Mini 1666: The Reds: Endgame


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Post Post #1400 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 3:31 am

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In post 1393, Titus wrote:
Stop with the shirty play and vote flailing scum.

Know what? You're right...

VOTE: Lapsa

If my math is right, that should be L-2

Lapsa wrote:
how's your weak and not necessarily with scum motivation diversion goin?

I'm not sure what you mean by this. I was asked a question, I answered it. Which is more than one can say for you.
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Post Post #1401 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 4:52 am

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Short on space and on time, so have a quickie.

Titus, if you have a guilty on Lapsa, tell us. He outed your most obvious crumb already; I'm sure the scumteam already knows what's up.
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Post Post #1402 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 5:05 am

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No. I have an innocent on Riabli and I was roleblocked n2.
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Post Post #1403 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 5:13 am

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Take the early vote counts with that info. Kbw now Shinobi looks bad as well due to some early wagons on town being all confirmed town but for Shinobi.
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Post Post #1404 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 6:36 am

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Terra, were there more?
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Post Post #1405 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 6:45 am

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Only one that explicitly was cop. I figured that there was a chance no one would look closely at the VCs until I was dead.
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Post Post #1406 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 7:06 am

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In post 1405, Titus wrote:Only one that explicitly was cop. I figured that there was a chance no one would look closely at the VCs until I was dead.


shit way to crumb

here's main problem:
cop claim just makes going for dragon lynch look even more stupid

i don't buy it
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Post Post #1407 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 7:12 am

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Cops and trackers are not usually on the same side. Dragon was being a little sketchy as well regarding his tracks.

Also, you seemed to be considering it when you said Riabli's actions might not be scum motivated.
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Post Post #1408 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 7:44 am

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In post 1407, Titus wrote:Cops and trackers are not usually on the same side.


that's another reason why your claim stinks

Victor had safe way to verify dragon's alignment and yet chose to go for lynch, risking to lose town tracker
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Post Post #1409 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 7:50 am

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No he didn't. Dragon was likely a target to be shot, thus checking him is a waste of a cop check.

You still ignored why you implies that Riabli might not have been scum motivated after my crumb but yet you are doubting the claim.
You have ignored why you never voted much during Day 2.

Your play seems to be to ignore and throw dirt back. I am going to retype everything you ignore until you answer it.
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Post Post #1410 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 7:59 am

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My god, I was scumreading the cop... my reads have been worthless this entire game.

UNVOTE: Titus

Back to the drawing board, it seems. Will try to get back with something resembling a useful post later.
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Post Post #1411 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 8:33 am

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In post 1409, Titus wrote:No he didn't. Dragon was likely a target to be shot, thus checking him is a waste of a cop check.


shot by who? vig soldier? so what?

checked dead scum tracker is better than dead town tracker

In post 1409, Titus wrote:
You still ignored why you implies that Riabli might not have been scum motivated after my crumb but yet you are doubting the claim.


that was my dislike for Riabi's analysis on #1384. if you are talking about #1394

In post 1409, Titus wrote:
You have ignored why you never voted much during Day 2.


VOTE: Lapsa
VOTE: Lapsa
VOTE: Lapsa
VOTE: Lapsa
VOTE: Lapsa
VOTE: Lapsa
VOTE: Lapsa
VOTE: Lapsa
VOTE: Lapsa

does that change anything? also, already answered how i voted after you accused me for total abundance:

In post 1382, Lapsa wrote:did not want to vote for claimed tracker and scumreads on zerediah/keyblade were weak if not null

expected town to stop pushing dragon, last 2 votes came in fairly suddenly


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In post 1409, Titus wrote:
Your play seems to be to ignore and throw dirt back.
I am going to retype everything you ignore until you answer it.


i support this idea
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Post Post #1412 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 8:51 am

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In post 1411, Lapsa wrote:
VOTE: Lapsa
VOTE: Lapsa
VOTE: Lapsa
VOTE: Lapsa
VOTE: Lapsa
VOTE: Lapsa
VOTE: Lapsa
VOTE: Lapsa
VOTE: Lapsa

Question for you... how is this not breaking the rules? If you truly are a VT like you claim, how is voting for yourself playing to win?
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Post Post #1413 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 8:57 am

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Votecount 3.03




Lapsa - 3 - Titus, Lapsa, Riabi
L-2

Prolapsed Brain - 2 - Terrador, Kitty Galore

Not Voting: Prolapsed Brain, Riabi, Kitty Galore, RandomActs, Shinobi

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
Deadline is 05JUN15, (expired on 2015-06-05 20:00:00).
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Post Post #1414 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 9:04 am

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In post 1412, Riabi wrote:Question for you... how is this not breaking the rules? If you truly are a VT like you claim, how is voting for yourself playing to win?


that protects me in short term - possible lylo tomorrow is good enough reason to make everyone reluctant to vote

took it because of this seemingly careless vote:

In post 1358, Titus wrote:F it.

VOTE: Lapsa

Let's do this.


does not pay off in long term since it takes one less vote to lynch me. so it's double edged sword

unvoting myself makes me hypocrite
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Post Post #1415 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 9:08 am

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So, if I understand you right, you're saying that you voted yourself because you hoped it would change Titus' mind about voting for you?
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Post Post #1416 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 9:10 am

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In post 1415, Riabi wrote:So, if I understand you right, you're saying that you voted yourself because you hoped it would change Titus' mind about voting for you?


no, that would be naive. but his vote on me just complements my reads

I'm fine taking sacrifice and going down if that's what it takes for me to be heard
afaik that's exactly what VT is supposed to do
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Post Post #1417 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 9:14 am

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@Lapsa, I haven't read but I doubt Dragon claimed tracker at the start of day 2.

Can you knock off the shit if you want me to actually consider anything and vote your scumreads?
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Post Post #1418 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 9:18 am

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In post 1417, Titus wrote:@Lapsa, I haven't read but I doubt Dragon claimed tracker at the start of day 2.

He did actually. His first post of the day was to vote for TheSoldier, then when I asked him why he said "because TheSoldier went to Monkey during the night, and now Monkey's dead" This was literally less than an hour after the thread was unlocked.
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Post Post #1419 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 9:19 am

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Then why isn't the Soldier Wagoned today?
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Post Post #1420 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 9:26 am

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In post 1419, Titus wrote:Then why isn't the Soldier Wagoned today?

You'll have to read the strange and confusing day if you want a full answer to that, but, what it comes down to is that TheSoldier claimed vig, and several of us believe him. For me, I find it silly that scum would kill MonkeyMan that night, when there was a LOT of suspicion around him at the end of D1 and he was a likely mis-lynch (or at least an early wagon) for D2. It makes a lot more sense to me that a vig would kill him than scum would kill him.
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Post Post #1421 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 9:34 am

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How likely is it that we have a cop, tracker and a vig plus a neighbor?
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Post Post #1422 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 9:35 am

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Plus where did Soldier's first shot go?
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Post Post #1423 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 9:36 am

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In post 1422, Titus wrote:Plus where did Soldier's first shot go?

His only shot went to Monkey, he claims he only had one bullet.
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Post Post #1424 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2015 9:39 am

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Most everyone around for daystart assumed I was vig, including your slot. I really can't say why everyone thought that tbh. I am in fact a one-shot vig, but how were they to know?

Obviously no way to prove this, but if I had been on for daystart I would have claimed the monkey kill first post, but I got there late. Whatever happened N1 made this game really really screwey. If there were two kills N1, would there have been any doubt that I'm a vig? Maybe some, but not as much as there is now I think.

Just feeling frustrated, mostly. Everyone I've felt is likely scum has been town. Just when things start to click in the hood Slandaar ends up dying. (Don't remember if anyone answered this for Titus, but the hood is me, Slandaar, and Kitty Galore)

Honestly if Lapsa is town then leaving us two alive for LYLO is the perfect scum plan, so maybe lynching me is the correct play anyway?! The alternative is lynching the scumteam without missing or Lapsa being scum himself. Considering my garbage reads this game, I don't trust myself to be figuring out the scumteam.

I need to recalibrate badly.

Pedit: I'm a one-shot Vig Neighbor, and shot Monkey N1 for reference.
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