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Talk to my lawyer.In post 1784, Dannflor wrote: i have done played mafia for 4 years for no reason other than the chance to play with mandate one more time
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welcome ydrasse! your slot claimed VT is that true?-
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Yes. >:)In post 1793, Lazy Shirou wrote:
is that aIn post 1786, Ydrasse wrote: using my page one intuition that is never wrong meuh is scumthough, dear Divine Ydrasse?divine mandate-
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i’ve read the first 10 or so pages
i think that keyleth, brown eyes and dannflor are towny. maybe sakura hana
i don’t like meuh that much, not getting a lot from shirou or ari either
(i’m not elaborating my thoughts because i don’t wanna waste too much time bogged down in old stuff but if something is relevant lmk)-
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actually i think freedoms intro is curious in a wolfy way because he arrives and asserts dunn as town alongside implo but then the focus is on implo and meuh. i can think of one reason why it wouldn’t be wolfy but @freedom why is dunn town? and why is my slot wolf?-
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yeah i can see alisae as wolf i think
i think that it’s a bizarre choice to make one post that explains your scumread in what i think is a tepid manner (“over explainy, technically fine but”) and then follow it up immediately with “but they were screaming wolf at me earlier” without that proof provided when it would be a more compelling case-
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aaaaare they
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they kind of got immediately bodied on this rep in-
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right now i’m meh about freedom, in between being bullish to being unvoted i made two posts. i’m not sure if it’s a real progression but i’m willing to give freedom a bit of time to figure out who they actually do suspect enough to vote-
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i think bingle has been fine on rep in as well. i’m rescinding my read on rn because it’s bland on retrospect (i think i’m biased myself a bit by reading mandate’s aristuff which is a lot meatier than my thoughts rn) and the two references to being town are a little ?-
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when do you think that you became townier? i didn’t get a good hold on you when i was catching up and it felt strange because from past experience you’re usually a… i don’t know if easy read is a good word honestly but i get more of a sense that you care about what’s happening?In post 2062, Lazy Shirou wrote: Also it's interesting to note how much my weak early game where I was just meming seems to influence people considering me even now that I'm substantially townier in my own judgement, once a consensus is achieved on something, it takes significant amount of effort to overtune it.
It's a phenomenon I had noticed before but never personally experienced as town-
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is freedom not a meh slot to you?In post 2406, Meuh wrote: I’ve been thinking about it and I think here more than in a regular game, we want more informative flips than just killing meh slots. Meh slots can just not be spared.-
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can you try to distinguish why
i value feeling based reads like that and im inclined to agree but i think it’s… worthwhile to try and translate that into in game posts or reasons-
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how so?In post 2413, Meuh wrote: I think having two people in the slot helps with distinguishing associatives
Freedom and Merlyn both feel rougher around the edges in a way that would always make me question their alignment, but that I think could be more informative on a flip than Alisae’s posting that I just find less evocative
if they’re easier to read, why would you want to flip them first when you’re currently at most meh on them?In post 2414, Meuh wrote: I also think RH9 (I know it’s an alt but some amount of meta can still be applied) and Merlyn are easier for me to read than Alisae
i ask because meh is a mild, imo, take on someone’s alignment and trying to flip them based off of that and this reasoning is confusing to me-
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okay so can you actually quote and explain like i’m five freedoms posts that you dislike you’ve referenced them already in your iso but it seemed like you were just gently pressing there, but then you’re saying that you thought merlyns posting was rough around the edges while saying you thought she was town while she was here and using her read on you to prop up your slot a bit
and now it feels like you’re trying to vote freedom without there really being a good reasoning behind it? i understand everyone’s struggling for scumreads but the justification for this vote is wrapped up in stuff that i feel isn’t really relevant.-
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like maybe what i’m trying to say is that you’re over explaining and i think it makes more sense to shear away a lot of it to focus more on alignments. maybe i don’t like this being boiled down into, fmpov, an info flip when i disagree we get much of what you’re saying we do from said flip. idk it just doesn’t feel real to me.
and i think it’s more bizarre to me because you’ve proven this game you can do a close reading of someone’s posts and make a coherent case but the last posts in your iso are way more… theoretical.-
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why didn’t meuh respond to the freedom stuff and go back to the implo well
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It’s easier
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okay well don’t ignore it even if it’s harder-
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troubled
i’m having a hard time discerning scum, i think meuh could be because her arguments lately haven’t been it for me but i don’t feel like there’s a lot to solve freedom off of. i think atp either of those two wagons are the best option but… meh. low confidence on alisae town rn.-
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idk if you’re town i’m really struggling i guess to find you. like even nitpicky things are jumping out to me (saying freedom was unfortunately townie) and nothing else feels worth switching to wagon for me-
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i don’t care about it lol
it’s a luxury to be able to say that-
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quick skim on sakura doesn’t really give me scum
like her not being as active at the end of day is maybe Bad but i believe the reasons she’s given and i think that if she was wolf she would exert her influence more than she has here, unless the entire town is just being horribly wrong at every turn
i might check this against the game where she swept up the game but from memory (lol) she feels more open here about her confusion and sheeping-
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In post 2605, Ydrasse wrote: kind of just want to vote random ari slot atp my brain is goop-
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i don’t think it was necessary yet
at least for me when i was still talking to meuh
idk like am i paranoid for seeing that on the same page where i’m considering a vote change and thinking it’s not good?-
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i don’t know if i would be comfortable with no room for error versus fight especially if scum gets to narrow the pool more
like especially after being wrong about someone already?-
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i also need to look at keyleth closer as well, a lot of that read is tonal and excitement but it’s fakeable i think and iirc key voted closer to where i expect wolves to-
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what a bizarre way to phrase this. use she pronouns for me please.In post 2696, Taly wrote: Beep boop
alisaehas spoken
VOTE: Ydrasse
HW for Ydrasse because they don't have Meuh to feel unafraid of votes now
1. What else did you want fromMeuhtalk?
2. If you had reservations onMeuhelimitation period, why prevented you from unvoting?
3. Who do you thinkDunnpartner is if you're considering that that slot is scum?
4.Keyopened D2 with minimal concrete reads except for on you - specifically to spare you, how do you process that?
5. Give me a take onShirouand two scoops of vanilla ice cream please.
1) we were talking about reads, the sakura thing was something that i valued because i worked through the slot more than i had previously, even if i wasn't agreeing w meuh
2) because i wasnt sure and my suggested option was an empty slot, alongside being slow to vote. i also don't really expect the doublevoter to go like "lol nah" and shut it down like that when we are waiting. for another person to show up.
3) no clue atm, i think my basis is clearly off for how i was viewing this game and i want to dive back in now that the game is a bit more lively. it sucks when its quiet
4) idk, ive already said i want to look at key closer because the reasons i had for her being town were tonal more than they were content related + i think it is a very easy read to make if youre going off of the earlier game state of mandate is town for most ppl (i also find it very curious that this wasn't cropping up more when mandate was -in- the slot, this kind of suspicion, but maybe there wasnt really a point/time to it earlier)
5) i dont feel strongly about shirou enough to give you a take and im not gonna make one up-
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like if im honest i feel less strongly about dunn maybe scum than i was a few hours ago because i was just very annoyed by it happening and i think the logic of killing someone because we will never spare them despite us not /entirely/ being locked into sparing is jarring. i guess because its the assumption of sparing? maybe im reading it too uncharitably and dunn was talking about the potential sparing world but it didnt feel like that to me and im afraid of a game where we go to the spare route and dunn is a wolf and suddenly the room for error is zero because it is a lot less fun to solve at that point-
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it's so weird that i replace mandate and now everyone's suddenly like oh... well maybe not town...
like in a frustrating way because this is me like ... trying my best to solve
and i feel like i am being seen as a lesser player lol-
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sorry that's just been cropping up in my head over the last few hours and after the flip i guess i feel more like. vulnerable. idk. wasteful? of someone's hard effort and seeing it from more than 1 person immediately eroded Me-
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hello
my wim is low. mostly because of the stuff talking about my previous slot person.
and i dont think anyones poes are really morphing here in a way that i can see. it felt like freedom was a reasonable candidate yesterday and well. here we are.-
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