Can someone walk me through why anyone would think a vig killed klick? Was there something I didn’t see day 1? It’s a crazy jump for Titus to believe you were blocked as scum and vig killed instead of the statistically more likely option that literally anyone else was scum and killed klick, as scum. How is that the prevailing interpretation of night 1’s events? Is it just an insanely strong belief in her read? Because I also don’t understand where her confident scum-read came from.In post 2245, Dannflor wrote: idk titus claimed gated roleblocker and said she blocked me last night and that's why she thought a vig killed Klick and I was scum
Mini Normal 2329: complex. [game over!]
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True but this seems like a huge leap from “I scumread him” to “there’s no way he wasn’t scum and also no way he wasn’t the one that took the shot”. (Yeah, yeah, says the person willing to take a bullet for Hu against her will apparently.)In post 2254, Dannflor wrote:
you say this as though this game hasn't been full of townies with insanely strong beliefs in their readsIn post 2251, KayJayQueue wrote: Is it just an insanely strong belief in her read?-
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I’m falling in and out of sleep. Last time hammer happened while I was asleep. That being said…
VOTE: NAS-
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Omfg PC
I didn’t know I was going to be hammer wow what timing. No need to kill me tonight, I’ll be yeeted day 3 after that just happened.-
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WhewIn post 2274, Dannflor wrote: i think i'll blame RN for this elimination too-
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Is this a code word??In post 2281, Political Clout wrote:
a ninjaIn post 2280, KayJayQueue wrote: What is a p-edit? Wait I need a pdf of terms stat-
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Thank you-
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Does anyone know if the order they are posted means anything?In post 2287, Datisi wrote:Dannflor has been killed night 2. he was avanilla townie.
davesaz has been killed night 2. he was avanilla townie.
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I thought there were roles that can protect you?In post 2357, Random Nurse wrote: K, so, I'm so gonna die Night 3.-
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I don’t recall this at all, am I majorly blanking? Does vig have multiple shots? But you’re confirmed, how does that make any sense anyway?In post 2364, Random Nurse wrote: I do think one of the Vigs targeted me though. Night 1? Can't remember off the top of my head.-
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That’s right, isn’t that the night Titus claimed to blocking someone?In post 2366, Random Nurse wrote:In post 2364, Random Nurse wrote: I do think one of the Vigs targeted me though. Night 1? Can't remember off the top of my head.
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Only 8:30 for meeeIn post 2373, Psyche wrote: this conversation reads like a near midnight conversation yessirree-
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And just checking again I’m not sure my earlier question was answered, do we know if the order it was posted means anything to which kill was which last night?-
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How many times can the vig kill? Is it 2, that’s why we’re speculating them having 2 kills? I feel like it’s obviously 100% they killed last night, I don’t know how else to account for 2 deaths. First night kill is just a guess?-
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Did we forget Hu or is she last?In post 2402, Psyche wrote:
this is the proposed order! maybe most controversial part is the clout positionIn post 2391, Psyche wrote:
still think we should roughly try to stick to this claim orderIn post 2307, Hu Tao wrote: geraintm, Aristeia, Titus, KayJayQueue, Psyche, Political Clout.
This should be the claim order IMO-
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I guess I should be taking notesIn post 2405, Aristeia wrote:
Hu claimed VT on day oneIn post 2404, KayJayQueue wrote:
Did we forget Hu or is she last?In post 2402, Psyche wrote:
this is the proposed order! maybe most controversial part is the clout positionIn post 2391, Psyche wrote:
still think we should roughly try to stick to this claim orderIn post 2307, Hu Tao wrote: geraintm, Aristeia, Titus, KayJayQueue, Psyche, Political Clout.
This should be the claim order IMO-
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I think my information would be better to give once everyone has claimed but I can give what my role is now. I almost want to insist on holding my info because it could be useful if anyone doubleclaims.-
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I am “informed”. I’m sure there might be a guess as to the modifier since I gave something away, but I’ll hold onto the rest until the other claims.-
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I’ll never make that mistake againIn post 2444, Political Clout wrote: and then kjq can accidentally on purpose hammer again.-
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In post 2447, Political Clout wrote:
The only reason I’m not kicking myself about it!In post 2445, KayJayQueue wrote:
I’ll never make that mistake againIn post 2444, Political Clout wrote: and then kjq can accidentally on purpose hammer again.
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The only reason I’m not kicking myself about it!In post 2447, Political Clout wrote:
it was a cool hammer though.In post 2445, KayJayQueue wrote:
I’ll never make that mistake againIn post 2444, Political Clout wrote: and then kjq can accidentally on purpose hammer again.
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Yes when do we get the who and why of last night? Very curious about it!In post 2470, Aristeia wrote: unfortunate you didnt shoot gera-
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PCIn post 2484, Hu Tao wrote:
Who is the specific player?In post 2477, KayJayQueue wrote: So we have no doubleclaims then right? My info is about just one player.-
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I found out PC’s alignment. I only got information night 2 though.In post 2488, Hu Tao wrote:
Darn. Okay. Out it. What is it?In post 2485, KayJayQueue wrote:
PCIn post 2484, Hu Tao wrote:
Who is the specific player?In post 2477, KayJayQueue wrote: So we have no doubleclaims then right? My info is about just one player.
Any guesses? lol-
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I have no idea why it was them in particular. I didn’t get to like choose who to get the information about or I might’ve chosen someone else. It just said I learn that they are aligned with the town.In post 2491, Hu Tao wrote:
Just say it. Also why was it PC in particular?In post 2490, KayJayQueue wrote:
I found out PC’s alignment. I only got information night 2 though.In post 2488, Hu Tao wrote:
Darn. Okay. Out it. What is it?In post 2485, KayJayQueue wrote:
PCIn post 2484, Hu Tao wrote:
Who is the specific player?In post 2477, KayJayQueue wrote: So we have no doubleclaims then right? My info is about just one player.
Any guesses? lol-
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“Night 2 Informed Townie”In post 2496, Psyche wrote: what is your full role name-
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I just didn’t want to give all the info away before everyone else claimed because if there was a chance you and PC actually double claimed, I would’ve been able to my shining moment of this game-
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I’m not allowed to copy word for word right? I’ll just paraphrase it because I don’t want to break the rules. Basically, I was told I would be given info on the second night about some aspect of the game. The second part says I don’t have any active ability.In post 2581, Aristeia wrote: kay how does your role work?
like are you paired to a player pregame and then on night two you learn they are town
or is it like on night two the mod rands an alive player and tells you they are town out of all the town players
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If you’re asking if it said which player I was going to get info on originally, it did not. If there was something going on behind the scenes to detail what info I was given, I was not aware of it.In post 2581, Aristeia wrote: kay how does your role work?
like are you paired to a player pregame and then on night two you learn they are town
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I just reread the rules and it says not to quote messages from mods…and I know it says I can paraphrase but I’m feeling uncomfortable about being questioned like this. Are you trying to get me to break the rules? I asked the mod the questions you asked me, no answer yet obviously but now I’m worried I’m making a mistake by giving the info? Sorry, I literally don’t know how this works.-
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Okay the answers I got were:In post 2586, Aristeia wrote: I'm not trying to get you to break the rules I'm trying to gauge how powerful your claimed role is and whether it can exist in this game.
You're allowed to paraphrase or relay moderator answers about your role as long as you do it in a way that doesn't prove that the moderator said something to you by like copying it word for word.
relaying simple yes or no answers doesn't apply because it's just yes or no and it doesn't actually prove anything.
The player I find out info about is predetermined before the game starts.
1. Yes, that would be a possibility if that was my predetermined player.
2. Mod can’t give me the answer to this question.
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Well I know it’s not PC, RN is cleared, psych seems cleared as vig with no counterclaim, so can’t be them. So it has to be 2 of the remaining 4. I’ve obviously felt good about Hu this entire game (especially day 1) so I’d feel hit with a ton of bricks if it were Hu. But it has to be narrowed down to Titus, gera, you and Hu because nothing else would fit. If you’re asking me which 2, my past scum reads had been Titus and gera. I thought I was wrong about Titus with the early claim but now with everyone else claimed, it seems very possible that was a lie. It always struck me a bit odd how adamant the vig shot claim was from Titus but I guess I assumed such an early claim had to be legit. Not sure I believe it anymore.
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The only thing I’m worried about is that I’ve trusted Hu this entire time, then she waited until everyone claimed to claim and now has drafted our “plan to win” and leaves out herself again. I’ve townread her from the beginning so it’s hard to think she’s just been masterfully lying this entire time. I know PC(from the info I received) and RN are definitely clear, and I also believe psyche is clear as vig, I can’t just be blind that there’s only 4 people left and 2 are bad. Of those 4, 3 are claiming non-vanilla roles. So there are 2 people lying. I’m not sure the usual setup for games in terms of how many roles, how many vanilla, etc. so I don’t know if Ari could also be lying or not either. I think today’s vote is pretty set and will probably be correct, but other than that, I’m just a little apprehensive about my past reads now that all these claims have happened.-
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This plan sounds fine to me. My role doesn’t do anything else anyway so as long as this is the best way to figure out who is what, I say we do it. Let me know when we’re voting.-
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Who would scum be shooting? RN? You?In post 2669, Hu Tao wrote: Is there a play where using Gera's doc shot and eliminating someone else would work out better?-
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I have a question, wouldn’t it make sense to not have 2 roles on me? Roleblock me but gun check Titus? Because if there’s a chance Titus is lying, do we get confirmed info about Titus? This has to assume gera is scum. Because how do we get confirmed info on Hu/Titus when they can just say “yeah I role blocked/gun checked” you, etc.-
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Yeah I’d definitely like to know their opinions, specifically RN just to make sure everything we are planning makes sense to him too. And if gera has input, I’ll be open to hearing it.In post 2700, Psyche wrote: does RN or gera have readss-
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I’d also prefer to continue when Titus is able to give her attention to the game. I feel like we’re at a very important and pivotal place in the game and I think we need to have everyone giving input and being present for discussion.In post 2704, Aristeia wrote:Titus if we wait for the next three days will you have time to actually play the game Monday or Tuesday?
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Same question as for Titus, will you be able to be around Mon/Tues?
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I’m cool with stew but like, what kind? Brunswick, Irish, lamb, gumbo? I need to know how we’re going to be stewing so I put the correct energy into it.In post 2718, Political Clout wrote: I'm fine with stewing too.-
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I mean, technically I’m going to be going in and out of being extremely busy at work until I fly home Monday morning so this stewing might also help me not miss anything during the rest of the weekend. But in my down time I’m over here like “ahhh nothing’s happening, I should join another game!”In post 2720, Political Clout wrote:
usually at this point I would go read their other games or something like that to get a better feel but for some reason sometimes I feel like it's cheating and not very fun and goes against the spirit of the game and other times I'm like yeah let's just see what's up. So a reading stew probably.In post 2719, KayJayQueue wrote:
I’m cool with stew but like, what kind? Brunswick, Irish, lamb, gumbo? I need to know how we’re going to be stewing so I put the correct energy into it.In post 2718, Political Clout wrote: I'm fine with stewing too.-
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Well I’m not fully gone just not as crack-head obsessed type posting like I usual am lol I’ve only been posting less here recently because the end game is kind of boggling my mind a bit but I’m trying my best to keep up.In post 2722, Political Clout wrote:
You should claim vla in bold on those days. I think I might go read hu taos games.-
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Wait so we’re not waiting for the two VLA? I guess I misunderstood what we were agreeing to earlier. Are we saying it’s not worth waiting?-
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I trust you all to know about the ins and outs of this but is there literally any possible way I’m given a “PC is aligned with the town” if he’s not actually town? I assumed it was a 100% confirmation.
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Okay, well I feel like whatever happened at night was done to set me up to be voted here based on all the plans that were made before the last vote. I don’t know what to believe because it’s down to two people. One who knows I’ve defended and believed them since pretty early on and the other who seems extremely against me, which I guess is to be expected when 3 people are cleared, but it still feels excessive. I know what I’m supposed to think here but am I being 4-D chessed? Is this reverse psychology? Is my only option here to vote Ari or am I just dying no matter what?-
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I honestly have no idea at this point if it’s Hu or Ari. I feel like I should have a better idea of who it is but I’m second guessing myself when I think about everything that’s happened in the game. Because they’ve both done things that I thought “clearly that’s a town thing to do” but maybe the issue here is that…do I really know what is and isn’t town? I think my inexperience is actually just hurting us. I think I’ll just do whatever RN, PC and psyche think is best. If that’s dying, so be it, I still think that we can win if they figure out which one it is.-
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How does my role make sense if I wasn’t town? I literally got told that one person was aligned with the town. Doesn’t mafia all already know each other so everyone else would be known to them as the town? Am I missing something here?In post 2979, Aristeia wrote: i think its kay because I think kay/gera both trueclaimed their roles.
kay should be informed mafia and gera is a doctor, they probably didn't know that they shouldn't have claimed their actual roles because they do not fit into this setup.-
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There’s no reason to doubt her when she firmly stated she would and then was shown to be telling the truth about her role.In post 3039, Random Nurse wrote:In post 3032, Political Clout wrote:
How do you 1. reconcile the fact that titus roleblocked kayIn post 3031, Hu Tao wrote:
I've literally said since yesterday that Ari and Gera were the 2 scum.In post 3030, Political Clout wrote:
well let's wait for psyche he might have another shot and we can plan around this. plus titus said they would roleblock kay that's why no night kill I assume. how does hu ignore all that. plus they are hard defending kay for an epic i told you so tomorrow. we should just wait a little.In post 3027, Random Nurse wrote: I think we just need to decide on either Kay or Hu today. Then launch the other.
VOTE: Kay
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I think the current explanation for anything and everything I have done or might do is simply: she’s new!In post 3038, Hu Tao wrote:
I don't ever see scum posting thisIn post 2502, KayJayQueue wrote: I just didn’t want to give all the info away before everyone else claimed because if there was a chance you and PC actually double claimed, I would’ve been able to my shining moment of this game
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If psyche has another shot, we win no matter what.In post 3059, Hu Tao wrote:
Okay then. This game is lost.In post 3056, Psyche wrote: I'm really surprised it's not obv at this point that Ari is town-
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I feel like there are reasons to think it’s either. Is Ari pushing me so hard because she’s town and just really believes it’s me, or is she scum and will do the same thing the next day to Hu?
Alternatively, is Hu town reading me so hard because she’s town and really believes me, or is she scum trying to make sure I stay on her side?
I’m leaning Ari because between these two scenarios, Ari has stated it had to be either me or Hu over and over whereas Hu is being very firm that it’s Ari, which would leave her open to being voted out tomorrow if she already knew Ari would flip town. Why not keep some sus on me when she knows I need to be voted out too? It doesn’t make as much sense to me because what will me being in her side do for her when I’m just one vote?
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I was up all night last night because my sleep schedule is off since coming home from work and I had to take a family member to the airport 4 hours ago. I just needed to get a couple hours sleep in. I wake up to like 4 more pages lol I’m here now and I got my sleep.In post 3201, Hu Tao wrote: Kay where did you go?-
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KayJayQueue She/HerMafia ScumShe/Her
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What do you mean?In post 3220, Political Clout wrote:
gotcha anything else?In post 3206, KayJayQueue wrote:
I was up all night last night because my sleep schedule is off since coming home from work and I had to take a family member to the airport 4 hours ago. I just needed to get a couple hours sleep in. I wake up to like 4 more pages lol I’m here now and I got my sleep.In post 3201, Hu Tao wrote: Kay where did you go?-
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In post 3227, Aristeia wrote:
i never self voted on any other day pls dont lieIn post 3218, Psyche wrote: i sort of expected an ari self-vote in the last page, though with less back-and-forth.
but in the end it's kind of consistent with the "this sucks! this sucks!" --> "i wash my hands" patterns of other days.
each of these have been quite believable imo. but next to kay, im forced to doubt my own eyes.-
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