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Newbie 1505 (Game Over)

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2014 3:39 pm

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Newbie 1505


Welcome to Newbie 1505! The Mafia has infiltrated your town and killed the mayor!
It's up to you to discover the identities of the bad guys and bring peace back to your home!



Moderator:
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Player List:

1)
3dicerolling
[SE]
2)
AxleGreaser
NighthawkRules

3)
Bulbazak
[IC]
4)
Doogal121

5)
Glass
mishai

6)
kyndy101

7)
mallowgeno
Chrimi
[SE]
8)
OkaPoka

9)
Xayzeck
reissebach, Incessantl


[SE] denotes a Semi-Experienced player.
[IC] denotes a Inexperience Challenged player. This player is here to help you learn to play the game. Their play is governed by the wiki article Being a good IC.

Spoiler: Living Players
1) Glass
Mafia Roleblocker

2) mallowgeno
Mafia Goon

Spoiler: Dead Players
1) OkaPoka
Vanilla Townie
Lynched Day 1.

2) Doogal121
Town Cop
Killed Night 1.

3) 3dicerolling
Vanilla Townie
Lynched Day 2.

4) Bulbazak
Vanilla Townie
Killed Night 2.

5) Xayzeck
Vanilla Townie
Lynched Day 3.

6) AxleGreaser
Vanilla Townie
Endgamed.

7) kyndy101
Town Doctor
Endgamed.

Game Links:

Day 1 | Night 1
Day 2 | Night 2
Day 3
Game Over
Last edited by Zaicon on Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:48 am, edited 11 times in total.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2014 3:41 pm

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Game Rules

All Forum Rules and Guidelines should be followed, along with the following rules.


Game Timeline
  • Day phases will last two weeks.
  • Night phases will last two days.
General Rules
  • Do not quote your role PM or any other PM/QT communication from the mod.
  • Do not contact any player in or outside of the game about the game.
  • Do not use encrypted or hard-to-see text (including "invisible" text, text below the 50% text size option, or text hidden via BBCode (not including spoilered text)).
  • Do not edit or delete posts in this thread. If you made a formatting mistake, I will fix it for you (if it doesn't change the content of the post).
Activity
  • If a player doesn't post in-game after a period of 48 hours, other players may request a prod of that player.
  • If a player doesn't post in-game after a period of 72 hours and another player hasn't made a request, I will prod that player.
  • If a player is prodded, that player has 24 hours to make an in-game post before a replacement will be found.
  • If a player receives multiple prods and/or prod-dodges excessively, that player will be subject to a force-replace.
  • If you are going to be absent for a specific period of time, please let me know ahead of time!
Votes and Lynching
  • Votes must be in the format of VOTE: Player Name or
    VOTE: Player Name
    . Abbreviations, missing punctuation, and misspellings will be accepted as long as it is obvious to me who is being voted for. If I perceive it as a vote, it will count as a vote.
  • Unvotes are not necessary to change a vote.
  • A player will be lynched if a majority of the players have voted for that player.
  • You may vote for a
    No Lynch
    . If a majority of players vote for a No Lynch, the game will proceed to Night without a lynch.
  • All living players, including the lynchee, may continue to post until I lock the thread.
  • Once I have posted your death scene, you may not post ("bah" posts are not allowed).
Behavior
  • Harassment of an individual player is NOT permitted. While this is a competitive game, no personal attacks will be tolerated.
  • Always play to your win condition.
  • Do not discuss this game anywhere else with anyone else unless your role allows you to.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2014 3:42 pm

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Game Setup


This game is using the standard Newbie Game setup, Matrix6. One row or one column will be randomly chosen from the table below and the remaining six roles will be filled in by Mafia Goons and Vanilla Townies as appropriate to create a total of 2 Mafia-aligned players and 7 Town-aligned players.

ABC
1
Town Jailkeeper
Vanilla Townie
Mafia Goon
2
Mafia Roleblocker
Town Cop
Town Doctor
3
Town 1-Shot Bulletproof
Mafia Goon
Town Tracker


Please note:
  • The Mafia must specify who is performing what Night action when the actions are submitted.
  • In applicable situations, a Roleblocker's action will resolve before a Jailkeeper's action.
  • In applicable situations, a Mafia Roleblocker has the option of submitting both roleblocks and kills, even when the Mafia Goon is still alive.
Spoiler: List of Role PMs
Role PM wrote:You are a
Vanilla Townie
.

Abilities
  • During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  • During the Night, you may sleep.
Win Condition
  • You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me. Please confirm your participation in this game by responding to this PM with your role name. The game thread is here.
Role PM wrote:You are a
Town Cop
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Abilities
  • During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  • During the Night, you may investigate one player by sending me the name of your target via PM. At the end of the Night, you will receive a result in the form of
    You believe [target] to be [Guilty/Not Guilty]
    . If you did not successfully investigate someone, you will receive
    No Result
    .
Win Condition
  • You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me. Please confirm your participation in this game by responding to this PM with your role name. The game thread is here.
Role PM wrote:You are a
Town Doctor
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Abilities
  • During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  • During the Night, you may protect one player by sending me the name of your target via PM. You may not target yourself. You will not be informed as to the result of your protection.
Win Condition
  • You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me. Please confirm your participation in this game by responding to this PM with your role name. The game thread is here.
Role PM wrote:You are a
Town Jailkeeper
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Abilities
  • During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  • During the Night, you may place one player in Jail by sending me the name of your target via PM. They will be protected from kills and prevented from using their own ability, if they have one. You cannot target yourself.
Win Condition
  • You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me. Please confirm your participation in this game by responding to this PM with your role name. The game thread is here.
Role PM wrote:You are a
Town Tracker
.

Abilities
  • During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  • During the Night, you may track one player by sending me the name of your target via PM. At the end of the Night, you will be told if that player targeted anyone and whom that player targeted.
Win Condition
  • You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me. Please confirm your participation in this game by responding to this PM with your role name. The game thread is here.
Role PM wrote:You are a
Town 1-Shot Bulletproof
.

Abilities
  • During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  • You will survive the first kill attempt made on you during the Night. You will not be informed if and when this happens.
Win Condition
  • You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me. Please confirm your participation in this game by responding to this PM with your role name. The game thread is here.
Role PM wrote:You are a
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with your partner, name (
role
).

Abilities
  • During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  • As a team, the Mafia may kill one player per Night by sending posting on the Mafia QT or sending me a PM with your target and which one of you will be performing the kill.
  • You may talk to your partner during the Night at this QuickTopic thread.
Win Condition
  • You win when the Town is eliminated and at least one Mafia-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me. Please confirm your participation in this game by responding to this PM with your role name. The game thread is here.
Role PM wrote:You are a
Mafia Roleblocker
with your partner, name (
Mafia Goon
).

Abilities
  • During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  • Individually, you may roleblock one player by sending me the name of your target by PM. You may both roleblock and kill during the same Night.
  • As a team, the Mafia may kill one player per Night by posting on the Mafia QT or by sending me a PM with your target and which one of you will be performing the kill.
  • You may talk to your partner during the Night at this QuickTopic thread.
Win Condition
  • You win when the Town is eliminated and at least one Mafia-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me. Please confirm your participation in this game by responding to this PM with your role name. The game thread is here.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Mon May 12, 2014 3:59 pm

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Role PMs have been sent out. The game will begin when 8/9 players have confirmed.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Thu May 15, 2014 3:55 am

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Replacing Chrimi and NighthawkRules; the game will start when either of the two new replacements confirm.
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Fri May 16, 2014 9:32 am

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With everyone confirmed, Day 1 can begin!


Vote Count 1.0


No Vote (9):
3dicerolling, AxleGreaser, Bulbazak, Doogal121, kyndy101, mallowgeno, mishai, OkaPoka, reissebach

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch!

Deadline is Friday, May 30, at 3:30 PM CDT, which is in (expired on 2014-05-30 15:30:00).
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Fri May 16, 2014 9:36 am

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Hello everyone, I'm your friendly SE. I can answer questions and stuff if needed.

VOTE: vote: Bulbazak

The IC is prob scum.
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Fri May 16, 2014 9:38 am

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That failed.

VOTE: Bulbazak
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Fri May 16, 2014 1:09 pm

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I think perhaps Mishai is scum.


Mishai



Hey, 3dicerolling, can SE people be scum?
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Fri May 16, 2014 1:34 pm

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Anybody can be. It's randomized between the playerlist.
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Fri May 16, 2014 1:56 pm

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Vote reissebach


Obviously r is for pirate. Pirate=Scum. Reissebach is scum.
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Fri May 16, 2014 2:41 pm

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Hello everyone! My name is Bulbazak, and I'll be your friendly neighborhood IC for this game. I am here to help all you new players learn how to play and grow accustomed to our fair site. My play is dictated by the article that our mod mentioned, so feel free to ask me about anything related to how to play the game or mafia theory. This game also marks the 200th Newbie game since my first on the site, so I'm hoping that it will be a good introduction to many of you on how to play the game. I also advise that all those that do not have avatars please get them. They help us to tell your posts apart.

This beginning segment of the game is known as RVS (Random Voting Stage), or for those who don't like to vote willy-nilly, RQS (Random Question Stage). The idea is to use these random elements to produce content in the hopes of actually finding something somewhat scummy or suspicious and jump starting the game. Generally, by the time a wagon has gained 3 or more players, RVS is essentially over, as there should be plenty of info to go over.

Before we'd begin, I'd like to know how much mafia experience everyone has. This will help me gain a better idea of how I can help you. I, for example, have been playing Mafia for over a year and a half, and I have over 35 games worth of experience.

Now without further ado...

Vote 3dicerolling


Because OMGUS.
Bulbazak is so town that everytime someone votes him Mastin coughs blood.
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Fri May 16, 2014 2:56 pm

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Vote: Doogal121
because everyone knows that palindromic squares are a scumtell. The movie doogal also deserves mention.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Fri May 16, 2014 4:00 pm

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Vote 3dicerolling
for throwing down first vote.
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Fri May 16, 2014 4:02 pm

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I have played a lot of mafia on a different site that had a live chat room, quick games. I think I've played like maybe 5 or 6 here? I'd have to check my wiki but I haven't played in about 2 years I think.
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Fri May 16, 2014 6:28 pm

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Spoiler: Bulbazaks post
In post 11, Bulbazak wrote:Hello everyone! My name is Bulbazak, and I'll be your friendly neighborhood IC for this game. I am here to help all you new players learn how to play and grow accustomed to our fair site. My play is dictated by the article that our mod mentioned, so feel free to ask me about anything related to how to play the game or mafia theory. This game also marks the 200th Newbie game since my first on the site, so I'm hoping that it will be a good introduction to many of you on how to play the game. I also advise that all those that do not have avatars please get them. They help us to tell your posts apart.

This beginning segment of the game is known as RVS (Random Voting Stage), or for those who don't like to vote willy-nilly, RQS (Random Question Stage). The idea is to use these random elements to produce content in the hopes of actually finding something somewhat scummy or suspicious and jump starting the game. Generally, by the time a wagon has gained 3 or more players, RVS is essentially over, as there should be plenty of info to go over.

Before we'd begin, I'd like to know how much mafia experience everyone has. This will help me gain a better idea of how I can help you. I, for example, have been playing Mafia for over a year and a half, and I have over 35 games worth of experience.

Now without further ado...

Vote 3dicerolling


Because OMGUS.

rats...
I kind of hoped you were going to vote for an SE because one is bound to be scum then I was going to vote the other that way 100% one of us is voting for scum as (amongst other things) I thought that was a funny RVS vote the first time I saw it.
However.

vote: mallowgeno


because
mallowgeno wrote:I have played a lot of mafia on a different site that had a live chat room, quick games.
I am used to quicker games too. (6 previous 48hr/day games)

RVS. (I dont do random voting ... I do reasoned voting)
I treat RVS as choosing a dance partner.

So
@mallowgeno
lets dance. (I live in +10tz but could probably meet for a quick introductory tango sometime if you like)

are you scum bro?

(also @anyone feel free to cut in, I am male but can sometimes multitask)







In other news.

Spoiler: Before Wed begin
@response to bulbs IC question, which I believe is also useful stuff for others to read about me, in order to better determine my alignment.
In my experience,
Another good reason to get to know people (even though it looks like not scum hunting) as people is it helps put any accusation you say in context. I for instance am likely going to say way more words, maybe post more often, than people on this site seem to like.
I find It makes it harder for scum to misrepresent people by accidentally on purpose taking words etc out of context if all the context is there and its not in short hand.

I had intended to post a bunch of stuff that would answer the question about my experience and what kind of stuff (level of play, gambit/ruse/intrigue trap) to expect before the game started on a wiki page unfortunately the game caught me by surprise. Some of it is now possibly inappropriate. Ill go through it later and post some in spoiler.

My experience is in my a view a little complex. I played only 6 games (over two years or so) of any kind of mafia anywhere, but that totally misrepresents the amount of time (many years that I thought about the game first, I read or heard about scientific paper on asymmetric information games a long time ago and then thought about it rather a lot while playing rather too many games of various kinds.). So in terms of "game theory" (in any mathematical sense) I am probably more than good to go on my own merits. In terms of real world practice and what is standard cultural form on this site feel free to educate me. or as you say "and grow accustomed to our fair site." and so far I find some stuff fairly confusing. Time will tell it usually does. Also I am probably interested in a theoretical sense about your IC role... as I have other experience in similar positions and long(generational) deep and abiding interest in education and learning both of myself and others, and I find the concept of playing and in some sense teaching intriguing complex and ..., I know I can do that when playing cards, doing it in mafia seems trickier. Any meta discussion/questions I have in that regard however I think probably ought remain outside of game after game.

Finally: me and reading games I didnt play in, yes i do ... a lot. (I have spent more time analysing games I didnt play in than ones I did. I like to watch.)
if you are catching anysense .. is that an oblique reference to...
yep.
I also read(pretty fast for feels) a number of games on this site, including those of people I was likely to be playing the game with or other site notables.



Other content.

I specifically have not only to chosen to vote for mallowgeno
I specifically have chosen not to vote for Bulbazak.
Indeed I chose that before opening the thread.
Id claim whether or not I chose it before reading role PM but that would be WIFOMy or something at least entirely unsbstantiable until I have done it few times.

vote: mallowgeno


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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Fri May 16, 2014 6:59 pm

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First of All, Bulbazack... Do you like an opening speed/wagon lynch? Because I think that depending on the outcome it could really shift the game in town's position.
But my real question is why is Mallowgeno riding a train this early on against 3Dicerolling?
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Fri May 16, 2014 7:25 pm

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In post 16, OkaPoka wrote:First of All, Bulbazack... Do you like an opening speed/wagon lynch? Because I think that depending on the outcome it could really shift the game in town's position.
But my real question is why is Mallowgeno riding a train this early on against 3Dicerolling?
Is your real question to Bulabzak or 3dice rolling?
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Fri May 16, 2014 7:28 pm

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EBWOP fixed the who is the question too.
In post 17, AxleGreaser wrote:
In post 16, OkaPoka wrote:First of All, Bulbazack... Do you like an opening speed/wagon lynch? Because I think that depending on the outcome it could really shift the game in town's position.
But my real question is why is Mallowgeno riding a train this early on against 3Dicerolling?
Is your real question to Bulabzak or Mallowgeno?
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Fri May 16, 2014 7:31 pm

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In post 16, OkaPoka wrote:First of All, Bulbazack... Do you like an opening speed/wagon lynch?
No. I feel it has the potential to end the day early and keep information away from the town that they could have gotten during a full day phase. Also, I will policy lynch anyone who hammers a person without giving intent first and time for a claim/final thoughts.
In post 16, OkaPoka wrote: Because I think that depending on the outcome it could really shift the game in town's position.
How?

Unvote

Vote AxleGreaser
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Fri May 16, 2014 7:56 pm

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Bulba, why you unvote?
Also If the lynched is town, look at the people in the wagon and you narrowed down the scum.
If scum, partner most likely exposed due to vote count analysis.
But why you unvote and revote so suddenly?
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Fri May 16, 2014 8:11 pm

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In post 19, Bulbazak wrote:
Unvote

Vote AxleGreaser
Pretty sure you dont so random voting either, so you have a reason for that.
Pretty sure that if you felt like sharing it at the moment you would have.

Would you like clarification on anything I left hanging in what I said so far, or are we just going to slow dance for bit.
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Fri May 16, 2014 8:18 pm

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In post 20, OkaPoka wrote:Bulba, why you unvote?
Because I felt like it.
In post 20, OkaPoka wrote: Also If the lynched is town, look at the people in the wagon and you narrowed down the scum.
Since we're talking about a quick lynch, how do you even know if there were scum on the wagon. And if there are, where would they be?
In post 20, OkaPoka wrote: If scum, partner most likely exposed due to vote count analysis.
How?
In post 20, OkaPoka wrote: But why you unvote and revote so suddenly?
Reasons.
In post 21, AxleGreaser wrote: Would you like clarification on anything I left hanging in what I said so far, or are we just going to slow dance for bit.
I like the slow dance option. I'll see if I feel differently when I check back in on the game on Sunday.
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Fri May 16, 2014 9:50 pm

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This is my first game of online mafia, but I have played a lot un real life. I'm not sure how different the strategy is, but it seems to me that no lynch is our best option. Odds are almost 80% that we would lynch town with no information, and actually the mafia do have information because they know who each other are.
After all that I have to say
vote: no lynch

please correct me if I'm wrong about all of this.
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Fri May 16, 2014 10:53 pm

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In post 22, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 21, AxleGreaser wrote: Would you like clarification on anything I left hanging in what I said so far, or are we just going to slow dance for bit.
I like the slow dance option. I'll see if I feel differently when I check back in on the game on Sunday.
You appear to be a gentleman, I will trust your hands for a slower dance, for now.

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