Newbie 1568: Cleveland Mafia - Game Over

[Jake from State Farm]

Well, since House and I are both dead now. Zar, I agree with House in lynching Jake tomorrow.

Jake makes the most sense for the NK on Neo, and he never did a real analysis of the NK on Brick. Also, I still don't like the method he used to go after your slot Zar.

Nether, If you are scum, Both House and I will be beating ourselves up with our terrible scumhunting. Still, I don't think you are and I'd like to see Jake lynched tomorrow.

You better start beating yourself up cause if house flips town, nether is scum. You have already showed bad scum hunting by thinking I could possibly be scum, espeiclaly with that bs case you made where you intentionally misrepred me. So yeah I'm fucked. Town loses if house is town

[Jake from State Farm]

Bye thanks for making it easier for nether to decide to kill, he's obviously not going to kill you pulidar. Thanks alot

[Jake from State Farm]

BTW*

[Jake from State Farm]

I still think house is flipping scum here. Still dont see why house would ever hammer as town

[Netherspite]

Well I'll be glad if he's just trolling.

And if he's not... nice try playing innocent townie.

[Jake from State Farm]

I'm not playing anything

[Nobody Special]

Votecount 3.07

Pulindar -

0

^[L-3]

Zar -

0

^[L-3]

Jake from State Farm -

2

^[L-1]

Pulindar
Netherspite -

0

^[L-3]

House -

3

^[L-0]

Jake from State Farm, Netherspite, House

House would be lynched at deadline

With

[5]

alive it takes

[3]

to Lynch or No Lynch.

ACTIVITY CHECK

:

V/LA: Pulindar, through Friday, March 6

Not Voting:

Zar

Deadline in (expired on 2015-03-07 02:27:59)

[Nobody Special]

House, Vanilla Townie,

has been lynched.

Night Three begins now.

All Night actions are due in my inbox by deadline.

Deadline: (expired on 2015-03-03 15:02:28)

[Nobody Special]

My apologies. Day Four will start in 3-4 hours.

[Nobody Special]

Pulindar, Town Doctor,

has been shot.

Day Four begins now.

With 3 alive, it takes 2 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2015-03-18 16:06:41)

[Netherspite]

@Jake from State Farm

I am really impressed by your scum play.
You managed to fly under the radar the whole D1 D2. No one ever suspected you.
I couldn't find slightest association tells with

dodgy56

.
The only exception was may be the one

House

found, where you was confused by

dodgy56

not scumreading

House

.
Until the last moment I was even thinking that there's something in the setup I'm missing, that it's not you, that it's someone of

Zar

and

Pulindar

. But this is clearly not possible: if we didn't have a Doc,

Zar

wouldn't get "No Result". And if we didn't have Cop, we would have a Tracker who would CC. So this leaves us only with you as the scum.

Well, what can I say.
Regardless of whether

Zar

will make right choice and we'll win or whether he'll make wrong choice and town will lose... I'll still say that you've played well and really carried the scum team despite the terrible

dodgy56

's play. Respect

VOTE: Jake from State Farm

[Jake from State Farm]

Thank you for the compliment, however I still am not scum.

Hopefully House is banned for a few months for being an IC because that self hammer was inexcusable. I will be reporting him to the newbie mod once this game is completed. To the newbies playing along, NEVER self hammer yourself as town. You shouldn't even self vote either but self hammers are bad.

vote: nether

[Netherspite]

Well, you can't be town. Using PoE.

Zar

is Cop and I'm VT according to my role PM.
This leaves us only with you unless the Mod accidentally created no second scum which I doubt.

[Netherspite]

Regarding

House

. I agree that he shouldn't have self-hammered. This is against the rules.
Also if he didn't I could make right choice and lynch you instead, ending the game.

[Jake from State Farm]

no my role pm says I am VT

[Netherspite]

It can't.
Well, surely you can't admit you're scum since that's against the rules too.
Soon we'll see it anyway.

[Netherspite]

Btw, I'm curious.

Why did you kill

Pulindar

and not

Zar

?

[Jake from State Farm]

sometime tomorrow I will restate my points against you and also see if i can find anything else that helps prove you are scum.

p.edit - I didn't kill anyone.

[Netherspite]

I don't think he killed himself so it definitely was you

Yeah, I'd like to see how are you going to scumpaint me.

[Jake from State Farm]

I guess you aren't even going to bother trying to scum paint me? I guess you don't have to when you think you have the game wrapped up. Also what happened to you going through pulindar's case and pointing out the things you agreed with?

to date nobody has been able to make a good case on why i am scum and now you are just calling me scum because of POE.

As I said yesterday, I have done nothing to deserve being scum read, I don't even think I have done anything remotely scummy other than my bouts of inactivity which were for legitimate reasons.

Oh and going back I guess I didn't really make a case on nether like I thought I did. The only thing I pointed out was his vote on prawn where he thought he was placing the L-1 vote which would have allowed Brick to hammer. Turns out he wasnt at L-1 but him not announcing it was bad. Hopefully I can find some relational tells between him and dodgy.

[Netherspite]

The result of my analysis of

Pulindar

's case was my vote on

House

.

I've explained my vote on

prawneater

ages ago.

There are obviously no association tells between me and my main scumread since beginning of D2...
But I'd really like to see how you will scumpaint me.

You're right, you didn't do anything scummy the entire game. Except for the small things may be.
So I'm not even sure if it's worth it to bother and try to prove the truth when it can't be proven.
I have no Cop results or anything like this to prove it.
I just hope for the

Zar

's sanity.

[Netherspite]

Forgot to say, if

Zar

will make wrong choice, it will be definitely my fault that I didn't hammer

Jake from State Farm

yesterday.
Town can put the whole blame on me. I had lots of time to make a choice and made a wrong one.
I shouldn't have gone for the obvious choice...

[Zar]

Dear Newbies who are still reading this game.

Last days performance was a lesson from our IC

on exactly what you shouldn't do

if you are town.

If House had only bothered to wait for me to come by the thread to post, he would have known I would have probably voted Jake over him...

On the other hand, if Jake had flipped town yesterday I would have had a really hard time deciding between House and Netherspite

I'm still not 100% convinced it's Jake, so I'm going to read a little before making my vote.

Pulindar If I make a mistake I'm really sorry

[Zar]

Okay,

1) Occam's razor suggests neo was a doc hunt kill rather than anything else. So, killing neo to use it as a frame job against House can be disregarded.
2) Since dodgy flipped goon, putting Netherspite!scum in a suspicious position feels to me counterproductive; dodgy cornering himself to fakespear/neo + netherspite does not seem like a good strategy here.
3) Evidently, I was right about dodgy clinging his vote to House in the end being an unlikely partnership connection.

[Zar]

if we lynch neo and he flips town im voting nether. If he flips scum nether is pretty much conftown in my eyes as i dont see fake vs nether d1 as scum vs scum. so id lynch pulindar. the reverse is true as well.

Let's try to peek into dodgy's brain, and assume nether is town in this scenario, since I've thought he's likelier to be town regardless:

neo lynch -> NK -> nether lynch = Scum Victory?
Pulindar lynch -> NK -> nether/neo lynch = Scum Victory?