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. If town has not achieved its victory condition by that time, the mafia will automatically win. Deadline timer:
(expired on 2023-10-12 10:00:00)
Full disclaimer: I've played this setup before and I joined this game because I remember it being super goofy and not serious. More specifically I remember it having the possibility of lasting for forever.
Well, crap
To be honest, I have a plan. It's to let the other Townies lose this time. If I don't fall for a Mafia I'm happy enough and I assume the game won't last till the deadline? My previous game of this setup didn't even last 24h
In post 4, petapan wrote:
To be honest, I have a plan. It's to let the other Townies lose this time. If I don't fall for a Mafia I'm happy enough and I assume the game won't last till the deadline? My previous game of this setup didn't even last 24h
Ohh no..
Now everyone thinks I'm playing according to the Mafia win condition
Guess I screwed the game up already ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Only thing that comes to my mind is that Malakittens and Black are probably not both Mafia together, because otherwise even though Black not accepting might make him look towny; it's the opposite for Malakittens.
A second thought that comes to mind is the possibility of Klick trying to make Malakittens look good, but maybe there's some player meta knowledge with regards to Black to I'm unaware of?
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Post #52 (isolation #9) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 9:36 am
Postby Nuclear Gandhi »
In post 49, Klick wrote:
Another way of viewing it is, collectively, we have to find all but two town (or one town, if we mess up!). This setup is a lot more scumsided than it seems.
Another way of viewing it is, collectively, we have to find 1 wolf and agree to trust fall anyone but that 1 consensus.
it means merlyn has played a game with drew before so she is familiarized with how he plays. thus, she can make that read.
Familiar players can also play each other though.
It's impossible for us to know anyone's intentions; anything can be read from both angles - mafia and town alike.
What makes you certain that her intentions were towny? I guess you already townread her?
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Post #74 (isolation #15) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:01 am
Postby Nuclear Gandhi »
In post 67, Merlyn wrote:
I don't see the point in pretending like that, I think town can take accidently take a joke seriously just as much as scum can
Yes they can.
My point was, I don't think your stopping content creation at it's tracks was for the better.
In post 49, Klick wrote:
Another way of viewing it is, collectively, we have to find all but two town (or one town, if we mess up!). This setup is a lot more scumsided than it seems.
Another way of viewing it is, collectively, we have to find 1 wolf and agree to trust fall anyone but that 1 consensus.
Two hangups -
1. Finding one wolf is Actually Really Difficult
2. Even if we all find one wolf, it would have to be unanimous. If one townie has a townread on the consensus scumread, we have a problem.
That "2." is what I find so funny about this setup
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Post #77 (isolation #17) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:06 am
Postby Nuclear Gandhi »
In post 76, patchwork wrote:
wait, so are you saying that because i took merlyn's joke seriously im scum or what
Well, I was pointing out how your confidence in her intentions being towny was unordinary and felt a little like TMI.
Don't worry, pointing out one towny think there one wolfy thing here doesn't mean I'm calling people wolves and towns. Yet.
In post 67, Merlyn wrote:
I don't see the point in pretending like that, I think town can take accidently take a joke seriously just as much as scum can
Yes they can.
My point was, I don't think your stopping content creation at it's tracks was for the better.
Nothing is stopping you from continuing asking Patch stuff, keep creating content!
The only thing I stopped was something we both agree is not relevant to scum hunting so you should be fine
Yeah, true, I think I was looking forward to patchwork's reaction and then I saw your post and thought the reaction would be much weaker and I was frustrated with your post.
Honestly, I expected a more self serving post from you as response, but instead this response feels rather towny to me.
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Post #82 (isolation #19) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:22 am
Postby Nuclear Gandhi »
In post 79, Skygazer wrote:
wanted to note real quick that in theory we could use the trustfalls as personalized hammer tests (from the proposers POV). and then we can chain trustfalls if we reveal townies and know their proposees must be town
thats probably not the best idea but eh
This strategy feels like it'd be doomed to fail
"Hey, let me check if all my x amount of townreads are really all townies. Ohh snap, one of them wasn't and now the mafia are halfway through to victory!"
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Post #95 (isolation #20) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:35 am
Postby Nuclear Gandhi »
In post 84, Skygazer wrote:
I mean, at the very least we could use the strat on people we were gonna trustfall anyways, so we can conftown them but still keep them around a bit
If I was Mafia and someone "confirmed" me town by trusting me, I'd use it as a leverage to try and get a good towny out of the game with me so that it's easier for my ally
We better agree to not pile up trusts on "conftowns" just in case
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Post #99 (isolation #22) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:51 am
Postby Nuclear Gandhi »
Imagining we having consensus 2 townreads, I rather they stayed in the game till the end than go out early.
The closer to the end the harder to make the right choice - so I rather have consensus townies guiding my choices, or at least have someone to talked them out with that I trust.
In post 76, patchwork wrote:
wait, so are you saying that because i took merlyn's joke seriously im scum or what
Well, I was pointing out how your confidence in her intentions being towny was unordinary and felt a little like TMI.
Don't worry, pointing out one towny think there one wolfy thing here doesn't mean I'm calling people wolves and towns. Yet.
i literally never said it was towny i just said it wasn't pocketing in fact i think it's weird that YOU jumped to accuse her of pocketing
That post of mine, the one addressed to Drew, was mostly joking; with a hint of hope to get a weird reaction from someone.
In post 57, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:
Drew, Merlyn is trying to pocket you, trust me. You and me. We're both in this together!
Which I guess it succeeded in? Don't fret. As I said, all it was was me seeing a strange looking post and pointing out what I find strange about it. I'm not calling you Mafia.
In post 57, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:
Drew, Merlyn is trying to pocket you, trust me. You and me. We're both in this together!
homie... that is called a meta read
yeah uh i don't see it
You're quoting wrong post fwiw.
I didn't see nor understand that post either, which is why I said "sry I don't follow".
The post I was refering to was #63
Seriously though, I feel like you're making a too big deal out of a "this feels wrong" comment by me.
Bottom tier is null, screw having scumreads this game. No order within tiers.
I disagree with Nuclear on a couple of things, but they lean town. 65, for example, stuff like that is rarely actually a perspective slip, and 74, I really don't think correcting someone's misinterpretation of your joke post is a bad thing. Those are pretty reachy things to point out. It doesn't strike me as dishonest-scum-reachy though, especially in the beginning of the game. I also thought the follow-up in 77 and 81 was good.
I have to think some more on the mech stuff.
I swear "reachy" is an adjective I see thrown at me at least once every game.
I feel like I would benefit from looking into which alignments say that more often, but instinctively I feel like townies more often use it to call me dishonest or manipulative, whereas mafias tend to say more nice things about me. Your post is right in-between
Personally, I can't give any reads other than there's nobody I'd be willing to announce my trust to.
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Post #176 (isolation #29) » Fri Sep 22, 2023 3:50 am
Postby Nuclear Gandhi »
In post 162, Black wrote:
What can be taken away from this mala proposal? I think it suggests that either I'm town or we are scum together. Mala could be town or scum regardless of my alignment. I think scum is more likely to try and toss out a trust fall to something they think might accept, but it is mala we're talking about here so personality has to be considered
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Post #179 (isolation #31) » Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:00 am
Postby Nuclear Gandhi »
I feel like convincing others of your townyness, as mafia when you've the option to leave instead, in order to manipulate the game more in your favor would be such a hassle; I know I wouldn't.
If Mala exited with someone else and flipped green, I feel like I'd wager Black to be green.
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Post #182 (isolation #32) » Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:15 am
Postby Nuclear Gandhi »
In post 95, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:
If I was Mafia and someone "confirmed" me town by trusting me, I'd use it as a leverage to try and get a good towny out of the game with me so that it's easier for my ally
In post 179, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:
I feel like convincing others of your townyness, as mafia when you've the option to leave instead, in order to manipulate the game more in your favor would be such a hassle; I know I wouldn't.
I find it interesting how important to me is the distinction between the 2
In post 95, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:
If I was Mafia and someone "confirmed" me town by trusting me, I'd use it as a leverage to try and get a good towny out of the game with me so that it's easier for my ally
In post 179, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:
I feel like convincing others of your townyness, as mafia when you've the option to leave instead, in order to manipulate the game more in your favor would be such a hassle; I know I wouldn't.
I find it interesting how important to me is the distinction between the 2
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Post #190 (isolation #35) » Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:38 am
Postby Nuclear Gandhi »
In post 186, Black wrote:
"A player can only have one trust offer active at a given time. If a player makes a new offer of trust to someone else, their previous offer is automatically rescinded."
Ok, that's news to me.
The previous time I played this setup I lost the game by doing this:
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Post #436 (isolation #39) » Tue Sep 26, 2023 7:47 am
Postby Nuclear Gandhi »
So the person, who overreacted when I pointed out a small thing about them, flipped red.
I don't think it was anything much, but I feel like it was enough to not trust fall with them so quick tbh.
Blame the dead because they can't respond ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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Post #445 (isolation #42) » Tue Sep 26, 2023 1:25 pm
Postby Nuclear Gandhi »
Couldn't we just agree on 2 most scummy people to leave and trust fall everyone else?
Sky's ISO seems like the definition of "coasting". I haven't checked others' as I think I seen some measure of involvement from them.
2nd person, from my POV, would be yessiree. (it's not Drew. I think I seen multiple people call Alianna lock town, including yessiree. Which leaves it between yessiree and Merlyn, and my pick would be yessiree due Merlyn's involvement and my previous post of why RN slipped patch's mind)
At the very least, since especially idk people here, my best bet is the other Mafia to be between those 2.
