DkKoba's Mini Normal Review, November 2021

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ego

about to sleep so will actually process this in the morning

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ok, this sure is A Setup

so, the three masons are obviously confirmed town. the town complex joat can only get results on 1 mason, 2 mafia, or the miller. by far, the strongest of the abilities is gunsmith (since scum can just have their ascetic buddy making the kill, therefore detective won't be able to get a guilty), but the gunsmith can get a guilty on the mason. the mafia's power seems fine in response, i like that they're informed of the joat. though noted that they don't have daytalk. (also i find it amusing how the vig-doc mason can kill their own partners.)

a potential problem i'm seeing with the setup is the following (imho not unlikely) sequence: miller claims at the start of day 1 > complex joat uses the gunsmith on the miller > gets a no-gun > treats that as a clear. town having 3 masons is already decently strong, and this is a potential of 1-2 additional confirmed townies.

what is the purpose of the miller in the setup in the first place?

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are the encryptors deliberate or have you forgotten you can just enable global daytalk?

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i don't have any other concerns, so the setup in 10 seems fine to me.

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With 3 masons, any successful action from the JOAT is pretty much a guilty.

this did not occur to me at all, good point.

scum knowing the full setup seems like a reasonable move here? it's a decent buff to the rolecop as well, but it might as well be needed.

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as someone who once got utterly fucked by scum's smart fakeclaim because they knew i was a mason and i didn't know that they knew, the answer is yes but s_s is probably the smarter and more objective person to answer that.

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But maybe it's okay, I'm not sure most lobbies would have a fine enough sense of balance to be able to call it out.

i've definitely seen scum get away with claims that *should* have been scumclaims, but i'm not sure if it's good practice to be balancing the setup on the assumption that nobody in the town will know enough about balance

but i'm definitely not sure if i have any solutions other than straight up telling scum the setup. maybe some kinda informed that gradually learns info about the setup? n1 there's a complex joat > n2 there's two ascetics > n3 there's 3 masons? that's maybe a bit late though

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bump?

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i am actually not 100% sure what the final setup is (what the informed scum is informed about) so i was planning to wait until role pm's are done to give my opinion

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if s_s is okay with passing this setup, i am too, it looks fine otherwise.