolation #73) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:08 pm

In post 607, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:bb are you going for info>scumread right now???

Alch is my top scumread and provides most info

how is this so hard to understand

BBmolla · Post Post #613 (isolation #74) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:09 pm

I just want to lynch scum, I'm not fucking moving, thanks.

BBmolla · Post Post #616 (isolation #75) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:10 pm

We've literally been sitting on our asses twiddling our thumbs the past couple days

No fucking way am I letting scum wait the wagon out to dissolve

Fuck. That.

BBmolla · Post Post #617 (isolation #76) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:10 pm

Mara is literally fucking game throwing holy fuck

BBmolla · Post Post #619 (isolation #77) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:11 pm

I'm out. Not changing votes.

Holy fuck.

Unbelievable.

BBmolla · Post Post #623 (isolation #78) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:12 pm

I'm literally going to deathvote you if we lynch Patrick and he flips town

I don't give any fucks if you are uncc'd tracker

This is fucking stupid.

BBmolla · Post Post #624 (isolation #79) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:13 pm

Mina get a claim from Alch please, I'm so fucking done with today

BBmolla · Post Post #625 (isolation #80) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:13 pm

WHY THE FUCK ARE WE LYCNHING PATRICK

I DON'T EVEN

BBmolla · Post Post #627 (isolation #81) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:14 pm

Like with such fucking great reads as "Serra is town" and "Molla is scum" and "Alch is town" WHY WOULD I FUCKING SHEEP YOU

LOL

BBmolla · Post Post #629 (isolation #82) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:15 pm

I'm unbookmarking. I don't even want to look at this game. Be back later probably.

BBmolla · Post Post #632 (isolation #83) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:15 pm

In post 628, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:BB YOUR LOGIC IS FUCKED UP.

I WANT

TO LYCNH

MY FUCKING

SCUMREAD

SERRA HAS 9 FUCKING POSTS

EXCUSE ME FOR A LACK OF CONFIDENCE IN MY SCUMREAD IN HIM

BBmolla · Post Post #633 (isolation #84) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:15 pm

In post 630, Mina wrote:
In post 592, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:because it fucking bothers me.

...you know, I think I would be mad at literally anyone else for claiming that. But thanks for attracting a NK away from someone who's even slightly on track!

LOL

BBmolla · Post Post #636 (isolation #85) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:16 pm

THERE WE GO

SO NOW WE LYNCH ALCH AND IF HE FLIPS TOWN WE STOP LISTENING TO ME

BUT WE CANT SKIP STEP ONE AND GO TO STEP TWO

BBmolla · Post Post #639 (isolation #86) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:17 pm

In post 637, Mina wrote:Can I wait for serra to come out with his catch-up before hammering?

yeah I'm okay with that

get a claim too

BBmolla · Post Post #642 (isolation #87) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:17 pm

I swear to fuck Alch if you're watcher I'm gonna cry

BBmolla · Post Post #643 (isolation #88) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:18 pm

If you are watcher we should probably lynch Serra

BBmolla · Post Post #647 (isolation #89) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:22 pm

I need Quilford

Quilford come

please

BBmolla · Post Post #652 (isolation #90) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:26 pm

In post 650, Alchemist21 wrote:We need to lynch the watch-immune goon today. That's the only way to keep trackerMara alive.

Is that you or your buddy

BBmolla · Post Post #660 (isolation #91) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:30 pm

we could like

no lynch

and let Mara die

so we can actually lynch scum

BBmolla · Post Post #664 (isolation #92) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:32 pm

alch

what are you trying to achieve

with that question

BBmolla · Post Post #665 (isolation #93) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:32 pm

other than looking like you're doing something

BBmolla · Post Post #667 (isolation #94) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:33 pm

^plausible

BBmolla · Post Post #670 (isolation #95) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:35 pm

Your flip on Patrick was trash ETL

BBmolla · Post Post #674 (isolation #96) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:36 pm

In post 669, Mina wrote:
Alchemist21 wrote:We need to lynch the watch-immune goon today. That's the only way to keep trackerMara alive.
If we lynch the watch-immune goon, the watcher watches you. It would be suicide for the other scum to attack you because they'll get caught.

These two posts might actually be the most damning pieces of evidence against Alchemist, actually.

HE'S TRYING TO WHEEDLE TOWN INTO KEEPING MARA ALIVE.

Mina

I adore you

BBmolla · Post Post #676 (isolation #97) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:36 pm

In post 673, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
In post 670, BBmolla wrote:Your flip on Patrick was trash ETL

my flip? do tell. cuz.... I'm pretty sure I was never town reading him.

why aren't you townreading him

BBmolla · Post Post #677 (isolation #98) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:37 pm

And why was Alch "maybe scum" but you've never showed any intereest in his lynch afte rthat?

BBmolla · Post Post #680 (isolation #99) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:38 pm

In post 678, Ms Marangal wrote:
In post 675, Mina wrote:WHO NEEDS A TRACKER, ANYWAY?

SHE'LL PROBABLY JUST TRACK PATRICK, AND THEN LIE ABOUT HER RESULT.

NO I WON'T BECAUSE HE'S GETTING LYNCHED TODAY

BBmolla · Post Post #683 (isolation #100) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:39 pm

It's obviously a Mina/Patrick/Molla scumteam

she got us guys

BBmolla · Post Post #799 (isolation #101) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 4:34 am

Quilford

I promise I'm not scum

just bad

BBmolla · Post Post #800 (isolation #102) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 4:35 am

I'm gonna vote Serra too, can we just talk about shit for a bit though?

Who do you think partner would be if Serra is scum Mina?

BBmolla · Post Post #805 (isolation #103) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:26 am

why don't you think I'm town Serra

BBmolla · Post Post #807 (isolation #104) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:38 am

my team's comment on this game is basically that we're fucked

BBmolla · Post Post #809 (isolation #105) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:43 am

They're gonna look at it in a bit, they were mainly just commenting on tracker dying and how watcher is now useless.

BBmolla · Post Post #811 (isolation #106) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:34 pm

ms and shos both think Quil is scum

BBmolla · Post Post #815 (isolation #107) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:26 pm

Shos said quil unvoted to prevent frustration hammers and hammered later on the same page. also that we had 4 days left, and serra and BPC still hadn't posted catchup when he did so.

BBmolla · Post Post #857 (isolation #108) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:06 am

I don't really like looking at this game cause it's pretty demoralizing

Patrick can we talk about stuff, where do you stand readswise

BBmolla · Post Post #859 (isolation #109) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:15 am

VOTE: Johnny

BBmolla · Post Post #865 (isolation #110) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:26 am

Didn't realize he was at l-1

But I don't expect thT to be believed

Shrug

BBmolla · Post Post #875 (isolation #111) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:21 pm

In post 869, JohnnyFarrar wrote:BB's deafness to those who disagree with him is annoying. Forget what I said about Espy sucking in lylo, BB would ruin lylo for town. His stance that my slot is scum regardless of Alch lynch given between pages 24 and 25 combined with his "I'm not voting anyone but Alch today" stance reeks to me of setting up future lynches, which I don't like.

I can either be confident or unconfident. That's how I work.

Yesterday I was confident and wrong.

Today I'm just unconfident.

BBmolla · Post Post #877 (isolation #112) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:22 pm

I actually need to do ISOs

opening weekend so I'm pretty busy

Hopefully time Friday

BBmolla · Post Post #878 (isolation #113) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:22 pm

I really really REALLY want Patrick input tho

BBmolla · Post Post #881 (isolation #114) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:58 pm

In post 879, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Why?

I highly value his input

BBmolla · Post Post #905 (isolation #115) » Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:28 pm

so

opening night tonight

hopefully time when I'm hungover tomorrow to do things

my team asked if I needed help and so they should be giving thoughts soon

BBmolla · Post Post #938 (isolation #116) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:08 am

Post

I'll make a post tonight

BBmolla · Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:05 am

In post 941, Mina wrote:Molla and ETL, though, please talk.

I have three hours

time to get back in the game

BBmolla · Post Post #948 (isolation #118) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:26 pm

In post 883, Mina wrote:1) pointing out small reasons of varying quality to call people scummy.

Yeah I noticed and disliked this too, it reads like keeping mislynches open.

BBmolla · Post Post #949 (isolation #119) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:30 pm

This game is pretty painful to watch, huh

BBmolla · Post Post #950 (isolation #120) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:35 pm

I'm honestly pretty okay with either a BPC/Johnny lynch

The Johnny read is a lot because I dislike his read on me because it reads as "Look at all this stuff that indicates this player is a bad player, so he must be scum"

I actually might lean BPC a bit more, because BPC seems kind of robotic.

BBmolla · Post Post #952 (isolation #121) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:36 pm

In post 920, JohnnyFarrar wrote:
In post 916, Mina wrote:7) JF, read on BBmolla. Explanation for why it's not a town read on BBmolla. Go!

My read is "This man ain't said anything useful, and now that he was so wrong on day one everyone's ok with him barely posting anything on day 2 because he's sad or something." I've seen nothing even close to content come from him (much less anything townie), and unlike Patrick he doesn't even seem to be playing to win.

Why is he town?

BBmolla · Post Post #954 (isolation #122) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:16 pm

I don't find it fathomable that anyone can have a null read on me at this point

like wtf

BBmolla · Post Post #956 (isolation #123) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:23 pm

BBmolla · Post Post #959 (isolation #124) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:50 pm

is being an ass hole a town tell for him or something

BBmolla · Post Post #960 (isolation #125) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:51 pm

Johnny with the end of yesterday I still find it hard to believe you read my posts and thought "I HAVE NO HINT OR INDICATION OF HIM BEING TOWN OR SCUM AT ALL"

BBmolla · Post Post #966 (isolation #126) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 7:18 am

In post 961, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Is conflicting reads hard to understand? Are you always super confident about everything? Because bullshit.

I definitely have more null reads as scum.

BBmolla · Post Post #988 (isolation #127) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:04 pm

In post 976, JohnnyFarrar wrote:He has done nothing to look town or scum to me because he's not playing the game.

Bullshit. You're telling me all my day 1 posts were fluff, I've never posted content?

BBmolla · Post Post #990 (isolation #128) » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:08 pm

In post 975, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
In post 974, Patrick wrote:I don't think Johnny's bbmolla stance is that hard to follow tbh.

i didn't say it was hard to follow. i said it was bullshit.

Is there a reason he's getting flak for it and Quilford isn't? They don't seem much different to me.

my team thinks he's scum anyway. let's get johnny first then quil.

If Quilford were scum, who is the most likely partner to you Patrick?

BBmolla · Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:03 pm

What do you guys want to know about me

My scum hunting today has been trash. My show just opene but more so I can't read the people in this game for shit.

BBmolla · Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:09 pm

Ask me shit.

BBmolla · Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:46 pm

patrick, town, gut
mina, town, gut
quilford, town, gut
ETL, town?, gut
BPC, scum?, gut
you, scum unless meta suggests you appease more as scum

BBmolla · Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:51 pm

My biggest fear is my Quil read

BBmolla · Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:55 pm

Actually my biggest fear is a Quil/ETL team

BBmolla · Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:47 am

In post 1015, Mina wrote:This was stated really early in the game, based on that one RVS post that I think is more likely to come from scum, but is far from 100% damning evidence--town make fluffy filler posts in RVS all the time. Um...can you explain your conviction in this? It feels overblown.

I hunt based on small shit like that. To me a post can damn someone.

Sometimes it pays off and I name a scumteam of 4. Sometimes we get this game.

To me, I can either sit around being unconfident or I can go full steam ahead with my guess. I was just honestly confident in this guess due to Alch's play and PoE, so now I'm kinda lost.

BBmolla · Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:48 am

In post 1015, Mina wrote:Did you ever look at the Alch meta Patrick provided?

no.

BBmolla · Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:49 am

In post 1015, Mina wrote:Which very different people are scum? I don't see evidence of your reads changing today.

Lastly, why do you not seem to be questioning your town read on me very seriously? I'd have expected some paranoia after Marketplace. And why didn't you answer me the first time I asked this question?

Serra was always probably scum, but never could be confident due to lack of anything. It was who the other one was that changed based on Alch's flip. (I mean, obviously.)

I trust patrick to be able to read you and he seems to think you're town. And I didn't see it.

BBmolla · Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:52 am

In post 1016, Mina wrote:Also, molla, have your teammates been weighing in on this game at all?

Basically just what I noted.

shos has a small scumread on Johhny, and thinks you are SUPER TOWN

shos said scum is in BPC, ETL, Quil, ETL and said ETL might be scum due to PoE.

before that shos said he thinks Quil is scum

MS agreed

BBmolla · Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:54 am

before that I said I didn't need help cause I thought the game was going well

but then shit hit the fan

BBmolla · Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:00 am

In post 1029, Mina wrote:(I just realized I kind of want to townread Quilford for being adorable.)

yeah this is a giant part of my worry

BBmolla · Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:01 am

In post 1034, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Sorry to see BPC go. Hopefully that team will find a replacement soon.

BB, does your remark on me mean you're checking my meta, cuz that oughtta be fun

Mina, how much would you say you Meta dive out of "paranoia" as scum?

Where's your head Quil?

I'd prefer if you just showed me your meta, it'd save me time

BBmolla · Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:03 am

I think BPC should be today's lynch

BBmolla · Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:03 am

go to bed

BBmolla · Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:04 am

Quil name the scumteam, go!

BBmolla · Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:42 am

In post 1070, Mina wrote:
In post 1057, BBmolla wrote:I trust patrick to be able to read you and he seems to think you're town. And I didn't see it.

But you seem to have been townreading me since early Day 1. Never mind that gut =/= Patrick's read.

And they said nothing on D1?

(Also, Molla, given you were in Marketplace, do you agree with my assessment of Quilford's meta?)

(Holy shit, a lot of ninjas. Post, submit, dammit.)

Nah, like I said I thought we were in good position. Then the claim and mislynch and bam "halp pls."

I donno Mina. I'm bad at reading you, I'm gonna trust Patrick's word over my own. You haven't really done anything very scummy, so?

BBmolla · Thu Apr 23, 2015 10:12 am

I don't know what you want me to tell you, I've just been seeing you as town and haven't had reason to doubt it.

BBmolla · Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:43 am

In post 1109, Mina wrote:
In post 865, BBmolla wrote:Didn't realize he was at l-1

But I don't expect thT to be believed

Shrug

This bugged me at the time--why did you think you wouldn't be believed, given everyone was townreading you?

I'd be interested in hearing people's thoughts on ETL right now.

Cause it was still a move that taken out of context looks like garbage

BBmolla · Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:46 am

I'm willing to let Brian catch up but that's probably who we should lynch today

UNVOTE:

BBmolla · Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:56 am

wasn't even a factor in my unvote

but okay

BBmolla · Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:57 am

I still think it's Johnny/BPC, but I actually want to look at Johnny meta so I can avoid Alch 2.0

BBmolla · Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:15 am

Just pointing out it isn't what it looks like

BBmolla · Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:44 am

it wasn't that ETL really

like, I know you can't believe me, but come on, I don't play like that, I'm not THAT obvious

BBmolla · Fri Apr 24, 2015 11:27 am

In post 1163, Mina wrote:Molla, do you suspect ETL?

I think she's town

BBmolla · Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:01 pm

In post 1195, Mina wrote:The thing is, I'm not really comfortable with JF and BPC, the only two lynch targets with even the slightest bit of momentum behind them, being both scum, particularly given that was what happened on D1 (and given there was almost no BPC suspicion yesterday, before he became lynchable). And I can see little things in their defence. As a result, I've been spending the bulk of my time trying to be 100% sure of the players I think are town and sorting people on the fringes so I can feel better about my picture of the game.

p-edit: What was the point of that question? (Not really, but Quilford wanted answers, so...sure?)

ask them about me

BBmolla · Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:08 pm

ask them what they think of me, I think Regfan has had pretty good success reading me and Zar was in my last team mafia game where we got rolled

BBmolla · Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:16 pm

oh k

BBmolla · Sat Apr 25, 2015 7:14 am

Beep boop Brian bot post reads

BBmolla · Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:01 am

Beep boop Brian bot post walls

BBmolla · Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:02 am

In what situation am I scum go

BBmolla · Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:03 am

Brian you honestly believe people should blindly sheep confirmed town

What happened to the legit Brian from anything goes

BBmolla · Sat Apr 25, 2015 12:16 pm

Oh

Well I'm bad

BBmolla · Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:42 pm

I have no fucking idea

BBmolla · Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:43 pm

I wouldn't even be mad if we lynched me, I don't want to be in the lylo of this game

BBmolla · Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:44 pm

Mina, in theory, how much sense would a Patrick/Etl team make

BBmolla · Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:15 pm

I'm in that "I literally think everyone is town" zone

Which means I'm probably totally off and it's one of my townreads who I'm biased towards townreading, meaning Mina and Patrick.

Cause I'm like 0/2 with scumreads so far.

BBmolla · Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:22 pm

metal sonic still thinks Quil is scum btw

he says that walls =/= quil town

BBmolla · Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:04 am

Mina I also basically helped break that setup as scum and put myself in an autolose situation

The correct scum move here is to have strong reads not fumble about

But fair enough

BBmolla · Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:11 am

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=55451

^like this. This would be how I would be playing if I actually just wanted to survive

I'm actually quite dandy being lynched today if you're suspicious of me.

BBmolla · Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:54 am

Johnny or Etl where we goin

BBmolla · Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:56 am

Or me I don't care but choose I'm in a show at the moment

BBmolla · Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:00 am

I don't know

Johnny I thibk

BBmolla · Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:01 am

I'm a sucker for etls "lynch me" stuff cause I'm in the same place

BBmolla · Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:02 am

VOTE: johnny

BBmolla · Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:26 am

I'm here wanna switch?

BBmolla · Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:27 am

I don't think quil is scum, my team does.

BBmolla · Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:29 am

UNVOTE:
VOTE: etl

BBmolla · Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:13 pm

In post 1326, Quilford wrote:It's 8:18 am. She was here 6 hours ago and didn't post. Wtf????

Pedit yeeeeppp

BBmolla · Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:14 pm

MINA IM TOWN

BBmolla · Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:15 pm

SERIOUSLY

BBmolla · Sun Apr 26, 2015 1:24 pm

Did we get a lybch or not

My show went well

BBmolla · Sun Apr 26, 2015 1:31 pm

Footloose. I got pulled into it late cause someone dropped. It's not really my kinda show but it's fun.

BBmolla · Tue Apr 28, 2015 3:54 pm

BBmolla · Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:07 pm

chill game aint over

BBmolla · Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:07 pm

if people think I'm a possibility I'm going first thanks

BBmolla · Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:56 pm

team is telling me to lynch Quilford btw

BBmolla · Tue Apr 28, 2015 8:43 pm

I'll ask

BBmolla · Wed Apr 29, 2015 8:25 am

In post 1451, Quilford wrote:I also enjoy that (but sympathise with) BBmolla being 'WOW AN ALCH LYNCH WILL TELL US SOOOOO MUCH' and then him coming into day 2 talking about how all his reads went our the window

Yeah I'm dumb. That's been thoroughly proven.

BBmolla · Wed Apr 29, 2015 8:27 am

Mina probe me about whatever gripes you have about me

BBmolla · Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:50 pm

They said it's irrelevent to meta, but one or two have played with you.

BBmolla · Wed Apr 29, 2015 8:22 pm

working on it

BBmolla · Wed Apr 29, 2015 8:49 pm

oh shit

I missed a page in my team qt

BBmolla · Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:11 pm

ok

vezok says only people who make sense as scum with Johnny are Quil and ETl. Johnny has been insistent on protecting Quilford. ETL seems like mislynch.

He quotes town to scum order and says no way he puts ETL so low as a buddy. It's between Quil and Patrick, and he defends Quil at every turn.

says ETL is definitely town, and that the pot shots Johnny took at me makes me pretty clearly town

In post 1286, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Quil how did we jump from "Johnny for town IMO" to me being your top lynch preference? You should vote ETL instead

quotes this and says Johnny was mad cause Quil was bussing

Serra called Quil town in their first post

In post 507, serrapaladin wrote:Alch is still scum. Mina is probably the other. I'll properly get to this tonight.

this makes Mina town

In post 408, Quilford wrote:BPC is also null, as I've already said I didn't like his early fencesitting. I also hate hate hated when he said Mina was 'blatantly not caring about reads' in #114, it seemed like hilariously over-the-top rhetoric in the way that scum are sometimes prone to (Mina also took issue with it, which is another reason I forgot to mention why I like her for town). But aside from his 40 hr absence a little back, he has been pretty engaged.

I have no idea whatsoever about serra. Like, none. I get town vibes and scum vibes off things but it's all gut. I should probably do some meta.

^first reference to serra from quil. scumbuddy post.

In post 958, Quilford wrote:Johnny for town imo

Quil randomly townreads scum for zero reason

Also notes Quil's turnaround on the slot

BBmolla · Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:12 pm

shos agrees

BBmolla · Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:13 pm

VOTE: Quilford

BBmolla · Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:15 pm

In post 1006, Quilford wrote:
In post 997, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:like forcing me to reinforce a read beyond what it is and then acting like having a read in that manner after doing so is some kind of tell is really something else.

I don't care. The fact that BBmolla's scumhunting isn't factoring into your read is really fucking weird.

also can I just say this is the bullshit Quil pulled in Marketplace

BBmolla · Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:02 am

At the start I didn't believe it but now I actually think it makes a lot of sense

And even if I disagreed, I'm outnumbered by my team like 3:1

BBmolla · Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:04 am

In post 1517, Quilford wrote:
In post 210, BBmolla wrote:(Quip it's possible Alche is just not very good, so calling him scum because he's not doing what good town do is kind of a meh argument.)

(No offense Alche. Or take offense, either way)

Sleepy didn't get why BB was voting Al if he thought this

Because it was a shit argument. I thought he was scum but I'm not going to support shit reasoning.

BBmolla · Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:08 am

In post 1503, Mina wrote:
In post 1501, Quilford wrote:Hey Mina, is your BBmolla vote a team-sponsored thing? I'm interested to know what they're saying.

That's also where they've been leaning, but I took the initiative to vote on my own when I saw that latest stream of posting.

It's not that anyone who suspects Quilford is scum. (If you ignore his play and look solely at his interactions with JF/serra, there's a decent case for it.) It's that Molla sounded like a robot while doing it, fell into his Serious Case Maker scum meta, and has a really unnatural 180 that I don't buy and seems based on "I need a second mislynch that I can only get while ETL is alive to win." (Not to mention the similarity to Marketplace is really stretchy.)

It's because I'm literally just reposting for you what vezok posted, no fucking shit it's gonna sound robotic.

Come on don't be dumb

BBmolla · Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:10 am

Like you said yourself I don't make cases. The only bit that is mine is the thing about quil saying I'm scum for not scumhunting, which is the same bullshit he pulled in marketplace.

BBmolla · Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:15 am

In post 1525, Patrick wrote:Mostly in jest because I felt quite relaxed about the game last night and now sneaking on and looking at this last page puts me on edge. I guess I'd have been happier if Mina had just carried on calling you obvtown.

I don't like how bbmolla's team opinion of you seemed to transition into being his opinion (unless he's voting completely on teams view and not his own). I want to hear more about when he decided that. I'll have a closer look at this game in a few hours when I don't risk losing my job in the process.

Was I not talking about how I have everyone as town and was hopelessly lost

Like did I just dream that

If my team who I know is town all agrees on quil scum while I've been getting less and less certain of etl scum, why is me thinking they could be right hard to believe.