Twin Trap (Game Over) [TM2015]
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i gotta go for real now too
byebye
get quil please-
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I'm not replacing into a scum slot again
No FUCKING WAY-
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Aaaaaaaand AH still switched out with TTH
Sounds like an empirical situation-
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But that's talk for somewhere else
That wasn't breaking rules
ugh I'm tired I stayed here for 4 hours omg-
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In post 2222, Mina wrote:I mean, I got the feeling the problem for you was the set-up being awful, swingy and more luck than skill-dependent, virtually unwinnable despite the town being dysfunctional and you and Zar successfully fooling almost everyone until late in the game, and still somehow almost in the bag until a completely out-of-nowhere plurality lynch on you an hour before deadline because you left without hammering the guy at L-1 and FUCK THE NIGHTLESS, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE TOWN THERE, ANYWAY. That was also something like Empire's fifth or sixth time in a row drawing scum on mafiascum, too. FUCK THE FUCKING NIGHTLESS.
But anyway, I don't really believe your problem would be alignment-based, anyway.
Oh, Zar says I missed that 969 isn't a partnerish post.
Yeah that's true. I had a bitching post ready in my team qt from when after Zar got hammered, but they locked the thread? No bitching from me I guess.
Anyway, I want to point out the large number of similarities between my scum play and quil's scum play here. Allegedly he's saying "meta this meta that, oh dear Mina is conftowning me because meta"
Well I managed to fool zzzx and nacho too and I suspect that have more meta on me than Mina has on quil
So it is a compliment to quil that I think he is capable of switching his meta for just this one game-
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There was no reason to ever be flustered when Mina was and will be townreading him for the entirety of the game, despite her teammates saying otherwise (notice his touchiness in Day 1 when Regfan expresses a scumread on him)
Did Zar notice me being flustered when nacho put me in the town block and Abr alive? Fucking lol-
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In post 2227, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:In post 2221, Metal Sonic wrote:Aaaaaaaand AH still switched out with TTH
Sounds like an empirical situation
I mentioned that in the post I claimed which game we used it on. his schedule was fucked.
I saw it. Taking your word for it.
Not important, help bust quil better than defending yourself ))-
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Quil is to you like what I was to nacho
With the knowledge that replacements are gamebreaking,
Break through!!-
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wow that was weird
I was expecting to unvote before ETL-
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*quil was expecting me to unvote before ETL
I dont foresee myself unvoting unless ETL bitches 1 more time about lynching herself-
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Ok, that seems like a new chapter for tomorrow
I trust that this game doesn't bombard me overnight
As scum it's worse cause you gotta keep track of all the peoples reads on you
That's why quil isn't asleep yet. I'm getting distracted from my math.
We are bad for each other's healths-
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This game is still healthier than the mother fucking nightless
I got sick thrice-
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In post 2238, Quilford wrote:weeeellllllll this just got interesting
THIS READS LIKE BEHAVIORAL SCUM TO ME
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you too <3
It's 1.30 am, assuming it's 3.30 for you?-
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In post 2256, Mina wrote:Omigod, this game is much more peaceful when MS is asleep. But Metal Sonic, for when you get back, did you post anything about this game in your team's PT on D1 or D2?
Short stuff about "quil is scum" and a bit of "alch is town" on d1
Will do mini test later-
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To answer 1) and 2)
Everyone and their mother was townreading quil at that time. JF would be dumb to not give a townread on quil as well. The problem is that their reasons for doing so are ~magic~
Remember how I was townreading Zar early too. Then after ooba d4 ATTACK I got desperate and called him scum. Only on d7 when everyone called him town then I easily shifted "oh yeah cool Zar is town"
So YES, it's very likely that Serra and JF were townreading their partner the entire game most especially when everyone else was doing so too-
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Quil vs ETL reminds me of me vs GREYICE . All that "lol ur scum cause contradictions" bullshit. It was NOT TVT, despite what I'd like everyone to think.-
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And I would have gotten away with it too but FUCK THE FUCKING NNIGHTLESS-
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In post 2262, Quilford wrote:Stop comparing your scum play to my hypothetical scum play, AGAIN
If my scum play = your current town play then I now understand how I manage to destroy town with it
DIE-
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I hope they quicklynch you
That's how they caught scum-
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Your play this entire game is scummy as fuck
Now you have to fall back on your last line of defense, meta
Meta defense against a non meta attack
Is barely evidence-
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I got a warning for that lol-
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Molla wasnt a good message sender
Especially when his top scumread was alchey I don't think he bothered to place my read
Plus I only made a side comment in the pt.
But let's not play blame games, I want quilford dead today-
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In post 2273, Mina wrote:You're welcome.
An example of a really town Quilford post:
In post 2098, Quilford wrote:Or...
I'd never played with Patrick before, so I was uncertain what to make of his unemotional, straightforward play.
After I meta'd him, I saw that he didn't tend to be very emotional as either town or scum, so I was able to factor out his lack of emotion, which gave me a stronger townread on him.
Another example of a town Quilford post:
ALL THE ONES WHERE HE'S POSTING AND GETTING EMOTIONAL AND BEING TRANSPARENT, BECAUSE HE'S REALLY EASY TO READ, DAMMIT.
Nacho townread me in the nightless too
And he had many games of meta with me
I have a strong feeling you are being fooled here-
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This is the metal diet that mollie was talking about
There is a quilford diet, even ETL is hopping off-
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In post 1098, Mina wrote:Also, why does everyone in the game have teammates who suspect Quilford? Am I just not drinking the Kool-Aid? Does NO ONE find it odd that this is nothing like his scum play has ever been? Am I the one who's crazy?
(Patrick, that's your way of preparing for when you and Quilford endgame me, isn't it? )
Pls drink the kool aid
This is an ongoing thing-
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I mean that quil being scum is an ongoing thing
No ongoing game references whatsoever-
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@Mina
"WTF WAS WRONG WITH YOU?"
the whole fucking nightless, apparently. I wasn't thinking straight-
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In post 2281, Quilford wrote:Only your teammates and ETL's teammates strongly suspect me anymore I think. And ETL said she doesn't even think her teammates are reading the game. I dont think yours are likely doing any better.
Nah I'm handling the game solo now
Good discredit though
It's not as if the scumreads on you sprung up overnight-
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In post 2285, Quilford wrote:You said 'drink the kool aid, its an ongoing thing that peoples teammates read quil scum' and I'm pointing out that it really isn't anymore.
I have clarified-
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Everyone is afraid of getting fat so they are going on a kool aid diet
They need to learn that kool aid doesn't make you fat-
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Well that's funny, because I was stewing in paranoia "wait, no, he's obviously NOT town. You're being really silly, self" with regard to quil.
Mina it's easy to call town town. I had no problem bullshitting a townread on grey despite calling him out for contradictions d1. Also note that the main players who wanted grey blood were town-
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ETL likely isn't scum because she was the 2nd one to bring pressure to Johnny. You were the first, so conftown. There
Quil never threatened Johnny until watcher claimed and it was safe to bus. Reread that part PLS-
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ITS POSSIBLE TO CHANGE YOUR META FOR A SPECIAL OCCASION THAT IS TEAM MAFIA 1 TIME ONLY-
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In post 2269, Metal Sonic wrote:Your play this entire game is scummy as fuck
Now you have to fall back on your last line of defense, meta
Meta defense against a non meta attack
Is barely evidence
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In post 2255, Mina wrote:1) viewtopic.php?t=58544&f=56&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&user_select[]=15481&user_select[]=0&user_select[]=0&user_sort=Go
2) viewtopic.php?t=31988&f=56&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&user_select[]=15481&user_select[]=0&user_select[]=0&user_sort=Go
3) viewtopic.php?t=58821&f=84&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&user_select[]=15481&user_select[]=0&user_select[]=0&user_sort=Go
4) viewtopic.php?t=51559&f=53&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&user_select[]=15481&user_select[]=0&user_select[]=0&user_sort=Go
5) viewtopic.php?t=34790&f=54&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&user_select[]=15481&user_select[]=0&user_select[]=0&user_sort=Go
Labelled for easy reference.
1) I was in this game. It was yet another zoraster game and I think was the only game I played with quilford. he had one of those human silhouette avatars at that time. I caught the scum. Then, when I had exams, I posted v/la in all my games, forgetting that there was a "no v/la in this game!" rule by zoraster. even though i could do that fake v/la thing like zzzx did (FUCK THE NIGHTLESS). oh and zoraster blacklisted me out of annoyance. lol. please ISO me in that game. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p6053229
2) Quilford was scum. Molla referenced as much in 1497, 1590 and 1611. Looking further at the endgame post, he won AND DIDN'T GET LYNCHED. so
is a lie. a shamefully terrible lie.In post 2090, Quilford wrote:My scumgame is appalling. I legit can't remember the last time I won as scum.
3) This one is new. I think he's town from #522 helping town with optimal strategy. #525 is analysis, along with 854 and 855. Okay, going to skip and look at answer.I was right, town.
4) These tests are getting fun. hmm, looking scummy as of post 300...I was right, scum*His play there is the most similar to this game, kill him?
5) He only has 31 posts... how is this remotely usable meta? Gun to head scum. *looks at playerlist* OH MY GOD ALL THE VETERANS -- Kise replaced quilford? Kise was the last to flip scum. As kuribo remarked:
kuribo wrote:wait kise replaced quilford?
god dammit, i was scum reading that shit until kise replaced in
I got them 100% right too, though I DID cheat on 2 games too cause I had prior knowledge of them.
That was fun!
Quilford is still scum.-
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In post 2302, Quilford wrote:In post 2096, Quilford wrote:That's not how reads work.
In post 2097, Quilford wrote:I was reading BBmolla as scum based on a number of factors, all of which I thought were pretty convincing in their own right.
But my meta with him suggested to me that often my BB reads were wildly incorrect, so my net read on him swung way back closer to null.
In post 2098, Quilford wrote:Or...
I'd never played with Patrick before, so I was uncertain what to make of his unemotional, straightforward play.
After I meta'd him, I saw that he didn't tend to be very emotional as either town or scum, so I was able to factor out his lack of emotion, which gave me a stronger townread on him.
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BULLSHIT
I'd like to know where meta factored in your read when you were scumreading poor Alchemist
IF YOU ACTUALLY CARE SO MUCH ABOUT META (HINT: YOU DON'T, YOU ONLY USE IT AS A CRUTCH TO GET MINA TO SHIELD YOU)
WHERE THE FUCK IS YOUR CONSIDERATION THAT
a)Alchey has only been on site for 6 months
b)Deep analysis was never Alchey's strong suit
c)He was following his town meta (I had 2 games with him, but they weren't memorable)
d)Alchey is a cutie pie
???????
In post 409, Quilford wrote:I was starting to waver a teeny bit on Alchemist because he actually posted some reasoning for me being scum that wasn't 'uuuuh he's not scumhunting' without any further elaboration. But no, fuck that. His reasoning for his reads is still abysmal, there's just more of it now. I think most of my worry here comes from the fact that he's actually at L-1 now. In TM2012 I started to waver on Captain Ajax when he was really close to being lynched (until he made an awful fakeclaim), and he was scum, and I'm scared I'm going to lose my nerve here too, despite Al being my biggest scumread by miles.
Gah.
In post 446, Quilford wrote:Hey Alchemist. Can you or any of your team buddies provide some actual close analysis? You're all very good at making sweeping generalisations about what a player is saying or doing, but you constantly fail to provide any evidence in the form of a player's words and actions in specific posts.
^^^^^^^
If you prized "meta", you would have meta'd alchemist and KNOWN THAT HE WAS NOT CAPABLE OF PERFORMING WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR
--------------------------> which youincidentallygave Johnny afree passfor!
WHERE IS THE META?
In post 472, Quilford wrote:#467 is TEXTBOOK scum and I will now officially start looking for hat recipes
WHERE DID YOU FACTOR IN SWEET META WHEN PUSHING ALCHEMIST?
not. fucking. once.
In post 481, Quilford wrote:You are still not scumhunting. Your case is basically you characterising the general thrust of groups of posts I have made. At no point do you actually delve into anything that resembles a detailed analysis of the language I'm using. There are no little things that ping your scumdar or gut one way or the other. Even in the posts you like there is no examination of why they feel genuine, or whether you agree with specific reads. Your entire case consists of a few applications of 'Here, Quilford does X. I do/don't like this.' That is not how town plays the game. It is how scum plays the game, because they're given everyone's alignments, so they don't have any reasoning behind why player X is alignment Y because either the mod told them or the mod told them something else and they're deliberately lying.
"well but you're following your town meta so hmm maybe you could be town"
NOT EVEN ONCE
In post 694, Quilford wrote:MARANGAL.
Your ENTIRE case for Alchemist being town isn't that he's SCUMHUNTING CONVINCINGLY or SOUNDING GENUINE or SHOWING LOGICAL AND COMPLEX THOUGHT PROCESSES
it's that he can't be scum because HE IS PLAYING TOO POORLY TO BE SCUM
THATS THE SHITTIEST WIFOM REASON EVER, ESPECIALLY WHEN ALCHEMIST HAS A SCUM META TOTALLING TWO GAMES, AND YOU KNOW IT
SOMEONE
HAMMER
ALCHEMIST.
"SCUM META TOTALLING TWO GAMES"
GO READ HIS TOWN META YOU BLURT
Bonus:In post 1015, Mina wrote:Did you ever look at the Alch meta Patrick provided?
did quilford ever look at it? he loooooooves getting reads via metaaaaa
In post 696, Quilford wrote:Even if you think Alchemist is town (and I've been wavering of late, just because he's so unimaginably scummy to me that maybe my brain has just snapped somehow; he is literally the source of my strongest scumread in maybe 3 years, or even more), you can at least acknowledge that with so much of the game scumreading him to some extent, and your own reasons for him being town being so weak and wifomy, he is a fantastic lynch for today.
^THIS IS NOT FROM TOWN
In post 700, Mina wrote:By the way, I'd feel guilty about starting a flash wagon now.
=20537&user_select[]=0&user_select[]=0&user_sort=Go]Here is serrapaladin in Zar's Holiday Bash.
serrapaladin is scum. No questions. He gets lynched tomorrow.
In post 702, Mina wrote:Um...
Here is the game. You can ISO him for yourselves.
Gah. I should have voted him right away.
Mina caught serrapaladin from "meta".
Town quilford would have hopped in excitement and went to look at that game to corroborate the read, then VOTE FUCKING SCUM
LETS SEE WHAT QUILFORD'S HAD TO SAY:
Spoiler: WHERE'S YOUR HEAD AT?
Spoiler: FUCKING NEUROTIC NERVOUS BREAKDOWN
NO COMMENT ON MINA'S META SERRA VOTE, I SEE!
Bonus: I just saw the link to 4) I think?
Spoiler: rereading day 2 to punch quilford more
EDITOR:I remembered Mina making a case against Johnny also which included meta elements, but couldn't find it. I remembered that Quilford was pretty reluctant to hop on, and did not make efforts to corroborate Johnny's scum meta. Not sure if this was before/after the watcher claim though. nevermind.
tl;dr you use "meta" to factor in your reads? FUCKING BULLSHIT. You're only making efforts subverting your poorish scumplay and metadefending and hugging Mina-
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THAT'S IT
I'm throwing down against Quilford. His meta links make me even more positive that he is scum; heck I read him 100% as well, and in fact in Second Fortnight I got a townread on him at post #300, and scumreading scum even earlier.
You want META? EAT MY TASTY BUSTER META
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go (speed up to 1464)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58544
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go@Patrick, summon CDB for this meta piece
Let's see, I was scumreading quil beginning at post 400 when Molla remarked this (really late):
In post 1261, BBmolla wrote:metal sonic still thinks Quil is scum btw
he says that walls =/= quil town
This was a reference to posts 400++, read that page again
In post 406, Quilford wrote:Okay so there's no googly eyes moment like I had with Mina with anyone else who I think is town.
But I do like Patrick, because he was the first to bring up Alchemist. Until then I was kind of iffy about Al, because Al was asking too many questions and responding to people's thoughts rather than having any original ones of his own, but I also thought he hadn't spent a lot of time on the site (he's definitely the least experienced player here) #55 was too cheeky for newbscum, and he could just be newbtown. So I had kind of filed him under 'look into later' in my head.
But when Patrick brought up #121, I was like 'maybe I should take a closer look'. Then I realised that Al had postedliterally no reads, almost all of his posts were part of trivial back-and-forths with people, and that he had done no digging after people's motivations of his own.
So I credit Patrick with putting me onto my first substantial scumread. I also like his meta-awareness about how Day 1 lynches tend to pan out in #311, because I find it very very relatable.
I am given slight pause by how easily he dismissed a lot of the early game in #121, and I'm unconvinced by his read on serra, but on the whole I think he's likely to be Town and at the very least isn't somewhere we should be going with today's lynch.
@Mina, I'm certain you know what I was referring to when I told molla "walls =/= town"-
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[quote="In post 2308, Quilford"]I did meta Alchemist, but as you say there wasn't enough of it, so I wasn't confident enough to factor it into my reads./quote]
HAHAHAHAHA
now you're lying. I took a quick look at Alchemist's topics and he has at least 11 games, at least 9 are town.
WHY DIDN'T YOU LOOK AT HIS PLETHORA OF TOWN META?
CAUSE YOU'RE SCUM PUSHING TOWN, THAT'S WHY-
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In post 2308, Quilford wrote:Please shut up and go away. I'm holding you back a grade in scumhunting school after we lynch ETL, who is almost certainly scum, not the least of reasons why is because she apparently now has a scumread on Patrick, hasn't liked things in his ISO, but is not bringing them up as any townie looking to avoid being lynched and lynch their top suspect would do.
YOU'RE TOAST
WE ARE NOT LYNCHING ETL TODAY. WE ARE LYNCHING QUILFORD TODAY.
he is out-
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@Mina, Vote quil
@Patrick, Vote Quil
@ETL, get yo ass back on quil-
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@ETL Patrick isn't scum because of his attempt to get a read on Johnny and his strong analysis throughout the game. Also, he had an early scumread on serra 412 which definitely does not sound like distancing. Although his townread on Johnny earlier was mushy, 1309 later does not sound like the description of a scumbuddy, though it was too late to give him a strong townread since the Watcher had already claimed.
@ Patrick, ETL isn't scum because of the Exchange with Johnny 833 is the clearest example. Pages 34,35,36 are clearly Town vs Flipped scum examples, most especially 891 does not read like a response to a buddy.
@ Mina, count how many times I have interacted with Zar during the nightless. Particularly few as compared to other players. Also, 888 has ETL as the 2nd worst scum, no way does scum place their buddy so low on the list.-
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In post 2314, Quilford wrote:For the coup de grâce, can you persuade me to vote myself???
I'm from Singapore. Not China, Not Hong Kong, Not Taiwan.
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quil obvscummed and you're having cold feet? of all people-
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ETL stop being an idiot for like 10 minutes
don't disengage from quil holy shit-
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Patrick you could help by not antagonizing ETL
Vote quil with me. Be the first to come into the light.-
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Quil will never feel pressured unless Mina or Patrick express a scumread on him
Somebody help me!-
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No, quil is bamboozling everyone. I caught him already. Now I just need to push, and I need you to help me-
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Not like he's scared of you but it helps!-
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In post 2330, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:In post 2329, Metal Sonic wrote:Quil will never feel pressured unless Mina or Patrick express a scumread on him
Somebody help me!
It's in Patrick's best interests to stay on Quil's side, as he's got two easy, viable lynches ready to go.
Patrick is never going to be lynched. You and Mina, and Quil, are all bamboozled by him. I will be lynched tomorrow, no matter what, and that will be game. I don't really... have any motivation left.
I don't plan on entering a me/Patrick/quil Lylo so woman up and vote quil NOW-
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I'm extremely sure he's scum
So I think it's just you, cold feet, and paranoia
Join back the quilford wagon-
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I think the main reason why you were never able to convince anybody on quil in the first place was because you were never really sure yourself. So you were never convincing.
I am very sure
You should get back faith-
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