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It would take me more than 15 minutes to catch up.
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Whatcha mean?In post 101, Cook wrote: hope the other two show up soonWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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She seems to be trying to solve.In post 103, gob wrote: davesaz thoughts on light galanski?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I haven't seen her recently enough to know. In fact not sure if I've seen her before.In post 105, gob wrote: or is that within her scum range?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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One of these things is not like the others.In post 97, gob wrote:
yes thats what i meant basicallyIn post 96, Black wrote:
Do you think she's been scummy?In post 95, gob wrote: I don't reallly think Light has been towny.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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more like town lean, though very preliminaryIn post 111, gob wrote:
So a null read, yes?In post 108, davesaz wrote:
I haven't seen her recently enough to know. In fact not sure if I've seen her before.In post 105, gob wrote: or is that within her scum range?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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A mix of RVS+reaction to spam which I think is even more negative in a blitz game than it is in regular.In post 121, usesPython wrote:
Is this rvs or seriousIn post 65, davesaz wrote: It would take me more than 15 minutes to catch up.
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Mainly for blitz it's changing your pov to "4 days from deadline we're in trouble if wagons aren't up to 1/2 the lim number".In post 124, Ausuka wrote: Maybe I need to change my practices for blitz but I'm nearly in prod range and there's like nothing I would want to comment on in a normal game lol.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Being a negative thing doesn't necessarily mean it's an AI thing.In post 178, Save The Dragons wrote:
this is AI?In post 175, davesaz wrote:
A mix of RVS+reaction to spam which I think is even more negative in a blitz game than it is in regular.In post 121, usesPython wrote:
Is this rvs or seriousIn post 65, davesaz wrote: It would take me more than 15 minutes to catch up.
VOTE: Save The Dragons
I do think that some scum spampost to hide among the chaff. I don't know for this game.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Gob gave reasons for things
In complete fairness, Imighthave seen this before. I just have this image that this never happens, so it's worth noting.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I have seen enough of Ranger to give at least a town lean.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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UNVOTE:
STD is less devoid of content than my gut initially told me.
It's harder to yell at a green (two of them even) to ease up on the spam, but please give the old guy a break.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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heh, I switched to silver yesterday because reading the yellow-orange was impossible on sepiaIn post 345, usesPython wrote: pink and light green are absolutely cursed colors, so is trying to read white on mafSilverWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Not sure on python, but that's nothing new for meWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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In post 28, Naerys wrote: i think its Dann-python-Black
Why so much interest in naming 3 people so early?In post 361, Naerys wrote: Scum team might be ranger+light+pythonWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Any other reads, keeping in mind shorter deadlines?In post 369, Doctor Drew wrote:
Elaborate on why not.In post 368, gob wrote:
ElaborateIn post 365, Ausuka wrote: Tbh I think ranger/light/python is 3 town right now
Ftr, I do town read python.....but no real read so far on the other two.
So the more info the better
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Thanks for explaining how you see that type of interaction. I handle it that way as town once it bugs me enough.In post 398, Dannflor wrote: So they push back in a way that's basically like... proving their accuser wrong?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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My number one social rule is don't read into player statements about RL or V/LA. Life outside the game is not AI.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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In post 329, T-Bone wrote:
You clearly did not read their hero solve.In post 317, gob wrote: I’m wondering what Tbone thinks of Python and vice versa
As for what I think, I don't know. Nothing Python has said or done has really surprised me outside of Python not getting super defensive over silly stuff. That's different for sure, but not anything I have pinned down. Gut wants me to say town so we'll see.
Gob, any follow-up on this?In post 330, T-Bone wrote: 324 and 325 is literally the best thing they've done this game though so that's exciting.
Tone thoughts on Gob since?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Looks like my tablet doesn't think tbone is a wordWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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You seem to have already had a position on Python, but you're deferring to Dannflor's post instead of stating your own reasons all in one place.In post 468, gob wrote: I feel like Dannflors analysis said it wel enough. For me i have sorta ruled out a lot of others, but python consistently does moves that i feel are anti-town.
Thatcancome from town, but I'd still like to hear your own summary with some more specifics, if you're willing.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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In post 363, gob wrote:
wtf mindmeld with nairysIn post 361, Naerys wrote: Scum team might be ranger+light+pythonIn post 498, gob wrote:Nice. Ive found you towny btw idk why others havent. no offense but i think sometimes you can be lhf type
Strange how gob seems to TR Naerys but then suggests her as an alternative to voting him instead of suggesting a SR of his.In post 502, gob wrote: why vote me instead of naerys who is top wagon?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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c /early/ever/In post 537, Ausuka wrote: I don't expect dave to be super committal early
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I got what I wanted from the gob comments and vote.
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Hmm, confused. Why did gob think Naerys was a top wagon?
I don't usually pay attention to who I'm voting with. While I do see some of the things being said about Python, the current wagon isn't good company.
VOTE: T-Bone
This has apurposegiven the 28 hours on the clock. I'd actually prefer to see a Cook wagon, but there might not be enough time to swing that.
Preferred lim set: Cook, gob, T-Bone
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Think about why you dropped out of my never today list.In post 568, Dannflor wrote: ThinkingWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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In this game a certain kind of joke can also be role fishing. I have noticed 2 TR and 1 SL who might have gone fishing. That's somewhat troubling.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Can you elaborate on what you think spews?
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It has been quite a long time but this feels very much like what I remember for town Ranger.In post 604, Black wrote: Ranger is playing completely different than the game I played with her. I don't really think that means she's scum for a variety of reasons but that's the thought that came to my mind skimming some posts on the last page
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I felt like the spammy interlude was a diversion tactic. I haven't had time to go deep on diversion from what.In post 605, Black wrote: Also why is T-Bone scummy tl;dr. I feel like he has been mostly jokes but he's mostly flown under my radar so farWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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If any of my "not today" list is wrong, it's Ausuka. Didn't look as town on my re-read as I thought the first time through.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Drew's vote for gob felt pretty opportunistic. His iso shades gob a fair amount so it could be legit, but I'm not a big fan of the vote post itself or the posting about it after.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Someone was scolding the thread about going after LHF like Cook. While I agree in the general case that flipping low impact posters gives little info if they're town, it's also well-known that a decent percentage of low impact flip scum. If there were more time I'd really want to wagon Cook to see what falls out of that, but I doubt that has enough legs.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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In post 677, Doctor Drew wrote: Why are there multiple people lowkey(and not so lowkey) defending gob??
How did you get the impression I'm defending gob?In post 678, Doctor Drew wrote: Well, Dave and Dann specifically.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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That holds regardless of gob's alignment.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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What's your definition of immediately?In post 687, Doctor Drew wrote: You immediately attack my vote on Gob when I voted them
I voted gob after you, then switched to Python, didn't like that wagon given its composition and went to T-bone I think?
Some time later I decided to check if you had a position on gob before you voted.
I suppose it's plausible you might think of all that as a short time if you weren't here for it, but if you look at timestamps it was clearly not immediate, not to mention I even voted with you before rethinking...Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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starts to vote the blooper
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@mods it would be cool if the OP were updated with replacementsWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I have sleep, meeting, drive to work, more meetings before deadline.
Looking back, Black is very lacking in the things I'm used to seeing from her when she's town.
Willing to try that wagon and see what comes of it, given how long it will be before I can closely read again.
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Can you point to towny things that scum!Black can't do?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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to hammer or not to hammerWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Wasn't unnoticed. We have an hour and 45 to switch.In post 572, davesaz wrote: In this game a certain kind of joke can also be role fishing. I have noticed 2 TR and 1 SL who might have gone fishing. That's somewhat troubling.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I presume you can quote?In post 1066, Dannflor wrote: python very clearly claimed not masonWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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The only reasonable alternative to it being a real mason claim is Ranger assuming she'll be NK'd anyway and having areallystrong town read on Python.
I suppose it's possible Scum!Ranger could do it to try to force masons to out to counter, but she'd be trading ID on the masons to a certain lim in a future day.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I set a timer for about 15 min before deadline.In post 1115, Naerys wrote: why dave didnt hammer yet? susWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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you don't look like PsycheWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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If this flips mason I'm looking at Dann btwWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I realized too late that Dann's reaction meant something. If it had sunk in right away I would have just shut it down with a hammer.
At least we got the scum flip.
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Can you remember why you changed your mind here?
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I'm pretty sure both T-Bone and gob had been to 5 before usesPython became a real wagon.
The "who would vote for gob" might just be the people who had voted for gob to make it 5, gotta fix a bug in my program and check that again.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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In post 1285, Naerys wrote:
Ye i think we should keep limming in those python spew as those who would vote gob untill bye scumIn post 1258, humaneatingmonkey wrote: Tinfoil hat:
If gob is town, then Python must really thought deepdown that he's telling the truth in #836 - as he could have done things differently if he thought he had the chance of pushing for a gob elimination.
Python's list of people who would go for Gob
- light/Black/Ranger/Python/Drew/Dave
Python's list of people who wouldn't vote for Gob
- gob/Naerys/Dann/HEM/STD/T-Bone/JV
Then everyone in the list of people who wouldn't vote for Gob is just town, and Python slipped.
Not paying attention to your own TR and SR, and following a list that scum made, is a recipe for disaster.In post 1286, JacksonVirgo wrote:
What would your preferred lim order be in that list?In post 1285, Naerys wrote: Ye i think we should keep limming in those python spew as those who would vote gob untill bye scum
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That's funny, the posts that I saw and referred to seemed to be you calling the masonry Naerys, Python, and yourself.In post 1252, Ranger wrote: I caught signs you and usesPython were masons distancing with each other. I thought the masonry was you two and Ausuka, initially. While I later had my doubts, I thought the interaction remained distancing regardless.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Maybe not scumpoints for JV, I might be misinterpreting the question in the 2nd post as agreement when it's meant to be something else.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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No, we're not going to take any list that Python posted and just blindly run down it.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Post numbers are off by 1 and I can't figure out why my Python program is wrong. (yes, I'm a programmer and I use Python, it's quite the coincidence lol)
502 light_ganski vote gob 1 was Naerys 2
507 Doctor Drew vote gob 2 was Save The Dragons 0
518 davesaz vote gob 3
520 Black vote gob 4 was Naerys 1
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The output had a bug, and the "was" numbers were off by 1.
502 light_ganski vote gob 1 was Naerys 3
507 Doctor Drew vote gob 2 was Save The Dragons 1
518 davesaz vote gob 3
520 Black vote gob 4 was Naerys 2
524 Ranger vote gob 5 was Dannflor 2
pedit, yeah starting at 0, technically (pagenum-1)*25Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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What if Python tried to swing the vote to a buddy who they knew wouldn't have enough support to lim? Or for the distancing value?
I don't think that's likely, but when doing detective type work it's important to not prematurely rule out things.
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We've been talking about the who would/wouldn't vote for gob list.In post 1311, JacksonVirgo wrote: Who would that be in this circumstance, Black?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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My light_ganski read dropped through the day btw. I noticed some things that didn't seem consistent or a good progression, but focus was elsewhere and with limited minutes didn't bother to post anything. This is partly a note to myself so that it's not lost in dreamland.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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