Open 882: Over-Easy Mafia [Game Over]

[Flower]

VOTE: STD

That wasn't very geriatric of you

[Flower]

friends, what does geriatric even mean

geriatric
/ˌdʒɛrɪˈatrɪk/

adjective: geriatric

• relating to old people, especially with regard to their healthcare.
  "a geriatric hospital"
  
  
• decrepit; very old or outdated.
  "replacements for a geriatric locomotive fleet"

noun: geriatric; plural noun: geriatrics

• an old person who is receiving special care.
  "a rest home for geriatrics"
  
  
• a person who is old and incapable or outdated.
  "at the risk of sounding like a geriatric, this place was terribly dark"

Origin
1920s: from Greek gēras ‘old age’ + iatros ‘doctor’, on the pattern of paediatric .

[Flower]

Ok so what does geriatric mean

It means you like gerbils

[Flower]

VOTE: RCEnigma

[Flower]

VOTE: Merlyn

[Flower]

Pretty messed up that Merlyn would roll scum without us

[Flower]

Is anyone actually worried about the geriatric component

Last time we did a self imposed geriatric we gave up half way through, though this game doing 20 posts/day instead of the standard 10 posts/day might make it doable

[Flower]

Do you think it is affecting the activity so far though?

Can't speak for the rest of the playlist but we're actively avoiding doubleposting and limiting our postcount to keep a reserve of like 5-10 posts we can make at any given time and I'd imagine that every hyperposter who isn't the type to log on once or twice a day is doing the same

[Flower]

I'm not sure that it matters as much as I thought it might, the 'rolling aspect' basically means that you could be at the max limit, but then a few hours later have post powers again.

But I wanna post

now

not in a few hours

[Flower]

Crazy that yessiree rolled town with us

[Flower]

The “with us” component is bothering me. Feels like “yes is town, just like us”. Just the emphasis is eh.

VOTE: Flower

With us

[Flower]

Crazy how people still aren't voting Merlyn

[Flower]

Crazy that yessiree rolled town with us

The “with us” component is bothering me. Feels like “yes is town, just like us”. Just the emphasis is eh.

VOTE: Flower

Will say tho that as scum we perspective slip in the other direction instead with posts like

Like we can't simultaneously be good enough at mech to pick the perfect fakeclaim to make you look bad while also being bad enough at mech to very obviously soft a set of roles that loses us the game

and

@python loyal checker/combined detective psychologist seem reasonable to me? it's strange play tbf

That would mean we'd have to give out checks every night which would probably be an autoloss by that point?

[Flower]

STD being the top poster is also a pretty good case tbh

[Flower]

VOTE: Klazam

I wanna try here

And hi there too

Crazy that yessiree rolled town with us

The “with us” component is bothering me. Feels like “yes is town, just like us”. Just the emphasis is eh.

VOTE: Flower

am I paranoid in thinking the timing of your reply is a little sus

That looks like normal "Oh someone's voting us time to be productive" but I don't think that's scummy

[Flower]

It's not just the timing per se

If he thought my vote wasn't that serious I don't think he needed to address it right away since thread vibe wasn't that serious at all, and be like "oh time to be a little productive now".

If he thought it was serious I don't think he would've acknowledged it the way he did either

meh it's hard to explain

Ok yeah I can see the vibe there

VOTE: Klazam

yessiree just keeps being town it's crazy

[Flower]

Is anyone actually worried about the geriatric component

Last time we did a self imposed geriatric we gave up half way through, though this game doing 20 posts/day instead of the standard 10 posts/day might make it doable

Is it 20 a day or 20 in a day phase?

Also Ali, scrambled is the superior egg choice, they are still protected.

Normal geriatric rules are 10 posts/24 hours, this game is doing 20 posts/24 hours

[Flower]

Flower, I vote you, you vote me back. Sup?

That wasn't OMGUS

VOTE: Klazam

I wanna try here

And hi there too

Crazy that yessiree rolled town with us

The “with us” component is bothering me. Feels like “yes is town, just like us”. Just the emphasis is eh.

VOTE: Flower

am I paranoid in thinking the timing of your reply is a little sus

That looks like normal "Oh someone's voting us time to be productive" but I don't think that's scummy

It's not just the timing per se

If he thought my vote wasn't that serious I don't think he needed to address it right away since thread vibe wasn't that serious at all, and be like "oh time to be a little productive now".

If he thought it was serious I don't think he would've acknowledged it the way he did either

meh it's hard to explain

Ok yeah I can see the vibe there

VOTE: Klazam

[Flower]

Your calculator is defective, send it in for repairs

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STD being the top poster is also a pretty good case tbh

Are you saying a good case for scum or am I reading this wrong?

Yeah it's a scumcase

[Flower]

Good evening to only Drew!

I could see there being bussin' somewhere in yes, klazam, flower.

Help me bus klazam

[Flower]

Okay everyone has made three posts now. Calculating.

Calculating.

Calculating.

It's yessiree and Flower.

GG everyone.

VOTE: yessiree

Is this a "Flower and yessiree are both individually the scummiest" or is it "Flower/yessiree is the most reasonable solve"

[Flower]

Good evening to only Drew!

I could see there being bussin' somewhere in yes, klazam, flower.

Actually elaborate on this cause I can't see how you got to this position

[Flower]

mighty morbing power rangers
go go power rangers

VOTE: klazam

That's E-1

[Flower]

That would be pretty funny, have a post that brings the pagetop closer

[Flower]

Crazy that it took y'all this long to realise Merlyn is scum

VOTE: Merlyn

We only have 4 posts left before we start dipping into our reserves, this is hard

[Flower]

3 posts before we start dipping into our reserves

IM NOT READY!

VOTE: Alianna

Chances are since I rolled town Ali rolled scum. I hope not, but hope doesn’t scramble these eggs.

VOTE: rce I like the pun but not the reasoning

I don't see this as RVS, felt like a real vote to us. Hate the reasoning there but but then she goes from switched on enough to scumhunt to OMGUSing at

VOTE: RCEnigma

VOTE: Merlyn

VOTE: Flower

instead of doing anything with it? Like feels like the kind of thing you'd at least ask a question about?

[Flower]

Finally got more posts, lemme dump all the things we noted down during the wait

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i don't think flower is scum

y

What is even the case here?

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3 posts before we start dipping into our reserves

IM NOT READY!

VOTE: Alianna

Chances are since I rolled town Ali rolled scum. I hope not, but hope doesn’t scramble these eggs.

VOTE: rce I like the pun but not the reasoning

I don't see this as RVS, felt like a real vote to us. Hate the reasoning there but but then she goes from switched on enough to scumhunt to OMGUSing at

VOTE: RCEnigma

VOTE: Merlyn

VOTE: Flower

instead of doing anything with it? Like feels like the kind of thing you'd at least ask a question about?

I don't have any questions about anything you've posted. Both votes were real.

If both votes were real the RCE vote was really bad and I don't get why more people aren't pushing on that

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i don't think flower is scum

y

I like flowers posting

I don't think they do some of their posting as scum

Flowers(well technically more Python) is someone I am starting to townbin until they show scum to me, finally have some scum experience with them so at least have something to work with(yes I know you were traitor, but you were being obv scum the last day lol)

"You were obvscum when I mechanically knew you were SK (Ignore the sk!infinity paranoia)" lol

[Flower]

Klazam's vote on us makes us feel a little better about him given that the vibe we're getting from him is that scum!Klazam would pay enough attention to the game to know there's not enough support to force a Flower lim through given that RCE/yessiree/STD/Drew all townread us, especially when he already somewhat naturally got himself on the Merlyn wagon

VOTE: T-Bone

[Flower]

If both votes were real the RCE vote was really bad and I don't get why more people aren't pushing on that

It's okay, I ran it by the Committee for Whether Votes are Good or Bad, and it turns it out it was a good vote

how come you aren't pushing on it then? Why do you need others to do it?

Cause there's two mafia, T-Bone's been flying under the radar, and we can't vote for two people at the same time but sure we can talk. Why did you think a gamblers fallacy tier post like

IM NOT READY!

VOTE: Alianna

Chances are since I rolled town Ali rolled scum. I hope not, but hope doesn’t scramble these eggs.

was serious instead of RVS when you posted this?

VOTE: rce I like the pun but not the reasoning

[Flower]

how come you aren't pushing on it then? Why do you need others to do it?

Cause there's two mafia, T-Bone's been flying under the radar, and we can't vote for two people at the same time

Unless you're asking why we're not talking about it in which case 139 and 117 was when we actually explained the case cause we figured it was blatantly obvious, we've been holding this position since 32/34

[Flower]

Cause there's two mafia, T-Bone's been flying under the radar, and we can't vote for two people at the same time but sure we can talk. Why did you think a gamblers fallacy tier post like

IM NOT READY!

VOTE: Alianna

Chances are since I rolled town Ali rolled scum. I hope not, but hope doesn’t scramble these eggs.

was serious instead of RVS when you posted this?

VOTE: rce I like the pun but not the reasoning

I didn't actually care whether the reasoning was fallacious or not, I didn't like that there was reasoning in an RVS at all. The vibe is kind of studied and practiced to me. I think even a 'voting Alianna bc she gotta be scum sometime' would have bothered me less, it was the sort of shoehorning in the 'bc I'm town this game' part that made me frown

That makes more sense, you can leave the scumpool for now

[Flower]

Like we don't agree with that early RCE read but we can see where you're coming from

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What if the reason we have so many townreads is cause Alianna is afk scum

[Flower]

klazam's voting/unvoting thing seems townlike to me, I feel like scum would've stuck to the first vote and not be indecisive

Klazam never unvoted and both the wagons he was on were 3 people including him? T-Bone/Merlyn/Klazam on the Flower wagon and Flower/RCE/Klazam on the Merlyn wagon

[Flower]

How'd Klazam get in hammer range on page 4 and why was everyone just okay with it?

Flower, I vote you, you vote me back. Sup?

That wasn't OMGUS

VOTE: Klazam

I wanna try here

And hi there too

Crazy that yessiree rolled town with us

The “with us” component is bothering me. Feels like “yes is town, just like us”. Just the emphasis is eh.

VOTE: Flower

am I paranoid in thinking the timing of your reply is a little sus

That looks like normal "Oh someone's voting us time to be productive" but I don't think that's scummy

It's not just the timing per se

If he thought my vote wasn't that serious I don't think he needed to address it right away since thread vibe wasn't that serious at all, and be like "oh time to be a little productive now".

If he thought it was serious I don't think he would've acknowledged it the way he did either

meh it's hard to explain

Ok yeah I can see the vibe there

VOTE: Klazam

[Flower]

VOTE: Alianna

[Flower]

We can leave Alianna for tomorrow sure

VOTE: T-Bone

[Flower]

Anyway Flower kinda slipped all the way on page 2 that they talk with yessiree privately. I assume that means yessiree has the power role between them. As there are no neighbors, I can only come to one conclusion.

Quote it cause not only are you wrong but I can't find anything that'd make you think this either

[Flower]

T-Bone rolling scum is pretty wack

[Flower]

Like we respond to people when they show up but yessiree was pretty absent between us dropping a tr on him and him dropping the Klazam case, in contrast Merlyn and STD were there and we could have a dialog with them

[Flower]

If T-Bone flips scum the other's probably Klazam just from interactions

[Flower]

UNVOTE:

not feeling TBone scum anymore, TBone vs Drew feels like 2 townies bickering at each other

Feels more like T-Bones leaning into that more than anything, 0 town vibes from him

[Flower]

Alianna feels town. If T-Bones town scum's probably in a nothing slot like RCE

[Flower]

What constitutes a nothing slot? Besides not having clashed head to head with somebody?

Yeah a slot sitting on the sidelines and letting town implode

[Flower]

It's actually funny because I had thought that yessiree had dropped the PT tell on page 1 post 23 when he made a nonsequiter reference to Klaz's scum games or lack thereof. But the way Flower responds to yessiree and to everyone else they respond to upon their entrance is so different and also says "i have a PT" and it says to me "I have a PT with yessiree". Compare Flower's 25 a response to STD and their entrance, to 27 a response to yessiree. Then in 34 to Merlyn and again in 38 to STD. One of these things is not like the other. There is some get-to-know-you energy in Flower's responses to STD and Merlyn vs I-know-everything-about-you in response to yessiree. No, I'm not referencing to overall familiarity from other games. There is always this feeling out period that players need to do at the start of the game to see where they stand. Flower did not feel out yessiree at all like they did other players. That tells me they did it in their PT already. Flower goes on to feel out Klaz because they are meeting for the first time in this game on page 3. Then when Flower addresses yessiree again in 68 that's gone once again.

There's no sense in me quoting out of context so I will link to where I think it begins and you should read with my comments in mind.

viewtopic.php?p=13902327#p13902327

this seems wild

VOTE: RCEnigma

VOTE: StD

But maybe that makes klazam my partner actually… or that person could have been klazams partner.

speaking of perspective slips- why didn't you list the options where klazam turns out town?

Merlyn's scumposting again, also Alianna is obvtown

[Flower]

It's pretty interesting how all of our scumreads have strong T-Bone partner energy

[Flower]

In the meantime, there's someone in this game whose whole contribution has been one liners and song lyrics, and I guess we just don't care?

It's STD, it'd be weirder if he wasn't being useless

[Flower]

Merlyn would get points for a serious STD push in this gamestate though if it wasn't for her immediately dropping it to vote for us

[Flower]

I’ve been going back and forth on TBone/drew because there could be something there.

Wanna hammer T-Bone?

[Flower]

Also you called it a feel, I still don’t think the “bussing is happening” is a legit thing because the conclusions that you should have drawn, you didn’t.

Bone, honestly speaking, the issue is that you’re on the flower wagon. I don’t think that it’s likely that people will move off you to elim someone that you are voting.

I wasn't on the flower wagon when you unvoted.

The only other people that are on my wagon are RCE and flower. So yeah, flower is probably not going to move off my wagon to vote themselves. So I guess you just mean RCE? I don't really know that the game is going to revolve around his vote if that's what you mean?

We've been voting T-Bone for half the game, we're not on your wagon

[Flower]

Feeling slightly better about Merlyn after that dumbtell

[Flower]

Feeling slightly better about Merlyn after that dumbtell

nvm she included Klazam in that list like literally right after a VC, it's a list of people pushing her not voting her

[Flower]

That’s a misrep of the reason why I’m voting you

It’s a misrep of why everyone on the wagon is voting them. No worries.

This feels like a tell but idk if it's a towntell or a scumtell

[Flower]

That’s a misrep of the reason why I’m voting you

It’s a misrep of why everyone on the wagon is voting them. No worries.

This feels like a tell but idk if it's a towntell or a scumtell

In what way?

idk it's just got that flippant "Merlyn is 100% scum" feel

[Flower]

Scum say that as a way to set up their Day 2 where they blame the player that got mislimmed for being scummy and then go back to flipping those with strong partner energy anyway.

I suppose bad town say that sometimes but I'll give Flower a little more credit.

We don't need setup to get away with being wrong

[Flower]

Like Drew/Alianna/STD/yessiree/Merlyn can tell you all about the times we've been wrong and we're aware enough of our meta to lean into it as scum to get a free pass to control the game

[Flower]

I will hero solve D3 don't worry

Watch out, you're now the n2 nk

[Flower]

Merlyn has requested replacement.

[Flower]

Merlyn's probably town then?

[Flower]

Aureal solve the game for us

[Flower]

Aureal replaces Merlyn.

Aureal repping in is another reason to townread this slot.

Why are you saying this?

It's a joke, Aureal keeps rolling town

Gotta take away some points from Klazam for missing an obvious joke

[Flower]

T-Bone do you think Drew is town in a world where both of us are town?

[Flower]

Drew's been consistently making a lot of sense this game, I'm not used to this

[Flower]

T-Bone do you think Drew is town in a world where both of us are town?

Memes about hero solves aside my reads on players are mostly independent of one another with some caveats. I'm not preflipping anyone. Drew being town or not doesn't have anything to do with your alignment or vise versa, that's not how town reads work. You're only linked if one of you flips scum.

I'm asking cause the Drew/T-Bone fight isn't giving us TvT vibes but if you're willing to vouch for him we're fine with just townbinning him

[Flower]

I feel like we're doing too many partner solves, should probably just flip the scummiest and go from there

[Flower]

Drew's been consistently making a lot of sense this game, I'm not used to this

I'm gonna assume that this means you think Drew's post there made sense. Because it didn't, and that's been how you've acted this whole game.

Like really, what is this thought process of Drew's? Player replaces into game, sees their slot and another are the top wagons, reads some of game and comes up with different scumreads and figures the other wagon is town and so... A townie does what, exactly, here? Sit down to enjoy some tea and crumpets?

I don't think you're doing anything scummy it's just that Merlyn was pretty scummy and the instinct is to just give that a pass cause of the rep in

[Flower]

We're fine sheeping Alianna inside Klazam/Aureal/T-Bone rn

[Flower]

UNVOTE:

[Flower]

T-Bone do you think Drew is town in a world where both of us are town?

Memes about hero solves aside my reads on players are mostly independent of one another with some caveats. I'm not preflipping anyone. Drew being town or not doesn't have anything to do with your alignment or vise versa, that's not how town reads work. You're only linked if one of you flips scum.

I'm asking cause the Drew/T-Bone fight isn't giving us TvT vibes but if you're willing to vouch for him we're fine with just townbinning him

This feels like a question for someone else since you're voting for me. What?

If you're town and you think the Drew fight is TvT we're fine with sheeping your Drew read

If you're scum then solving the Drew fight as SvT is good enough for us and we can worry about it later if we're both still alive by endgame

[Flower]

What other wagons

Just do a funny and flashwagon

[Flower]

We're fine sheeping Alianna inside Klazam/Aureal/T-Bone rn

Why do you want to do that?

We think you're town and that there's probably scum in that list

[Flower]

What's the votecount I wanna vote Klazam

(If it's E-1 treat this as intent to hammer)

[Flower]

Cool thanks

VOTE: Klazam

Also we literally said we're sheeping Alianna before she even did anything so unless you wanna claim we're psychic

[Flower]

T-Bone do you think Drew is town in a world where both of us are town?

Memes about hero solves aside my reads on players are mostly independent of one another with some caveats. I'm not preflipping anyone. Drew being town or not doesn't have anything to do with your alignment or vise versa, that's not how town reads work. You're only linked if one of you flips scum.

I'm asking cause the Drew/T-Bone fight isn't giving us TvT vibes but if you're willing to vouch for him we're fine with just townbinning him

T-Bone can we get an answer on this btw?

[Flower]

thinks about Klazam not reading the deadline right
realizes maybe he isn't realizing there's an auto-updating timer function
because it maybe didn't exist last he played?
checks game history, sees last game was five years ago
realizes she even responded to a thread he posted in about coming back to playing

derps

fuck it we ball

VOTE: Flower

Aureal thinking there's a chance in hell a Flower wagon can go through instead of just staying on Klazam is wack in a good way

[Flower]

We're fine voting in Klazam/T-Bone rn

[Flower]

It'd be pretty funny if we flash wagon'd bone rn tbh

[Flower]

Can't say I'm impressed with Flower's play this game but I'm attributing it to the post limitations for now.

Our play's normally impressive? That's news to me. And yeah we're already hitting the post limit every time we finish a posting spree, can't do our thing with this ruleset

[Flower]

Rather not do Aureal today

[Flower]

People are actually following the wagon I started, for reasons that mostly aren't even explained, AND THAT MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE

The explanation is people saw your case and went "makes sense" and sheeped

[Flower]

And you just triple posted there, where two posts were one liners. That isn't telling me you feel super constricted by the limitations. I'm trying to snag multiple posts in my replies more often because of it, and I'm

not

a hyper poster, I just don't want to end up pushing that limit and not be able to do stuff if it's warranted. (Heck I don't even want to get close enough that I have to start counting to make sure I'm not screwing up.)

We split up posts like that cause having multiple people all crammed into one post feels really akward and unnatural. We can kinda do it if we're just quoting the notes PT like in 139 but we've pretty much just resigned ourselves to playing this game by dumping a bunch of posts and then ignoring it for 24 hours while we get more posts

I can usually find things I agree with you on or can see where you're coming from! Here it feels like you're just throwing out any ol' things, and they're ???? at best, and just downright opposite how I feel.

Most of our T-Bone read is tainted by OMGUS which is why we're sheeping our townreads in regards to whether to lim Bone or not, do we have common ground in Drew/Alianna/yessiree town?

[Flower]

Drew and STD, looks like T-Bone isn't happening today. Mind swapping to Klazam?

[Flower]

Drew and STD, looks like T-Bone isn't happening today. Mind swapping to Klazam?

You aren't the boss of me.

But I also don't like you as the lim......so by my on volition and mine and alone, I am my own man dammit!

But did a quick check, aren't they at E-1 right now?

Are you asking me to hammer? Did they claim?

They're at 3 votes right now

[Flower]

Eh I probably would compromise on you over klazam

Shame, we're town

[Flower]

Sometimes you gotta break a few townies to make a scum omelet

How about we skip breakfast and go straight to grilling scum

[Flower]

Sometimes you gotta break a few townies to make a scum omelet

Is this intent or nah?

[Flower]

Well I haven't voted you yet

Lame

Jailkeeper, get on the counterwagon

[Flower]

If Klazam claims a PR we're flashwagoning the bone

[Flower]

No.

And why it’s a terrible post in specific, I think it’s because it indicates they (flower) wouldn’t even question the claim if I made one, which points to an attitude that they don’t care about the actual wagon, just want a mislim.

Pedit Tbone- that would be fun

If you lie about a claim you'll get cc'd and 1f1'd so yeah I don't really care

Claim

[Flower]

Time to hero solve

[Flower]

Well I haven't voted you yet

Lame

Jailkeeper, get on the counterwagon

Oof.
Would it be worth claiming a jail target for if Klazam flips red and you die? Or does the possibility of 1-shot strongman just render that useless?

if klazam flips red we jail tbone

[Flower]

Well I haven't voted you yet

Lame

Jailkeeper, get on the counterwagon

Oof.
Would it be worth claiming a jail target for if Klazam flips red and you die? Or does the possibility of 1-shot strongman just render that useless?

if klazam flips red we jail tbone

At that point if game continues Drew might actually be scum

[Flower]

Wait nvm strongman in that case

We're pretty useless if the strongman is still alive