Open 882: Over-Easy Mafia [Game Over]

[Merlyn]

just went back and read pg 2, not seeing a slip

[T-Bone]

It's actually funny because I had thought that yessiree had dropped the PT tell on page 1 post 23 when he made a nonsequiter reference to Klaz's scum games or lack thereof. But the way Flower responds to yessiree and to everyone else they respond to upon their entrance is so different and also says "i have a PT" and it says to me "I have a PT with yessiree". Compare Flower's 25 a response to STD and their entrance, to 27 a response to yessiree. Then in 34 to Merlyn and again in 38 to STD. One of these things is not like the other. There is some get-to-know-you energy in Flower's responses to STD and Merlyn vs I-know-everything-about-you in response to yessiree. No, I'm not referencing to overall familiarity from other games. There is always this feeling out period that players need to do at the start of the game to see where they stand. Flower did not feel out yessiree at all like they did other players. That tells me they did it in their PT already. Flower goes on to feel out Klaz because they are meeting for the first time in this game on page 3. Then when Flower addresses yessiree again in 68 that's gone once again.

There's no sense in me quoting out of context so I will link to where I think it begins and you should read with my comments in mind.

viewtopic.php?p=13902327#p13902327

[T-Bone]

just went back and read pg 2, not seeing a slip

I didn't mean to imply that there was a post meant for the scum PT that made its way into this thread. I used the term slip to mean Flower slipped their perspective.

[Flower]

T-Bone rolling scum is pretty wack

[Flower]

Like we respond to people when they show up but yessiree was pretty absent between us dropping a tr on him and him dropping the Klazam case, in contrast Merlyn and STD were there and we could have a dialog with them

[Doctor Drew]

It's actually funny because I had thought that yessiree had dropped the PT tell on page 1 post 23 when he made a nonsequiter reference to Klaz's scum games or lack thereof. But the way Flower responds to yessiree and to everyone else they respond to upon their entrance is so different and also says "i have a PT" and it says to me "I have a PT with yessiree". Compare Flower's 25 a response to STD and their entrance, to 27 a response to yessiree. Then in 34 to Merlyn and again in 38 to STD. One of these things is not like the other. There is some get-to-know-you energy in Flower's responses to STD and Merlyn vs I-know-everything-about-you in response to yessiree. No, I'm not referencing to overall familiarity from other games. There is always this feeling out period that players need to do at the start of the game to see where they stand. Flower did not feel out yessiree at all like they did other players. That tells me they did it in their PT already. Flower goes on to feel out Klaz because they are meeting for the first time in this game on page 3. Then when Flower addresses yessiree again in 68 that's gone once again.

There's no sense in me quoting out of context so I will link to where I think it begins and you should read with my comments in mind.

viewtopic.php?p=13902327#p13902327

Reading this feels like a more detailed Drew post, but I can't grasp how many carts you put before all the horses here. Even breaking it down to who is the scum PR or not(not this post, but a previous one). And I also have no qualms about making Drew posts as scum, so

VOTE: T-Bone

[T-Bone]

Lol you just hammered good job.

[Doctor Drew]

Lol you just hammered good job.

Oh shit......did I?

[Doctor Drew]

Isn't that 4 votes?

[T-Bone]

Drew might be scum not yessiree. How exciting. Doesn't even engage with the post just says "oh I'm scum" and hammers. You all eliminate Drew/Flower/yessiree and thank me in the post game.

[Alianna]

Unofficial VC:

T-Bone (E-1): yessiree, Save The Dragons, Flower, Doctor Drew
Flower (E-2): Merlyn, T-Bone, Klazam
Merlyn (1): RCEnigma
RCEnigma (1): Alianna

[T-Bone]

Maybe it's 6 votes. You're only worried now because I said you hammered me?

[Merlyn]

lol wut

[Alianna]

Unofficial VC:

T-Bone (E-1): yessiree, Save The Dragons, Flower, Doctor Drew
Flower (E-2): Merlyn, T-Bone, Klazam
Merlyn (1): RCEnigma
RCEnigma (1): Alianna

I had to check for myself, 99% sure that is not actually hammer.
I'm not concerned by Drew's reaction there, personally.

[Merlyn]

I thought t bone was testing drew- t bone, are you saying that you actually thought you were hammered?

(deja vu)

[Doctor Drew]

Drew might be scum not yessiree. How exciting. Doesn't even engage with the post just says "oh I'm scum" and hammers. You all eliminate Drew/Flower/yessiree and thank me in the post game.

You act like I haven't been paying attention, and what to engage with? I read that post, and went through what you linked to and what you thought it meant. In addition to thinking the scum team would both vote you basically at the same time.

And yes, I did say 'Sometimes Enchant is just scum'(reference to a previous game with Flavor Leaf) when even thinking if this is too scummy to be scum, but trying to not overthink it.

I still think it is E-1 though(and I should have said that).

[Alianna]

Drew might be scum not yessiree. How exciting. Doesn't even engage with the post just says "oh I'm scum" and hammers. You all eliminate Drew/Flower/yessiree and thank me in the post game.

If this is a genuine post and not purely a reaction test, I don't see where you're getting the accusation of "didn't engage with the post."

[T-Bone]

I thought t bone was testing drew- t bone, are you saying that you actually thought you were hammered?

(deja vu)

Eh I was doing both. Couldn't remember if Alianna was also voting me or not. I thought I'd call him scum for lolhammering and see what would happen anyway.

[T-Bone]

Drew might be scum not yessiree. How exciting. Doesn't even engage with the post just says "oh I'm scum" and hammers. You all eliminate Drew/Flower/yessiree and thank me in the post game.

If this is a genuine post and not purely a reaction test, I don't see where you're getting the accusation of "didn't engage with the post."

Oh please. Saying "this is a drew post" is not engaging with the post. Okay, I understand why Drew might be pretending to have no reading comprehension. But you?

[Merlyn]

And yes, I did say 'Sometimes Enchant is just scum'(reference to a previous game with Flavor Leaf) when even thinking if this is too scummy to be scum, but trying to not overthink it.

What is this referring to, Drew?

[Merlyn]

Drew might be scum not yessiree. How exciting. Doesn't even engage with the post just says "oh I'm scum" and hammers. You all eliminate Drew/Flower/yessiree and thank me in the post game.

If this is a genuine post and not purely a reaction test, I don't see where you're getting the accusation of "didn't engage with the post."

Oh please. Saying "this is a drew post" is not engaging with the post. Okay, I understand why Drew might be pretending to have no reading comprehension. But you?

no need to get nasty, man

[T-Bone]

Real talk I'm not a fool and I am not expecting people to fall at my feet for a small case based on a small thing I think I see. I do expect maybe some good faith engagement from town though! I clearly laid out what I think and why I think it. So please explain to me how drew replying with "this is a drew post" is engagement, Alianna. Engage with me now.

[Doctor Drew]

Maybe it's 6 votes. You're only worried now because I said you hammered me?

More surprised, not worried......I mean I was saying I think you are scum before I voted, so.....

Also hey look, we are engaging now!

Pre Edit: Merlyn, when Flavor and I both had enchant as scum in Utopia. Then the next game we were in together(with Flavor I mean) and it came down to me and python/flower.....I(or maybe Flavor said it first?) to basically not overthink it and sometimes the scummiest person is just scum.

Pre Edit2: T-Bone, I feel like I need to explain for you what a 'Drew Post' is.

[Alianna]

Real talk I'm not a fool and I am not expecting people to fall at my feet for a small case based on a small thing I think I see. I do expect maybe some good faith engagement from town though! I clearly laid out what I think and why I think it. So please explain to me how drew replying with "this is a drew post" is engagement, Alianna. Engage with me now.

I'm pretty sure there was more there than, "this is a Drew post."

[T-Bone]

You don't. Listen, I too have used the "I do this as scum therefore you are scum" line too! It doesn't bother me. Though I pull that out when I'm scum trying to make something happen. Since you did it to slide me to e-1 I don't know how I feel about it. Probably on balance it's scummy but we'll see!